XSF Discussion - 2018-10-29

Ge0rG, you still need that ibr-detection-script?

jonas’: it'd be great to run my old xmpp.net list against that, to remove invalid/dead servers from the yaxim list

I'm pretty sure I don't need 100% Conversations Compliance.

Ge0rG, https://paste.debian.net/hidden/aa6f149c/

returns 0 if offered, 1 if not offered, 2 on error

also prints something to stdout if offered

(and nothing if not offered)

takes only one argument, use with xargs to batch-process a long list

jonas’: awesome, thanks!

e.g. cat list_of_old_domains | xargs -n1 -P8 -- check_register.py | sed -r 's/^(\S+)\s.+$/\1/ > new_list_of_domains

jonas’: running it from the aioxmpp git directory isn't sufficient for it to find the aioxmpp library?

ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'aioxmpp' :(

it should be sufficient

fire up a python interpreter and try to import aioxmpp from where you are

ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'pytz'

this I can fix

probably that then

The moment when you realize that you can't determine whether a MUC is non-anonymous, because your MUCUser object can only remember one status value.

<3

jonas’: that rabbit hole is deeeeeeeep... `ImportError: cannot import name 'opentype'`

work around it by firing a disco#info whenever you get status updates!!k

Ge0rG, zeheck?

from pyasn1.type import opentype

different opentype probably

install pyasn1 from repositories and uninstall what you installed via pip

apt install python3-pyasn1{,-modules}

jonas’: I have the apt versions installed

make sure you don’t have pip versions installed, too

python3 -c 'import pyasn1; print(pyasn1.__path__)'

Le Sigh. I had it installed as user, not as root.

wait a month or two until you can apt install python3-aioxmpp/unstable ;-)

or just give me the list

I'm almost there! ...I hope...

ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'aioopenssl'

pip for now, upload to debian is still pending

of the 116 domains on my old list, only 37 do IBR according to the script

no warranties something something

shall I rerun and diff?

I would be extremely surprised if it was non-deterministic

Ge0rG, would be interesting how many domains would allow trivial account creation (no-captcha, etc.)

flow: indeed. I'd need to filter for that anyway because yaxim only supports trivial account creation

I wish we had an easy mechanism to populate a data form into Android widgets.

can’t be that hard

You could do awesome things with that, like in-MUC polls etc.

interactive bot UIs

or even interactive text games.

Isn't it a massive mistake for this example not to include publish-options? https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0223.html#example-3

MattJ: well, the next example shows that, no?

It does, but isn't the whole point of that XEP to encourage, or rather enforce, the use of publish-options?

Safest to assume that someone is going to look at only that example and make all the wrong assumptions based on it

iirc some clients were found to be leaking bookmarks by not including publish-options

I see your point; pull requests welcome.

I just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something obvious

You're not! :-)

I just opened the XEP to copy/paste an example publish with publish-options, and that was the first example I looked at :)

I can't remember why we wrote it that way, but adjusting it as you recommend seems like a good idea.

Ok, I'll add it to my todo

Thanks.

MattJ [19:20]: > Ok, I'll add it to my todo That is kind of a no-op for the next year, right?

Depends on the priority :)

I've got a bunch of to-do items on various XEPs... 😣

peter, talking about your todo, how’s the cleansing of conference.jabber.org coming along? :)

jonas’: replied via email

nice thanks

its weird indeed, if i read that example i expect that afterwards is described why this is NOT a good idea

for example because the autocreate feature assumes server defaults and these do not fit the usecase

but instead it just says nothing about it, like it is intended to be one step in the workflow