XSF Discussion - 2018-10-29


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  177. jonas’ Ge0rG, you still need that ibr-detection-script?
  178. Ge0rG jonas’: it'd be great to run my old xmpp.net list against that, to remove invalid/dead servers from the yaxim list
  179. Ge0rG I'm pretty sure I don't need 100% Conversations Compliance.
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  183. jonas’ Ge0rG, https://paste.debian.net/hidden/aa6f149c/
  184. jonas’ returns 0 if offered, 1 if not offered, 2 on error
  185. jonas’ also prints something to stdout if offered
  186. jonas’ (and nothing if not offered)
  187. jonas’ takes only one argument, use with xargs to batch-process a long list
  188. Ge0rG jonas’: awesome, thanks!
  189. jonas’ e.g. cat list_of_old_domains | xargs -n1 -P8 -- check_register.py | sed -r 's/^(\S+)\s.+$/\1/ > new_list_of_domains
  190. Ge0rG jonas’: running it from the aioxmpp git directory isn't sufficient for it to find the aioxmpp library?
  191. Ge0rG ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'aioxmpp' :(
  192. jonas’ it should be sufficient
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  194. jonas’ fire up a python interpreter and try to import aioxmpp from where you are
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  196. Ge0rG ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'pytz'
  197. Ge0rG this I can fix
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  199. jonas’ probably that then
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  208. Ge0rG The moment when you realize that you can't determine whether a MUC is non-anonymous, because your MUCUser object can only remember one status value.
  209. edhelas <3
  210. Ge0rG jonas’: that rabbit hole is deeeeeeeep... `ImportError: cannot import name 'opentype'`
  211. jonas’ work around it by firing a disco#info whenever you get status updates!!k
  212. jonas’ Ge0rG, zeheck?
  213. Ge0rG from pyasn1.type import opentype
  214. jonas’ different opentype probably
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  216. jonas’ install pyasn1 from repositories and uninstall what you installed via pip
  217. jonas’ apt install python3-pyasn1{,-modules}
  218. Ge0rG jonas’: I have the apt versions installed
  219. jonas’ make sure you don’t have pip versions installed, too
  220. jonas’ python3 -c 'import pyasn1; print(pyasn1.__path__)'
  221. Ge0rG Le Sigh. I had it installed as user, not as root.
  222. jonas’ wait a month or two until you can apt install python3-aioxmpp/unstable ;-)
  223. jonas’ or just give me the list
  224. Ge0rG I'm almost there! ...I hope...
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  226. Ge0rG ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'aioopenssl'
  227. jonas’ pip for now, upload to debian is still pending
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  243. Ge0rG of the 116 domains on my old list, only 37 do IBR according to the script
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  245. jonas’ no warranties something something
  246. Ge0rG shall I rerun and diff?
  247. jonas’ I would be extremely surprised if it was non-deterministic
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  250. flow Ge0rG, would be interesting how many domains would allow trivial account creation (no-captcha, etc.)
  251. Ge0rG flow: indeed. I'd need to filter for that anyway because yaxim only supports trivial account creation
  252. Ge0rG I wish we had an easy mechanism to populate a data form into Android widgets.
  253. jonas’ can’t be that hard
  254. Ge0rG You could do awesome things with that, like in-MUC polls etc.
  255. Ge0rG interactive bot UIs
  256. Ge0rG or even interactive text games.
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  507. MattJ Isn't it a massive mistake for this example not to include publish-options? https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0223.html#example-3
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  510. peter MattJ: well, the next example shows that, no?
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  512. MattJ It does, but isn't the whole point of that XEP to encourage, or rather enforce, the use of publish-options?
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  514. Zash Safest to assume that someone is going to look at only that example and make all the wrong assumptions based on it
  515. MattJ iirc some clients were found to be leaking bookmarks by not including publish-options
  516. peter I see your point; pull requests welcome.
  517. MattJ I just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something obvious
  518. peter You're not! :-)
  519. MattJ I just opened the XEP to copy/paste an example publish with publish-options, and that was the first example I looked at :)
  520. peter I can't remember why we wrote it that way, but adjusting it as you recommend seems like a good idea.
  521. MattJ Ok, I'll add it to my todo
  522. peter Thanks.
  523. peter tries not to think about his todo list ;-)
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  530. Ge0rG MattJ [19:20]: > Ok, I'll add it to my todo That is kind of a no-op for the next year, right?
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  539. MattJ Depends on the priority :)
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  558. Ge0rG I've got a bunch of to-do items on various XEPs... 😣
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  568. jonas’ peter, talking about your todo, how’s the cleansing of conference.jabber.org coming along? :)
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  583. peter jonas’: replied via email
  584. jonas’ nice thanks
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  596. lovetox its weird indeed, if i read that example i expect that afterwards is described why this is NOT a good idea
  597. lovetox for example because the autocreate feature assumes server defaults and these do not fit the usecase
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  599. lovetox but instead it just says nothing about it, like it is intended to be one step in the workflow
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