Saturday, November 10, 2018
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XSF Discussion | Logs: http://logs.xmpp.org/xsf/ | Agenda https://trello.com/b/Dn6IQOu0/board-meetings

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[04:25:08] <Andrew Nenakhov> Rss works quite ok for me. Feedly is nice.
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[06:14:21] <daniel> moparisthebest: the xmpp record (not xmpps) mentioned here that points to 443 only works when using sslh not the ngnix setup. That should be mentioned. https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Tech_pages/XEP-0368#DNS_setup
[06:15:00] <moparisthebest> Ah yea that's right
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[20:50:57] <Ge0rG> Is there a standard(s mail) about the registration redirection URL used by Conversations?
[20:53:44] <Zash> Ge0rG: https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0077.html#redirect ?
[20:53:59] <Ge0rG> Zash: awesome!
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[22:53:05] <Zash> Ge0rG: Having messages in MAM that document a move does seem very sensible. I just remembered that Mercurial records moved files with some metadata in the first entry of the new file log.
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[22:54:41] <Ge0rG> Zash: https://op-co.de/tmp/xep-0283.html#message
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[23:12:59] <Zash> Ge0rG: Yes, I'm saying that's good and that other people did something similar, so it can't be a completely crazy thing to do.
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[23:20:13] <Ge0rG> Zash: except that most implementations won't keep the record longer than 14 days or so
[23:25:30] <Zash> Ge0rG: Is that a big problem?
[23:25:44] <Ge0rG> Zash: I don't know
[23:26:08] <Zash> I guess we need MattJs device tracking stuff to know for sure
[23:26:30] <Ge0rG> Your less often used client will just see that a contact vanished, without the link to the new contact
[23:26:49] <Zash> Do normal people do that?
[23:27:02] <Zash> For vacation maybe?
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[23:28:24] <Zash> Some sort of roster metadata maybe
[23:29:13] <Zash> People don't switch accounts all that often, but is this because it's currently somewhat tricky or because .. reasons?
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[23:31:57] <Zash> Stable identifiers are generally good
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[23:56:17] <Ge0rG> It's not "somewhat tricky", it's a huge effort and nuisance to your contacts
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