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XSF Discussion | Logs: http://logs.xmpp.org/xsf/ | Agenda https://trello.com/b/Dn6IQOu0/board-meetings

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[14:21:35] <nyco> Oooops, hey hi board, I'm sorry, I can't be present at our meeting, I am at the POSS event (Paris Open Source Summit)
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[14:21:56] <MattJ> np, thanks :)
[14:21:57] <ralphm> nyco: noted. Having fun?
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[14:30:13] <ralphm> 0. Welcome + Agenda
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[14:30:20] <ralphm> Hi! Who do we have?
[14:30:28] <ralphm> Regrets from nyco.
[14:30:30] <MattJ> I'm here
[14:30:35] <Seve> I'm here
[14:30:50] <ralphm> Guus, dwd around?
[14:30:57] <MattJ> Guus sent an active chat state
[14:31:04] <Guus> pff 🙂
[14:31:10] <Seve> You cannot hide!
[14:31:12] <Guus> there's no hiding 🙂
[14:31:20] <MattJ> ;)
[14:31:38] <ralphm> Besdies the trello items, anything to add to the agenda?
[14:31:48] <MattJ> Nothing from me
[14:31:55] <Guus> nope
[14:32:06] <Seve> No
[14:32:12] <ralphm> 1. Note taker
[14:32:28] <ralphm> I was hoping dwd was around. If not, I need one volunteer.
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[14:33:17] <ralphm> :crickets:
[14:33:22] <Seve> You mentioned it was better if we had somebody outside from board, was it?
[14:33:43] <ralphm> Better, not required.
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[14:35:14] <ralphm> Moving on, assuming someone will write them eventually.
[14:35:19] <Seve> I have no experience writing notes, I would prefer and appreciate if somebody else could do it :)
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[14:35:23] <Seve> Yes
[14:35:26] <MattJ> Ok, if we can't find a consistent note taker, maybe we should rotate between outselves
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[14:35:35] <MattJ> *ourselves
[14:35:51] <MattJ> For the occasions where nobody else volunteers
[14:36:02] <MattJ> I have a bad habit of saying yes, and then not delivering
[14:36:06] <Seve> Sounds fair
[14:36:14] <ralphm> 2. PR 719, XEP-0001 proposed->experimental transition.
[14:36:55] <ralphm> So this was carried over from the previous term, mostly because Guus didn't yet vote. I'm restarting this vote. Comments?
[14:36:57] <ralphm> I'm +1
[14:37:07] <ralphm> (https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/719)
[14:37:49] <Guus> Again, I'd like to ping Peter about this, to rule out that this was intentional. I won't block though.
[14:38:38] <MattJ> I'm also +1
[14:39:11] <Seve> I couldn't find the reason behind this as well, Guus
[14:39:34] <ralphm> Seve: for not having it?
[14:39:41] <Seve> I would say +1 though
[14:39:49] <Guus> Nor do I, just wanted to dot i's, crossing t's.
[14:40:06] <MattJ> In my opinion it was an oversight, but I'm not opposed to asking Peter
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[14:40:23] <Guus> I think it passed, right?
[14:40:34] <Guus> so no point in hashing it out further 🙂
[14:40:37] <ralphm> It did, but I'll ask Peter on the ticket.
[14:40:52] <jonas’> I can see that it was intentionally omitted on the assumption that LC would only be called on a standard which either is accepted or rejected altogether, i.e. that people fix stuff spotted in LC (out of fear of rejection and out of motivation)
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[14:40:55] <ralphm> (while relaying the vote)
[14:40:56] <jonas’> instead of lingering around
[14:41:02] <jonas’> but that’s clearly not the truth (at least not at the moment)
[14:41:12] <ralphm> jonas’: right
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[14:44:30] <ralphm> 3. Give jonas’ access to Board Trello
[14:44:35] <ralphm> This should be completed now.
[14:44:41] <ralphm> Please verify.
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[14:45:12] <Guus> (while at it - does Seve have access now too?)
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[14:46:02] <ralphm> Seve: what's your handle?
[14:46:04] <Seve> No, I was writing about that :)
[14:46:29] <Guus> (while at it - maybe prune some old, inactive members?)
[14:46:31] <Seve> @severinoferrer
[14:46:42] <ralphm> Invited
[14:46:52] <Seve> That was fast, thank you ralphm
[14:47:06] <ralphm> Guus: well, those are members of the team, I'm not sure if there's anyone to prune but maybe Laura
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[14:47:57] <Guus> not a big deal either way.
[14:48:00] <Guus> let's move on
[14:48:10] <ralphm> 4. Appointment of Officers
[14:48:32] <ralphm> I have not yet received a reply to my e-mail of last week, and sent out a reminder just before this meeting.
[14:48:37] <ralphm> 5. GSoC
[14:48:53] <ralphm> Did we sent out a request for help on this yet?
[14:48:59] <Guus> not me.
[14:49:18] <Guus> Haven't seen anything via mail either (But might have missed it)
[14:49:42] <ralphm> I forget who was going to.
[14:50:24] <Guus> me too, but I can do it
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[14:50:47] <ralphm> Thanks
[14:51:20] <ralphm> Added a card
[14:51:30] <ralphm> 6. Summit / FOSDEM
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[14:51:43] <Guus> No news, sadly.
[14:51:49] <Guus> I need to reserve more time for that.
[14:51:55] <ralphm> I'm not sure if it was mentioned in a Board meeting, but we've once again secured a stand.
[14:51:57] <Guus> (scam-hat on)
[14:52:10] <ralphm> I mean *Lounge*.
[14:52:21] <ralphm> So yay.
[14:52:37] <ralphm> 7. AOB
[14:52:39] <ralphm> ?
[14:53:02] <Guus> Seve, could you do a PR to update board membership roles in our member list on the website?
[14:53:08] <Seve> Sure :)
[14:53:23] <Guus> mainly: add yourself, remove Martin as a board member 🙂
[14:53:34] <Seve> Ah no, wait, that was already done.
[14:53:38] <Guus> I think one was done not to long ago for Council (which triggered me)
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[14:53:49] <Seve> Guus, you accepted the PR :)
[14:54:22] <ralphm> haha
[14:54:23] <Guus> We need more changes
[14:54:27] <Guus> https://xmpp.org/about/xsf/members <-- for this
[14:54:58] <Seve> Ah, right. Sure Guus :)
[14:55:04] <Seve> Right after this meeting
[14:55:06] <Guus> similar to this: https://github.com/xsf/xmpp.org/pull/487
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[14:55:42] <Guus> (That's it for me, AOB wise)
[14:55:47] <ralphm> Good.
[14:55:50] <MattJ> Also I pinged iteam about Seve's email - it looks like atlas is on a spam blacklist that Seve's provider is using
[14:56:00] <ralphm> MattJ: Thanks!
[14:56:25] <ralphm> 8. Date of Next
[14:56:25] <Guus> Speaking of iteam: any news on xmpp.net?
[14:56:28] <MattJ> So the next step is to apply for it to be removed, I'll make sure that happens
[14:56:35] <MattJ> Guus, not yet
[14:56:40] <ralphm> Guus: is xmpp.net an XSF effort?
[14:57:15] <Guus> iteam manages the server-side of things, not the software.
[14:57:31] <Guus> so, partially?
[14:58:02] <ralphm> 8. Date of Next
[14:58:05] <ralphm> +1W
[14:58:19] <ralphm> 9. Close
[14:58:28] <Guus> Thanks!
[14:58:28] <ralphm> KTXBYE!
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[14:58:55] <Seve> Thank you!
[14:59:27] <ralphm> Since I updated Trello, I expect someone else putting minutes in my Inbox soonish :-D
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[15:02:33] <jonas’> ( ralphm, yes I have the ability to add cards on the board trelloo now )
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[15:10:46] <Seve> I will try to write the minutes, I will send them when they are ready (can't promise today)
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[15:20:06] <MattJ> Thanks Seve!
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