Monday, December 10, 2018
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XSF Discussion | Logs: http://logs.xmpp.org/xsf/ | Agenda https://trello.com/b/Dn6IQOu0/board-meetings

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[05:58:29] <moparisthebest> Ugh https://www.irc.com/
[05:58:50] <moparisthebest> Maybe someone should tell them about XMPP
[05:59:57] <ralphm> Seems like a fine initiative.
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[18:10:49] <daniel> is there a way to link to w3c specs from xeps the same way we link to rfcs?
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[18:28:42] <daniel> i added a small section on CORS Headers to the http upload xep. any opinions before i submit this as a PR? https://gultsch.de/files/xep-0363.html#impl
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[18:31:35] <Ge0rG> > Since there is no reason for a client to wait between requesting the slot and starting the upload, relatively low timeout values of around 60s are RECOMMENDED.
Was that in the XEP before already? 60s is a bit short in some mobile situations.
[18:31:46] <daniel> yes
[18:32:20] <daniel> what would a reasonable timeout it. when i'm editing anyway i can edit that as well
[18:32:38] <daniel> maybe 300s? which is a usual sm timeout
[18:36:06] <Ge0rG> daniel: that's safe, yeah
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[18:37:03] <Ge0rG> Also your slot response might get caught in a SM session, so using 5m makes sense
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[18:37:18] <daniel> yes
[18:39:27] <lovetox> daniel "The make HTTP Upload work.."
[18:39:37] <lovetox> i guess this should read "To make.."
[18:40:06] <daniel> lovetox, thanks
[18:41:03] <lovetox> and one point too much at the end of section 7
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[19:20:48] <jonas’> daniel, LGTM
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[19:45:55] <jonas’> Steve Kille, I saw the mails on standards@; I’ll work on the PRs wednesday night or tomorrow night (CET), so that’ll work
[19:46:17] <jonas’> in general, for this type of remarks, it’s safer to use the github interface, because I’ll read that before merging anyways.
[19:46:28] <jonas’> cc @ daniel ^
[19:46:40] <jonas’> (since those were editorial discussions anyways)
[19:46:47] <ralphm> I'll try to add some comments tomorrow
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[19:47:04] <jonas’> ralphm, non-editorial things to the mailing list please
[19:47:20] <ralphm> Yes
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[20:59:23] <Steve Kille> jonas: thanks. I'll let you know when I'm done, and then Ralph and Daniel can give me more things to do
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[21:03:27] <jonas’> Steve Kille, acknowledged. leaving a comment for myself so that I don’t merge it accidentally
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[21:10:24] <lovetox> nice, no discovery on private storage
[21:10:40] <jonas’> lovetox, yupp
[21:10:54] <jonas’> which also doesn’t matter much, you figure it out on write
[21:11:49] <lovetox> then its too late
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[21:12:06] <lovetox> i want to show the user that he can bookmark a room, and disable the button if the server has no support
[21:12:48] <lovetox> i guess i leave that available all the time, and just go with the assumption every server has either pubusb or privatestorage
[21:14:23] <ralphm> Private storage is older than disco. Maybe some servers do advertise the namespaced, but it's not defined.
[21:14:38] <ralphm> -d
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[21:16:18] <ralphm> Except it being listed here: https://xmpp.org/registrar/disco-features.html
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[21:19:10] <ralphm> I think prosody announces it
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[21:19:41] <ralphm> jonas’: just put the PR up for review by yourself
[21:19:45] <lovetox> oh nice
[21:19:46] <lovetox> thanks
[21:20:01] <ralphm> jonas': Then you can't merge it.
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