XSF Discussion - 2019-01-04


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  161. Wiktor By the way, maybe it would be a good idea to add CORS header to XEP-0156: Discovering Alternative XMPP Connection Methods 3. HTTP Lookup Method. `/.well-known/host-meta` (&.json) cannot be discovered by Web Clients without it (this is similar to CORS for HTTP Upload).
  162. Ge0rG Wiktor: could you post that to the standards ML please?
  163. Ge0rG Wiktor: this needs to be made a PR against the XEP text, then approved by Council
  164. Wiktor yep, no problem
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  338. steven I've never done any work on XEPs or so. How would one go about extending the OMEMO spec to include OpenPGP signatures for OMEMO keys in the PEP nodes?
  339. MattJ That sounds like something that ought to be a new XEP
  340. steven I also don't know to what level of detail interactions should be detailed or so.
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  343. MattJ The minimum you need to cover is whatever the protocol looks like. The data structures, etc.
  344. steven Because in theory the only thing needed would be a format that allows attaching the signatures to the OMEMO node and the rest could be left up to the clients to interpret or handle.
  345. MattJ Sure
  346. jonas’ steven: in general, a developer must be able to create an interoperable implementation by reading the XEP and any documents it references
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  379. Ge0rG Dear HN sock puppets, please upvote the "XMPP Newsletter: Today Is Jabber's 20th Anniversary" from https://news.ycombinator.com/newest
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  382. uhoreg Ooh. Happy Anniversary! :)
  383. Ge0rG Original post from Jan 4th 1999: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18824957
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  393. edhelas upvoted :)
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  398. Ge0rG edhelas: we are spamming HN today, "Happy Birthday, XMPP 20th Anniversary of Jabber" on https://news.ycombinator.com/newest
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  407. Ge0rG edhelas: is movim.eu melting down under the load of HN frontpage news already? 😁
  408. edhelas I hope not :D
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  410. edhelas there's a spike on nginx requests yes, but CPU/IO/mem are fine
  411. edhelas we'll have some nice statistics after 1AM here https://fr.movim.eu/report.html :)
  412. steven edhelas, does movim expost activitypub?
  413. steven expose*
  414. steven edhelas, those GoAccess reports look sexy 😮
  415. edhelas yes :)
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  418. steven > edhelas, does movim expost activitypub? edhelas: ^
  419. edhelas is ActivityPub communicating with XMPP ? 🤔
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  423. edhelas from the Movim wiki > When you use Movim, it acts as an intermediary between the user's browser and an XMPP server. […] On the XMPP side Movim connects using pure TCP connections (like any XMPP client).
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  429. steven Actually, it amazes me a lot that XMPP is "only" as old as the Euro. I remember the launch of the euro quite vividly, even though I was only 7. But I might remember 2001 for that event, I think that's when we switched to it in Belgium.
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  432. steven Still, the euro seems "recent" while you hear people say XMPP is "old".
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  435. oli it was 2002
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  437. steven > The euro was introduced to world financial markets as an accounting currency on 1 January 1999, replacing the former European Currency Unit (ECU) at a ratio of 1:1 (US$1.1743). Physical euro coins and banknotes entered into circulation on 1 January 2002, making it the day-to-day operating currency of its original members, and by March 2002 it had completely replaced the former currencies.
  438. steven hmm, right, so 2002. still "only" 3 years younger then, though
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  440. steven edhelas, hmm, yeah you're right, it's probably the XMPP server that should expose activitypub for pubsub nodes with a plugin instead of movim.
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  446. oli steven: 1999 is correct. euro is 3 days older
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  467. j.r oli: just in germany the euro came in 2002
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  471. oli j.r: i used it 1999 in germany already.
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  474. j.r Oh OK Then I was wrong
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  492. Ge0rG Jeremie is still alive and kicking! https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18826383
  493. peter Sure he is, I have coffee with him every month or so. :-)
  494. peter He and I were working together every day at Filament, but then I left for Mozilla.
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  499. Ge0rG Hey peter!
  500. Ge0rG peter: you seem to be MIA rather often as well, but maybe that's just my impression
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  507. peter Ge0rG: Yeah, I've been super-busy at work and will be even busier in 2019.
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  509. Ge0rG peter: I know that feeling
  510. peter I don't have an IM client on my work computer, either, so I need to consciously start it up on one of my personal machines, which I don't look at very often because I'm on videochats most of the day. :-/
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  524. peter Ge0rG: we used to have some of the old CVS/SVN logs on one of the machines but we might have lost those - I will poke around a bit and ask Jer the next time I see him.
  525. Ge0rG peter: I'm just curious for archeological reasons
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  527. peter Yeah, agreed!
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