XSF logo XSF Discussion - 2019-02-14


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  25. pep. zinid: https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/xor.html#acc-harvesting I hadn't thought about that but now it seems pretty obvious indeed. I'm curious if this can be prevented at all but I'm not really optimistic
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  27. pep. Who do I need to ping to put this (0345 LC) back on the board agenda: https://mail.jabber.org/pipermail/standards/2019-January/035639.html
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  115. zinid pep.: we have this already with PEP, when we allowed everyone to read pep nodes
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  142. Guus Zash I'm trying to subscribe to your presence - unsure if that's getting through
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  149. Ge0rG Maybe it's one of those one-directional s2s links because of an internet protocol version mismatch?
  150. Zash Maybe I'm not quite awake
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  187. intosi Hi all. Due to an upgrade, there will be some blips in this room (and others on muc.xmpp.org).
  188. Zash blip blop
  189. intosi Right on schedule.
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  227. Ge0rG intosi: thanks for doing the work.
  228. Ge0rG A shameless re-plug of another i-team task: what about adding a mobile theme to the wiki?
  229. flow Where are the promised blips?
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  231. Zash no blip, only blop!
  232. zinid I had to reconnect to the MUC with Gajim
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  235. intosi Ge0rG: getting the wiki to work at all is a slightly higher prio.
  236. Ge0rG zinid: ask the devs for XEP-0410
  237. intosi It seems to have lost its ability to connect to postgres. Postgres is still there.
  238. Ge0rG oh wait, it doesn't help with getting kicked.
  239. Zash Future upgrades should be smoother, thanks to the magic of Prosody 0.11
  240. intosi There it is.
  241. Ge0rG Yay!
  242. intosi Kudos to Kev.
  243. Zash \o/
  244. Ge0rG I still don't believe in seamless MUC upgrades with 0.11
  245. Ge0rG Because you can't discuss away the intermittent s2s outage
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  247. Ge0rG And my gut feeling is it will become the GC1.0 of s2s.
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  249. Seve Hi
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  260. Zash Time will tell
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  280. Ge0rG 12:55:34 MUC service not responding. 12:57:36 Error> xsf@muc.xmpp.org: cancel: not-acceptable
  281. Ge0rG Speaking of prosody 0.11
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  283. zinid argh, I kicked silently again
  284. Ge0rG zinid: you kicked whom?
  285. zinid Ge0rG, I mean not kicked formally speaking, just lost the connection to this muc
  286. zinid silently this time
  287. zinid (previously Gajim got shutdown error)
  288. Ge0rG > zinid: ask the devs for XEP-0410
  289. Ge0rG would have helped with that.
  290. zinid Ge0rG, I don't care that much
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  292. zinid I would rather complain to this server operators who apparently fail to upgrade the server smoothly
  293. zinid also, even if I ask Gajim devs, Daniel still doesn't want to implement this
  294. zinid and we decided with him to finally go MIX road
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  296. zinid the updated MIX implementation will go in the next ejabberd release btw
  297. zinid and I stopped any attempts to improve MUC, I would rather focus on MIX
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  300. Ge0rG zinid: good luck with that.
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  302. zinid Ge0rG, good luck with MUC
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  317. jonas’ zinid, awesome!
  318. jonas’ that means I can start hacking on MIX in aioxmpp
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  370. zinid jonas’: you can already, I am running the branch on zinid.ru, let me know if you need an account there
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  396. ralphm set the topic to XSF Board Meeting | Logs: http://logs.xmpp.org/xsf/ | Agenda https://trello.com/b/Dn6IQOu0/board-meetings
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  398. ralphm 0. Welcome + Agenda
  399. ralphm Who's here and do you have anything beyond what's on Trello?
  400. ralphm nyco sent regrets
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  402. pep. 345 LC? Even if it's not added to today's agenda
  403. ralphm and seve said he might not make it
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  405. ralphm I don't see Guus or MattJ in here either. Maybe because of intosi.
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  408. zinid EAX-CAR, too, but it's not in Agenda neither: https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/eax-car.html
  409. intosi Probably my fault.
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  413. Guus Hey, I'm here
  414. Guus I'm happy to blame intosi
  415. ralphm Guus: yay
  416. Guus nyco sent regrets
  417. ralphm We still don't have quorum.
  418. Guus as did Seve
  419. ralphm Guus: yeah, I said this already
  420. Guus sorry, catchig up 🙂
  421. ralphm zinid, pep. thanks for the suggestions. I'll put them on Trello. Looks like it's going to be next week.
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  425. Guus Let's call this one busted.
  426. ralphm Indeed.
  427. Guus I won't be able to make next week
  428. ralphm 1. Date of Next
  429. ralphm +1W
  430. ralphm 2. Close
  431. ralphm Thanks!
  432. ralphm bangs gavel
  433. ralphm Guus: ok
  434. ralphm set the topic to XSF Discussion | Logs: http://logs.xmpp.org/xsf/ | Agenda https://trello.com/b/Dn6IQOu0/board-meetings
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  438. jonas’ zinid, I’d prefer to have a docker image actually.
  439. zinid jonas’, it's poorly maintained
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  441. jonas’ it’s the only thing which prevents me from having to maintain an ejabberd locally or heavily modify my end-to-end test framework.
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  449. moparisthebest zinid, does it have muc compatibility? that is, could it be enabled for an existing muc room and have mix and muc users co-exist ?
  450. zinid moparisthebest, the minimum compatibility (only basic MUC functionality) is planned
  451. zinid which means we're going to deprecate mod_muc in favor of mod_mix_muc
  452. moparisthebest cool, that's likely all that is needed
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  454. zinid jonas’, I know, you said that already, but I personally don't have neither time nor motivation to maintain the docker image, and ProcessOne is quite limited in human resources currently as well :/
  455. Seve test?
  456. jonas’ zinid, last time I checked somebody was still maintaining it
  457. zinid jonas’, yeah, Christophe, but for him it's also a completely side job, thus the image quality
  458. jonas’ can’t complain about the images recently
  459. zinid good
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  462. zinid however, there are some complaints in the bug tracker
  463. zinid so judging by them the image doesn't look like of a good quality to me
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  465. jonas’ good enough
  466. zinid okay
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