XSF Discussion - 2019-02-17


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  187. rion XEP-0234: The <checksum/> element SHOULD contain 'creator' and 'name' attributes sufficient to identitfy the content the checksum belongs to I believe it has to be MUST here. at least for name
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  192. rion just for the case when a session has multiple filetransfers
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  234. Link Mauve rion, I’m in the process of fixing a bunch of issues in this XEP, thanks for your input, that is noted!
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  237. rion Link Mauve: and I'm in the process of implementing it. =)
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  239. Link Mauve Yay!
  240. Link Mauve It will most likely result in a namespace bump, fyi.
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  246. zinid > namespace bump the worst thing a developer can hear :D
  247. Link Mauve Yes. ;_;
  248. Link Mauve But the current version already should have been, and didn’t.
  249. Link Mauve <hash-used/> was a breaking change.
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  251. zinid nah, I'm fine, it's a problem for abandonware only
  252. Link Mauve It also is a problem for everyone using a distribution based on providing old obsolete software.
  253. Link Mauve *cough* Debian *cough* CentOS *cough*
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  282. flow CentOS probably, but the situation in Debian has improved
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  303. pep. I disagree, but I also don't want to redo the same "discussion" we have all the time on other channels :)
  304. pep. I disagreeabout Debian, but I also don't want to redo the same "discussion" we have all the time on other channels :)
  305. pep. I disagree about Debian, but I also don't want to redo the same "discussion" we have all the time on other channels :)
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  309. flow pick one of: tabs vs spaces, emacs vs vim, debian is/is not terrible outdated
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  311. flow rion, if I may ask: implementing it where?
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  313. Link Mauve flow, Psi.
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  341. flow Ahh, what the state of Psi(+)? Which one should I look first at? Psi, which was probably the very first jabber client I ever used, or is Psi+ the way to go (because it is Psi plus X?)?
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  344. debacle flow, psi-plus 1.4.554-1 has been uploaded to Debian unstable this night. Unfortunately, the OMEMO plugin doesn't work for me. I have it enabled, but the encryption icon remains disabled. (send from psi-plus, excuse my brevity)
  345. Ge0rG just read that as "Debian unusable"
  346. debacle I'll ask the maintainer, whether I'm doing something wrong in respect to OMEMO. Also, I never used psi-plus before.
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  349. Ge0rG flow [12:06]: > pick one of: tabs vs spaces, emacs vs vim, debian is/is not terrible outdated Emacs and Debian are subjective matters of taste, don't put them into the same box as tabs vs spaces.
  350. pep. :D
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  352. debacle goes back from psi-plus to jabber.el (a.k.a. modern XMPP)
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  354. flow Such a pitty that jabber.el is not actively developed any more
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  356. flow And I still don't know the difference and background between Psi and Psi+, and which one I should give a try
  357. flow hmm funny the psi version in gentoo (1.4) is newer than the one on psi-im.org
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  360. flow Ahh https://psi-plus.com/wiki/doku.php?id=en:main#about_psi explains a bit
  361. flow I https://psi-plus.com/wiki/en:patches#vcard_clickable_photo really how vcards look these days in XMPP? I should consider switching from a console only client…
  362. pep. I'm starting having doubts about their target users
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  364. jonas’ lol
  365. jonas’ flow, FWIW, poezio
  366. jonas’ flow, FWIW, poezio allegedly has avatar support
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  369. flow jonas’, it has? Nice, looks like I have to read up on this
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  372. debacle.el Not so bad, this jabber.el
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  374. flow debacle.el, but still no carbons support? That was IIRC 2015 the reason I stop using it
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  389. rion Psi+ was mostly merged to Psi. Psi+ wiki is outdated
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  405. flow rion, thanks for info :)
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  408. flow rion: out of curiosity: what was *not* merged?
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  410. rion flow: unstable or incomplete stuff. Or maybe just something with bad design or mostly useless
  411. rion I hope to release it soon with mam, jingle and omemo
  412. rion Soon=2+ months
  413. rion Ah yes also voice messages and stable video calls
  414. rion Maybe not that soon))
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  418. debacle flow, I have no idea about the jabber.el feature set or XEP support, but I'm sure, it's pretty poor
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  420. Ge0rG That demands for a Venn diagram of the psi vs psi+ features.
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  514. melvo Hi, can someone tell me how to add a link to a XEP for refering to a section inside another XEP? I am looking for something like `&xep1234#section;`.
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  520. flow melvo, try using <link/>: https://github.com/xsf/xeps/blob/master/xep-0374.xml#L139
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  522. pep. What if you want to use the entity
  523. pep. &xep1234;#section I guess?
  524. pep. Or maybe not, you need .html or .whatever
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  532. melvo OK, thanks.
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  606. Alex Reminder that the Q1-2019 application period ends in 7 days: https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Membership_Applications_Q1_2019
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  644. jonas’ oh wow, I don’t even recall that I made my re-application already
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  646. flow Thanks for the reminder Alex :)
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