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Ge0rG
https://opensourcedesign.net/jobs/ - looks like paid jobs get priority review.
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Dele Olajide
I did some experimenting over the weekend to implement emoji reactions using XEP-0367: Message Attaching with my browser extension XMPP client Pàdé (converse.js on steriods). My use case was for simple positive and negative reactions using the smiley and frown emojis. See https://github.com/igniterealtime/Pade/issues/139 for more details. The only issue I have is what to display in the message body for compatibility with clients that don't yet support the XEP. I currently display the emoji, but if the reaction comes much later out of context, it could be mis-understood. I am curious to know how other XMPP clients plan to handle this.
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Ge0rG
Dele Olajide: https://github.com/jabbercat/jabbercat/issues/80
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Ge0rG
Dele Olajide: also please use 👍 and 👎 for +1 and -1
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Dele Olajide
>Ge0rG: Dele Olajide: also please use 👍 and 👎 for +1 and -1 thanks 👍
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Andrew Nenakhov
Dele Olajide, how do you work with message archives for attaching?
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Dele Olajide
I was extending converse.js ability to edit and correct archived messages
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Andrew Nenakhov
Like, archived on server as in XEP-0313?
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Dele Olajide
Yes, but most importantly, XEP-0359 for unique message Ids
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edhelas
MattJ I'm having a look at 0367, to add the "reactions/emojis" feature in Movim
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edhelas
what is the prefered way to "remove" the reaction
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edhelas
on Slack you can simply reclick on it, but how could it look like in this case ?
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MattJ
I guess the same way you would remove any message in a conversation...
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MattJ
(no, I don't really have an answer)
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edhelas
an message correction with a blank body :p ?
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MattJ
Might work :)
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MattJ
Also relevant: https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/message-retraction.html
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edhelas
yeah i though of that one as well
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Ge0rG
message re~tr~action
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edhelas
badam tsss
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edhelas
MattJ security wise you have to be really careful to check not only the ID but if the ID was published in the related configuration
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edhelas
i can get the message id of a message and publish an attached one in a totally different discussion
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edhelas
so for simple chat messages, the from of the attach should be part of the to or or from of a related parent
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edhelas
https://techcrunch.com/2019/03/25/going-going-gone/
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Ge0rG
Finally! The first GDPR compliant messenger!
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Zash
And then you send a message that somehow does hypnosis and makes your brain forget the conversations ever happened
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edhelas
can't wait for the <nuke id='SD24VCzSYQ' xmlns='urn:xmpp:message-nuking:0'/>
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MattJ
But which id will it match on?
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MattJ
To be on the safe side, match any
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jonas’
all the IDs
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jonas’
or all the messages?
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edhelas
everything
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edhelas
the admin receive a mail and put the SSD/HDD in the microwave
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edhelas
*MUST put
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Zash
module:hook("nuke", os.execute("wipe /dev/sd*"))
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jonas’
:D
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jonas’
good thing my servers have vd*
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Ge0rG
With the stalled PR on OSD, I wonder if https://img.shields.io/endpoint.svg?url=https://op-co.de/tmp/cs2019.json is just good enough.
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Zash
That looks pretty good
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Ge0rG
the logo contrast isn't good enough.
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Ge0rG
and I'd rather have a two-line tag with "XMPP" on its own line.
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Ge0rG
jonas’: I'd love to see https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/773 merged in time for our next Agenda.
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pep.
Was there no LC for 412 already? Is there going to be a LC-round2?
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Ge0rG
pep.: no, there's going to be a Council Vote.
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jonas’
I have the impression that much of this applies to XMPP, too: https://www.debian.org/vote/2019/platforms/tbm
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jonas’
(this is an application for the debian project leader role)
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MattJ
I know what you mean. Though it doesn't seem as bad. I feel like we already recognized many issues and are addressing them as best we can
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MattJ
I also don't think XMPP is "boring" right now. I think it got that way for a few years, but there is a resurgence of interest and community activity
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MattJ
There are still many difficult problems to solve, and that's personally something I enjoy doing
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Kev
I think the lack of person power with people being paid to actually concentrate on XSF work is valid, though.
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Kev
Although obviously horrendously non-trivial to do anything about.
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Kev
Do we need a fundamental change in how we do stuff? I don't think so. But we do need, I think, some people doing more work for the XSF.
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Zash
Volunteer organization problems?
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Guus
Addressable.
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Guus
And worthy to be addressed
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Zash
I'm under the impression that we don't currently have an active ED. (Re that being about a leader role)
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Guus
You are right.
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Guus
Peter stepped down, board decided to not appoint a replacement.
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Zash
IIRC partly because it wasn't clear what the responsibilites of that role were, or they could be handled by the board, secretary just fine.
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Guus
Pretty much
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Guus
Nothing set in stone though
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Guus
Also, appointing an ED isn't the only option we have.
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waqas
Is it clear what we even want? And what we want it from (e.g., XSF vs community stuff)?
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Guus
aside: I'd prefer to increase the overall productivity by increasing it a little in many people, instead of finding one person to work pretty much full-time.
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Guus
waqas: all very debatable. But I suspect that a generic consensus can be found to at least increase productivity.
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Zash
Also depends on how active a role the XSF itself should have
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waqas
Guus: Productivity in what activity?
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Guus
My take: produce and progress standards, promote the XMPP ecosystem.
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Guus
I'm on mobile, which causes me to be more terse than desirable for this discussion.
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Seve
> I'm under the impression that we don't currently have an active ED. (Re that being about a leader role) What would that fix though
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Seve
> aside: I'd prefer to increase the overall productivity by increasing it a little in many people, instead of finding one person to work pretty much full-time. I completely agree on that, that has many benefits