XSF logo XSF Discussion - 2019-04-23


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  10. moparisthebest jabber.org certificate is expired if anyone knows how to ping admins
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  13. Zash They know
  14. moparisthebest Cool
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  41. Neustradamus moparisthebest: there are tickets on github :) https://github.com/stpeter/jabberdotorg/issues
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  68. Ge0rG Are they new or from previous periods? 🤔
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  112. Kev jonas’: One of my team just noticed the new XEP rendering and commented how neat it looks. JFYI.
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  188. moparisthebest Ge0rG, looks like both! needs more cron
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  190. moparisthebest or, systemd timers, whatever the latest hotness in scheduled jobs is
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  194. Ge0rG you can't cron everything.
  195. Ge0rG Also privilege separation. I don't want certbot to have enough privileges to restart/reload my xmpp server.
  196. Ge0rG but devops today just install a docker that hooks into your other docker and then everything sinks and...
  197. moparisthebest I mean you can give it *just* enough priveleges to tell it to reload the certificate
  198. Zash Sounded like there weren't any way to only reload the cert.
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  200. moparisthebest then 'just enough' is restarting the server ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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  202. moparisthebest is it better to have an admin remember to renew manually and restart the server manually? because you know where that gets you
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  204. Ge0rG Zash: did I mention yet that the documented way of reloading certs in prosody doesn't work? Except when I do it twice.
  205. Zash Ge0rG: Not that I remember. Is there an issue for that?
  206. Ge0rG Zash: no. Maybe a pastebin on the prosody@ MUC. I've got a "complicated" setup, and I never had enough evidence to feel that pulling a number would be actually useful
  207. Zash I might have seen it to, or at least wondered why it only works when directly observed.
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  211. Ge0rG Zash: https://issues.prosody.im/1346
  212. Zash Thanks
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  299. moparisthebest > MASQUE (Multiplexed Application Substrate over QUIC Encryption) is a mechanism that allows co-locating and obfuscating networking applications behind an HTTPS web server.
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  302. moparisthebest new IETF mailing list set up for it, expect a XEP soon >:)
  303. moparisthebest new ALPN I guess?
  304. Zash Saw the mail. I cried.
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  311. moparisthebest pats Zash , it'll be ok
  312. moparisthebest hey you didn't want everything going over TLS on 443 right?
  313. moparisthebest now it'll just all go over UDP instead
  314. Zash Is that even going to work?
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  316. moparisthebest only because all browsers and CDNs will add support at the same time yes
  317. moparisthebest ie, the same reason TLS on 443 worked
  318. Zash TLS on 443 works because nobody dare block it ... yet.
  319. moparisthebest can't have anything nice, unless you are 1 of the 2ish major browser vendors, and then you can have whatever you want
  320. Zash Browser vendors being the driving force behind anything, and everything becoming browser based is what depresses me.
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  327. Ge0rG Browser vendors being the driving force behind MTA-STS...
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  332. Zash DANE or DIE!
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  335. Zash Wait how is MTA-STS different from POSH?
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  339. Link Mauve Zash, it also requires DNS, and a subdomain.
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  344. mathieui alsam
  345. mathieui oops
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