XSF logo XSF Discussion - 2019-04-26


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  11. (◠_◠✿)Demon(◕‿◕✿) hi
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  66. MattJ Neustradamus, thanks so much
  67. MattJ And just so you know, jabber.org is not part of the XSF, it is not managed by iteam
  68. Neustradamus Yes yes I know, look https://github.com/xsf/xmpp.org/issues/483 For the "independent" jabber.org service, you can see all (comments too) on the first ticket here: stpeter/jabberdotorg#1 and other here: https://github.com/stpeter/jabberdotorg/issues.
  69. Neustradamus But an update of the jabber.org website is needed! And a change of repository on github to org...
  70. MattJ Because?
  71. Neustradamus 1/ Team is not up-to-date 2/ No support actually, stpeter is a busy guy 3/ A lot of problems
  72. MattJ Team looks ok to me
  73. Seve nyco, thank you very much for the minutes :) And also thank you MattJ for stepping up! Very appreciated!
  74. Neustradamus MattJ: badly there are no support
  75. Neustradamus "It is not me..."
  76. Neustradamus Have you a date for the migration of jabber.org?
  77. Neustradamus Debian, M-Link, DH Key, ...?
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  80. Neustradamus For have a better server? https://xmpp.net/result.php?domain=jabber.org&type=server + https://xmpp.net/result.php?domain=jabber.org&type=client
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  82. Neustradamus And for a D-1 cron cert renew? Renew at 89D instead of 90D for have not problems?
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  113. ralphm Neustradamus: we have told you this many times: the XSF nor its Infrastructure Team run jabber.org or any related services.
  114. Neustradamus Yes yes I know, look https://github.com/xsf/xmpp.org/issues/483 For the "independent" jabber.org service, you can see all (comments too) on the first ticket here: stpeter/jabberdotorg#1 and other here: https://github.com/stpeter/jabberdotorg/issues.
  115. Neustradamus It is possible to update the jabber.org team ? https://www.jabber.org/team.html ?
  116. ralphm I'm aware of the issues, but this room is not the right place to discuss them, and MattJ now leading iteam has nothing to do with them.
  117. Neustradamus https://github.com/stpeter/jabberdotorg/issues/1
  118. Neustradamus How it is possible to contact jabber.org iteam?
  119. Neustradamus If not here, not in jabber room too?
  120. ralphm Neustradamus: please stop discussing this here. Last time I ask.
  121. Neustradamus A lot of tickets wait answers since several months. I have done tickets for have a real trace. It is not about me, it is real. Thanks for the consideration.
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  124. ralphm You have raised issue in jabber@conference.jabber.org and gotten replies. If you are not satisfied that is not a reason to bother this room with that.
  125. Guus I was just about to point to https://www.jabber.org/team.html, which lists that room.
  126. Neustradamus Guus: Yes but hard to have the good guy for reply, several times (in several years): "It is not me". You can look all tickets on https://github.com/stpeter/jabberdotorg/issues closed and opened. I have requested to move personal repository to org for a better management of the jabber.org team...
  127. ralphm Dude, Peter himself replied in that room.
  128. Guus Neustradamus well, that's up to them. There's no point in trying to get a different response from people in this MUC.
  129. ralphm We know you are not agreeing with how things work, but you'll just have to accept things and move on.
  130. Neustradamus ralphm: The last ticket OK (about cert renew) but not for other point :)
  131. Guus I can understand that you're not happy with the (lack of) response that you got, but trying to get different/more responses here will a) not work, and b) annoy people.
  132. ralphm Neustradamus: If Peter and others want to run jabber.org a certain way that you disagree with, even after repeated appeals and subsequent rejections, you are just out of luck.
  133. Guus On a side-note: One of the strengths of XMPP is that it is fully distributed. If you're unhappy with how jabber.org is ran, you should run your own service and invite people to use it!
  134. Guus I'm quite unhappy with having domains in the network that serve a large percentage of the total user base. Spreading them out over more services is good.
  135. Neustradamus Of course yes
  136. Guus Maybe focus on that?
  137. Neustradamus But Jabber.org must be an example
  138. Guus I invite you to create a better example
  139. Neustradamus The first, and badly not perfect yet (look xmpp.net tests) But I hope improvements soon with the new Debian.
  140. Ge0rG use the knowledge from the recent security incident to replace matrix.org with an XMPP server.
  141. Guus 😝
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  143. Guus Ge0rG did you notice that the badge design jobboard posting thingy got a response?
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  146. Ge0rG Guus: I did, yes. It's very high on my agenda to respond to that.
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  148. Guus k, the person appeared to be somewhat annoyed by a lack of response. I must admit that I missed it myself.
  149. Ge0rG Guus: it was not the channel I expected to receive responses on.
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  151. Guus lessons to be learned for our own to-be-realized job-board, Seve !
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  153. Seve Agree :)
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  400. moparisthebest Mozilla needs an IRC replacement https://blog.rust-lang.org/2019/04/26/Mozilla-IRC-Sunset-and-the-Rust-Channel.html http://exple.tive.org/blarg/2019/04/26/synchronous-text/
  401. moparisthebest Looks like they are getting sucked into walled gardens :'(
  402. moparisthebest Discord ugh
  403. pep. It's been a while rust has been using discord :(
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