pep.Can we also see that email to board@ btw? (iirc this list is private?)
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Ge0rGpep.: how about this https://op-co.de/tmp/messenger-regulation.html
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ZashGet them to lead by example and go XMPP exclusive.
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edhelaswe should open the XSF Diplomacy Bureau
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vanitasvitaeIt would be great to get in contact with the politicians
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rionFrom XEP-0260:
>> Here the value is calculated as SHA1(SID + Initiator JID + Responder JID) since the initiator will be the entity that activates the bytestream at the proxy.
That's basically wrong. The proxy will be activated by an entity which sent the proxy candidate. Since any party can send a proxy candidate we don't know if it's initiator or responder.
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rionI'm going to implement it old-fashioned way in Psi. In other words
SHA1(SID + <JID or party offered proxy candidate> + <JID or party accepting proxy candidate>)
and then, the party offered proxy candidate will activate the proxy.
flowrion, that sounds familiar, I think I run into the same issue
flowwould you mind creating an PR against xep260 for that, or at least document it at https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/XEP-Remarks/XEP-0260:_Jingle_SOCKS5_Bytestreams_Transport_Method ?
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flowsee also xep260 note 4
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rionflow: sure. I will
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flowrion, much appreciated
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nycoHi Board, apologies, won't be able to join this meeting
GuusNo worries nyco - thanks for the heads up.
Guusralphm mentioned yesterday that he'd be in a plane again, I think.
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jonas’so he ... "board"ed ahead of time?
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GuusMaybe we should declare this a dad-joke-free zone...
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jonas’what’s wrong with duplicate-address-detection jokes?
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Guusjonas’ enough with the coffee.
MattJMay be a few min late
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GuusSeve are you available?
SeveYes, I am.
MattJHey
MattJRalph said he's out today
Guusindeed, as did nyco
Guusso it's us
Guusdoes someone want to chair?
Guusbangs the gavel
Guuswe've established who's here. The agenda will be Trello driven, as usual. Does someone want to add anything?
GuusI'm also looking for someone to do the minutes
SeveI have nothing to add. Minutes can be done after the meeting as past times I guess
Guusthanks
Guus1. Succession of Kev as iteam lead
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KevMattJ already took over, no?
GuusWasn't this resolved by MattJ stepping up?
Guusyeah, wondering if it was left on Trello for a reason
SeveYes, as far as I remember.
MattJYep
Guusarchived the card
MattJI think we can consider it resolved
Guus2. Clarify what happens when a typo (or equivalent) is fixed in a Deferred XEP
Guustwo weeks ago, we requested input from Council on this
GuusI've not read up on their minutes
GuusKev, can you tell us if Council gave feedback on this?
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Guuswe might've lost him. I'll leave this for now
Guusboth commitments were Ralph's, who's not here. I did see an email regarding the Tigase logo issue, but I'm not sure if he followed up with TIgase.
Guus3. How to proceed with Compliance Badges?
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GuusWe have now three possible designs. How do we want to proceed?
Do we want to choose a solution now? Do we want to get in touch with the three volunteers to submit a final proposal? Needs discussion.
Guuscc Ge0rG
KevSorry, I'm back.
KevCouncil suggested an alternative approach to that PR.
Kev(Which was to properly define our versioning scheme). Jonas took that on.
Ge0rGSorry, I'm semi gone
GuusThanks Kev, I'll leave that as a remark on the Trello card.
Ge0rGGuus: I think all three designs aren't quite there yet, rather prototypes.
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GuusGe0rG as the driving force behind this, as well as the XEP author iirc, are you intending to follow up?
GuusOr do you prefer that someone else takes this on?
Guus(I have the impression that your 'semi-gone' state is shared with much of board)
Guus*tap*tap* this thing on?
MattJ:)
MattJSorry, crazy day, but I am here
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SeveTo me, I liked that somebody not in the community suggested a design, I would be curious about what could he do
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Ge0rGGuus: I'm going to be fully gone for two weeks starting tomorrow evening, so I'm not opposed to more support
SeveI would like to know what do you guys think, as Ge0rG says, they are more prototypes than something finished, but we need to decide where do we go next
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Ge0rGI'd appreciate community feedback on the visual quality and content of the prototypes
GuusSeve: I like them as-is - but I'm not UI expert by far. I'm also wondering how we decide on what to pick.
GuusGe0rG mailinglist?
Ge0rGGuus: would you?
Guusyes, but later.
GuusI'm crazy busy with work that MattJ was to crazy-busy with.
Guus🙂
Ge0rGif later is before next Board meeting, that's sooner than I could
Guusok, no point in discussing it more now, I think.
GuusDo we want to discuss the Messenger Regulation thingy now?
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GuusI don't feel we've got the attention span required, to tbh
MattJI haven't reviewed the email properly yet
Guuskicks that can down the road.
Ge0rGjust vote yes. I'm well known for responsibly handling communications.
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MattJ:)
Guusfwiw, thanks for suggesting this, Ge0rG - I hope we can find a way to collaborate
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Guus# AOB
GuusI'd like to mention that we have 3 accepted GSoC projects/students.
MattJNone here
SeveNone here as well
Guusflow, do you want to chime in on that perhaps?
GuusI"ll take that as a 'no'.
GuusDate of next
Guus+1w?
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GuusI hear no objections 🙂
Guusbangs the gavel
SeveThank you very much for chairing, Guus
GuusThis felt like typing to a wall, to be honest
Guusmore coffee next time, guys 🙂
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SeveI understad, but there's nothingng to be said. I haven't read the email as MattJ said, and I would like to finish with the badges thing
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edhelasby the way, was there a final decision for https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/758
edhelasI see that there was a vote made on it https://mail.jabber.org/pipermail/standards/2019-May/036104.html
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Guusedhelas from what I can see from those minutes, the issue is waiting for Link Mauve 's vote.
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jonas’edhelas, Guus’ interpretation is correct
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edhelas😃
Guus\o/
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flowGuus, sorry, was in a meeting. Yes we have 3 GSoC students and I hope to be able to introduce them to you and the world by an blog post soon™
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Guus👍
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edhelasGuus is slowly moving to a full emoji based conversation
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