XSF logo XSF Discussion - 2019-06-16


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  48. rion who is author pf the SIMS spec?
  49. rion I don't understand why it uses <reference> element. Why not just put <media-sharing> right into <message>
  50. rion and aslo <reference> spec states "uri" is mandatory while SIMS doesn't use it for top-level <reference>
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  59. Ge0rG rion: I think the idea of using reference is to be able to attach the image / file to a specific word / sentence in the message. Unfortunately, the reference XEP isn't finished yet
  60. rion Ge0rG: yep. that's what I guessed. but I believe it doesn't add much good UX. Usually I want just drag'n'drop some files on chat dialog to share them. and that's where I don't understand how to use references and if they needed at all here.
  61. rion well I can referene some preferred data source probably in uri in addition to <sources> amd just ignore the fact it's a reference
  62. Ge0rG rion: conversations made that stupid convention on top of XEP-0066, and then everybody else moved along
  63. Ge0rG rion: I don't have the slightest idea what the URI for a given message is, anyway.
  64. Ge0rG Maybe Movim was the client using SIMS?
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  68. rion jabber:x:oob is quite a weird and mostly useless thing as for me. SIMS with all its metadata and transports diversity looks way better
  69. rion btw, what's status of this https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/message-retraction.html ?
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  71. Ge0rG rion: I fully agree. OOB only gives you the url, no meta data, so you need to HEAD it to find out what it's about
  72. flow rion, Tobias is the author and the URI situation is unfortunate and should probably get fixes
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