XSF logo XSF Discussion - 2019-06-21


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  192. Ge0rG What do you send to your user's client when blocking a JID?
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  195. Ge0rG goffi: nice idea on list with the "Social" Compliance Suite category. Could you make a PR with the suggested XEPs against 0412 on my repository fork?
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  197. goffi Ge0rG: I'll try, but I'm overwhelmed, so I can guanranty when. Please ping me if I haven't done it in a couple of days.
  198. Ge0rG goffi: I don't know about the involved XEPs. Do you still need XHTML-IM? I fear I'll just forget about the whole thing in a week or two.
  199. Ge0rG Amt you can't just open issues on the XSF repository because the editors don't like that
  200. Ge0rG And I fear you can't open issues on my fork, which would've been a good reminder
  201. goffi XEP-0412 is draft, so I guess we can't modify it anymore, it should be next year suite
  202. goffi I'll open a ticket on my bug tracker as a reminder
  203. Ge0rG As I somehow ended up as the shepherd of Compliance Suite, I'm the one responsible for forking it into a new proto XEP, unless Council decides on a new way to do things
  204. Ge0rG goffi: but if you provide the delta against 0412, I'll move it over to the new one.
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  206. goffi Ge0rG: alright, I've made a ticket to our tracker as a reminder (https://bugs.goffi.org/bugs/view/307), so I wont forget. I'll do that when I find some time :)
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  210. Ge0rG goffi: 👍
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  221. pep. https://github.com/xsf/xmpp.org/pull/577 Somebody to review/merge this plz? :)
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  227. pep. who manages the dresden meetup? Meetup it can be added here: https://xmpp.org/community/events.html
  228. pep. who manages the dresden meetup? Maybe it can be added here: https://xmpp.org/community/events.html
  229. j.r pep.: I could do it
  230. pep. Thanks
  231. j.r pep., done https://github.com/xsf/xmpp.org/pull/579
  232. pep. j.r, can you remove your second change
  233. pep. I just fixed it
  234. pep. small atomic commits :)
  235. j.r pep., I did a second change?
  236. pep. https://github.com/xsf/xmpp.org/pull/579/files
  237. pep. rebase on master
  238. j.r Yeah my fork seems to be a bit outdated
  239. j.r Ok will delete the PR and do it again
  240. pep. No need to delete
  241. pep. push force on your branch, that will update the PR
  242. pep. (or just push, if there's no need to force)
  243. j.r pep., yeah I remebered this way to do after delete xD
  244. j.r But here we go: https://github.com/xsf/xmpp.org/pull/580
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  246. pep. Thanks
  247. pep. Guus, ^, one more! :)
  248. j.r > Guus, ^, one more! :) What?
  249. pep. I don't have merge powers
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  251. j.r Ah ok
  252. j.r Oh ok
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  283. pep. I'm organising a sprint in Lyon, we'll fix the dates end of the week: https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Sprints/2019_July_Lyon, poke me if you interested
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  308. edhelas I had a really interesting remark by a user, he wanted to make the password policy more strict in Movim, I was wondering if we could no do that on a XMPP level. For example create a small XEP to ask the clients to at least set passwords that have 8 characters minimum + letters/numbers…
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  310. edhelas it's simply a guideline and server wise the user can still set a "1234" password, but at least most of our users will set something a bit stronger
  311. pep. You can have a server policy for sure, that's an implementation detail
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  349. moparisthebest that's also something that changes constantly
  350. moparisthebest and XMPP/SASL has password schemes where the server doesn't know the password right?
  351. moparisthebest can't enforce length or complexity requirements if you don't know it
  352. moparisthebest lastly that 'letters + numbers' is outdated, current best practice is simply length I'm pretty sure? "pass phrases" instead of "passwords" ?
  353. Guus Correct horse battery staple
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  410. Ge0rG edhelas: simple policy can be easily mapped to a small XEP (number of letters, number of digits, etc). If you want arbitrary rules, you are into Turing Complete language territory...
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  414. moparisthebest "good password policy" is already defined by plenty of people though, NIST, PCI standards etc etc
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  420. Ge0rG moparisthebest: then it can be implemented directly in all clients. Problem solved
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  489. pep. "number of letters, number of digits, ..", I so wish services would stop doing that, and also restricting password length to 30, or 20, or 8, because.. as if they didn't use password hashes, that's scary
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