XSF logo XSF Discussion - 2019-09-04


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  29. Neustradamus pep.: Thanks for this information!
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  195. jubalh got another friend using ios. which client should i recommend him?
  196. eevvoor chatsecure or monal jubalh
  197. jubalh i think i read something that monal is not in the appstore anymore?
  198. jubalh i have no idea about ios. so i don tknow how to install things that are not in that store
  199. eevvoor monal has Problems with mucs but displays message previews. Chatsecure manages MUCs kind of ok, but gives only the nr of new messages as preview
  200. jubalh I only saw 'Siskin' now. Anzy experience with this? Or Zom?
  201. eevvoor as far as I know zom is still very beta?
  202. eevvoor not sure ...
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  209. jubalh hmm..
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  218. pep. Message Retractions is quite famous lately. /me reading JC's thread on standards@
  219. pep. Also Andrew Nenakhov as usual pushing for their non-standard solution :)
  220. pep. (In russian)
  221. Dele (Mobile) >pep.: reading JC's thread on standards@ Please tell, where?
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  225. Zash https://mail.jabber.org/pipermail/standards/2019-September/036406.html
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  228. Dele (Mobile) 🙏 thank you
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  243. pep. jonas’, https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/810#issuecomment-527553988, what kind of message do you expect in that block? "Make pubsub URIs confirm to RFC5222" or sth?
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  250. jonas’ pep., something like that, ideally with a naming of the section with which the old version conflicted
  251. pep. k
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  322. pep. Thanks. I'm not on the laptop anymore, I'll try to remember when I get back on it
  323. ralphm Doesn't GitHub send you e-mails?
  324. pep. That I have now read?
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  330. ralphm Unread them?
  331. pep. You trying to fix my workflow like this has little chances of succeeding, but thanks :)
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  337. ralphm You are right: good luck remembering and I indeed want no part in your workflow.
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  373. pep. ralphm, hmm, can I just reference 0147 then (which in turn references 5222)?
  374. ralphm 5*1*22
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  376. ralphm Sure
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  378. ralphm In retrospect it is very regrettable that this RFC didn't get that other number.
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  380. pep. oops, 5122 yes
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  386. pep. ok last attempt for https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/810 ?
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  390. pep. jonas’, hmm, do I just say "XEP-0147" then, or do I also add the title of the XEP and a link to it (as if I had used the entity)
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  393. jonas’ You cannot add link sthere
  394. jonas’ that’s why you cannot use the enity
  395. jonas’ that’s why you cannot use the entity
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  398. pep. I see
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  402. pep. Ok I guess we can squash that later if you want then. pushing again.
  403. jonas’ I won’t do any squashing
  404. jonas’ if you feel embarrased by ugly commit history, you have to do it yourself ;)
  405. pep. nah it's fine
  406. jonas’ I am proficient in git, you can’t confuse me with a force push :)
  407. pep. I mean I could have done it if you wanted, I'm fine like this
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  409. pep. *but I'm fine like this
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  414. ralphm jonas’: really? Oh, man.
  415. ralphm I didn't know the changes section was restricted
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  417. jonas’ everything is restricted
  418. jonas’ it’s DTD’d after all
  419. jonas’ thus, whitelist-based
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  421. ralphm yup
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  448. Neustradamus SCRAM is in progress: https://github.com/scram-xmpp/info/issues/1
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  469. Neustradamus Thanks a lot to Alexey Melnikov for changes: https://github.com/cyrusimap/cyrus-sasl/commits/master.
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  475. Neustradamus If your projects are not listed, please inform me in private with SCRAM details: https://github.com/scram-xmpp/info/issues/1
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  479. rion Neustradamus: honestly I don't see a reason to maintain some strange issue in some strange project on github. maybe it's better to make a wiki page? on xsf wiki or somewhere at https://github.com/xsf/
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  481. Neustradamus rion: You can see the number of tickets without solution: https://github.com/xsf/ ;)
  482. rion it's pretty normal situation
  483. Neustradamus https://github.com/xsf/xmpp.org/issues https://github.com/xsf/registrar/issues https://github.com/xsf/rfcs/issues https://github.com/xsf/schemas/issues
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  485. Ge0rG So opening more issues in more places is the obvious solution to that, yeah
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  491. Neustradamus Ge0rG: you can see publication date
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  531. ralphm Ge0rG: what Kev said in council@. I'm drafting a blog post, with various way of pointing to things (attaching, referencing, etc.), in protocol and visual renderings, along with explanatory prose.
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  601. pep. dumb question (maybe?), why do we need the disco example in all XEPs? They're all the same and it's always the same format once we know what feature advertize
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  603. pep. Would a <disco var='urn:xmpp:foo'/> tag be doable in xslt to produce all this boilerplate?
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  607. dwd Only if you want to go to the hassle of changing XEP-0001 for it.
  608. pep. process :(
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  610. dwd You needn't have disco spelt out in that way; I think most people just cut and pasted from another XEP to have it in.
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  613. dwd On the assumption you're writing a XEP, just phrase it how you want and leave out the boilerplate. I don't think every XEP needs to spell it out in full - in fact, there's solid arguments why they shouldn't.
  614. pep. Indeed
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