XSF Discussion - 2019-09-23


  1. Link Mauve

    “10:37:17 lovetox> hm, we need a server component that records caps hashes, and provides statistic on what clients are in use on the server”, we have some at https://stats.jabberfr.org/

  2. Link Mauve

    Look at the client identities graph.

  3. Link Mauve

    Without much surprise, Pidgin is the most used client.

  4. Link Mauve

    I-don-t-want-to-live-on-this-planet-anymore.png

  5. pep.

    You have been selected for our next trip to mars, welcome!

  6. edhelas

    https://nl.movim.eu/?about#statistics_tab sur Movim il est loin derrière :D

  7. Link Mauve

    Il n’y a que 2,5% d’utilisateurs de Movim sur movim.eu ?

  8. Link Mauve

    C’est les utilisateurs connectés actuellement ?

  9. edhelas

    c'est pas sur movim.eu

  10. edhelas

    ce sont les presences cachées du pod

  11. Ge0rG

    Is it possible to get a snapshot of all the connected client caps from prosody?

  12. edhelas

    Ge0rG the question is for me ?

  13. Ge0rG

    edhelas: no, for Link Mauve probably

  14. Zash

    You would probably need that plugin that you can't use.

  15. Ge0rG

    Zash: but it's not sufficient, right?

  16. Zash

    Don't know what you mean, defer to Link Mauve

  17. Ge0rG

    have them in RAM != have a way to dump them

  18. Ge0rG

    also I already asked Link Mauve ;)

  19. Zash

    The Hamming distance between "Message Retraction" and "Message Reaction" is too low!

  20. Daniel

    Yes

  21. Ge0rG

    `tr -d [tr]`

  22. edhelas

    Zash lower than MIX-MUC ?

  23. Zash

    2 on both?

  24. Ge0rG

    also I'm sure you are talking of Levenshtein, not of Hamming.

  25. Zash

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamming_distance https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Levenshtein_distance What, both exist?!

  26. Ge0rG

    yes, but Hamming("Retraction", "Reaction") == ∞

  27. Zash

    See also - agrep - Damerau–Levenshtein distance - diff - Dynamic time warping

  28. lovetox

    amazing, more people use pidgin then conversations :D

  29. MattJ

    It varies wildly between servers

  30. MattJ

    As far as I can see servers that have been around a long time have mostly Pidgin, newer servers have mostly Conversations, Movim servers have mostly Movim

  31. Zash

    Pidgin tends to be in the top very often tho.

  32. lovetox

    thats why it would be nice if servers would funnel such statistics into another server

  33. Ge0rG

    lovetox: but GDPR!

  34. Zash

    Ge0rG said the magic word^W acronym!

  35. Ge0rG

    I'd like to make a snapshot of the versions of the currently connected clients, but nobody tells me how ;)

  36. Zash

    It would involve writing code that queries all clients I suppose. Prosody doesn't store that in memory or anywhere normally.

  37. Ge0rG

    won't it query all clients for caps anyway?

  38. Ge0rG

    We used to have a mod_query_all_clients_version_on_connect thing

  39. Ge0rG

    but that's not the same, because it's skewed towards clients with flaky connections

  40. Zash

    The PEP module does but doesn't save anything but the +notify bits it need.

  41. lovetox

    yeah but it would be easy to write a module that just stores that info that comes in because of the pep module

  42. Zash

    Link Mauve did. But Ge0rG can't use it due to version conflict.

  43. Link Mauve

    Ge0rG, it is possible.

  44. Link Mauve

    But I have a date shortly, so I’ll defer the oneliner to some other Prosody person.

  45. Ge0rG

    Link Mauve: have a nice evening, and let's talk about it tomorrow

  46. Link Mauve

    Ge0rG, also the module which doesn’t work on 0.11 is the one that automatically answers disco, mod_measure_client_identities shouldn’t have any issue.

  47. Ge0rG

    Ah! I'm not using the mod_measure framework yet, either :(

  48. Link Mauve

    Now might be a good time to start using it then. :)

  49. Ge0rG

    Maybe.

  50. Ge0rG

    Or maybe I should rather fix the burning issues in two of my Android apps.

  51. Ge0rG

    Or maybe I should remove the weeds from my garden first. Oh, priorities!

  52. yoden

    hello everyone

  53. yoden

    i need some help in here pls

  54. moparisthebest

    such as?

  55. moparisthebest

    we can help with any XMPP standards related problem

  56. yoden

    xmpp to whatsapp is it possible

  57. yoden

    i have finch

  58. yoden

    can i msg to whatsapp

  59. moparisthebest

    a quick search found https://github.com/stv0g/transwhat so I'd say it's certainly possible, don't know if that in particular works

  60. yoden

    thx so much

  61. yoden

    i'l give a try

  62. yoden

    that's all i need thank you mopa