XSF logo XSF Discussion - 2019-10-02


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  106. !XSF_Martin > XMPP has support for threading in RFC 6121 even, but no client does it because it’s unclear how to handle clients which don’t support or don’t want to support threads 🤔[1] 👍[2][*]
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  108. !XSF_Martin Like this? Asterisk means you (e.g. your other client which supports reactions) reacted.
  109. !XSF_Martin I would drop the info who used which reaction for clients not supporting it.
  110. !XSF_Martin You can still find out by seeng who send the last reaction and comparing what changed.
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  113. !XSF_Martin > but how to filter it out for clients that support it 🤔 Maybe two bodys. Reaction body and the legacy citation body. Like OMEMO does.
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  116. !XSF_Martin But how to get rid of the overhead once it's widespread supported? Make it a 'SHOULD include legacy citation body' in the XEP, support it in the beginning and drop it in clients when you think it's no more necessary?
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  127. jonas’ j.r, also, that makes UX massively worse for clients which deliberately don’t support threads (because threads aren’t everyones cup of tea)
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  172. pep. “xmpp:council@muc.xmpp.org/?join”, not to pick on Tedd (that appeared in his last email), I'm just curious if that's valid with the “/”
  173. jonas’ it’s not
  174. jonas’ methinks
  175. jonas’ either it is "xmpp:" + jid + "?join", in which case `jid` is not a valid jid (empty resource), or it’s "xmpp:" + jid + "/?join" which has unspecified semantics
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  185. Ge0rG As the JID part is technically a path in the URI, I wouldn't even categorically deny it being possible
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  187. jonas’ yes, but the semantics in any case aren’t what they are intended to be
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  201. Ge0rG is it written down somewhere that a bare JID must not have a trailing /
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  204. MattJ iirc it's written that the resource cannot be empty
  205. MattJ and by logical extension there is no valid JID that ends with '/'
  206. Ge0rG this is PRECIS land, then
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  208. jonas’ MattJ, correct
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  211. Ge0rG xmpp: URI handling is badly integrated anyway.
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  223. ralphm I can confirm the variant with nothing between / and ? is not valid
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  228. ralphm The relevant production in RFC 5122 is: pathxmpp = [ nodeid "@" ] host [ "/" resid ]
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  234. dwd is resid limited to minimum 1 character though?
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  308. theTedd re: "/?join" -- I just copied from one of Dave's mails, so I can claim innocence :D
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  318. pep. :P
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  322. Zash dwd: Minimum 1 byte probably
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  605. edhelas is XEP-0172: User Nickname still used ?
  606. edhelas I'm wondering if some modern clients actively uses that one
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  621. edhelas if not I might remove the +notify in Movim and delete the related column in the db
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  636. lskdjf edhelas, afaik at least conversations and gajim use it
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