XSF logo XSF Discussion - 2019-10-31


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  180. David Cridland Zash, While I appreciate your Council candidacy page, I feel I should remind you that XEP-0028 was found not to be conformant to RFC 5823 - though this was later revisited in RFC 6634.
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  182. Guus https://igniterealtime.org:443/httpfileupload/cde5951a-4db5-484b-92d0-7ba01b854fb3/image.png
  183. !XSF_Martin You have to reapply every three month?
  184. Dave Cridland Every year.
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  186. !XSF_Martin Ok, that's IMHO more reasonable than quarterly.
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  321. ralphm bangs gavel
  322. ralphm 0. Welcome + Agenda
  323. ralphm Hi!
  324. MattJ o/
  325. Seve Hi
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  329. ralphm Guus, nyco?
  330. Seve nyco may not be available, as he had a meeting happening at the same time
  331. Dave Cridland can take minutes.
  332. MattJ <3
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  334. ralphm Dave Cridland: thanks!
  335. ralphm ok, let's go then
  336. ralphm 1. Publicize XSF Financials
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  338. ralphm I'm +1 on this, too, for the record.
  339. ralphm Can we move this item off the board?
  340. MattJ I think so, yes
  341. Seve Yes
  342. ralphm 2. Board / Council Elections
  343. ralphm Current state: 5 for board, 4 for council.
  344. ralphm I read that Guus was going to write a blog post on this?
  345. Guus Ohh, forgot about time
  346. Guus I'm here
  347. Guus sorry
  348. ralphm Guus: DST hell?
  349. Guus No, just busy
  350. MattJ https://github.com/xsf/xmpp.org/pull/626
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  352. Guus blogpost: https://github.com/xsf/xmpp.org/pull/626
  353. Guus Either suggest improvements, or we'll merge here/now?
  354. ralphm Right. So What's the holdup? I notice we're only days away from the deadline.
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  356. Guus There was a request for improvements - I gave feedback, and forgot about the entire thing
  357. ralphm Ok.
  358. Guus Is this good to go, even though pep. asked for a change?
  359. ralphm I understand his comment, was trying to come up with an alternative.
  360. Guus (we did use this exact wording before - I stole it from an older blogpost)
  361. ralphm Yeah, I don't think it is that much of a problem.
  362. ralphm I say just publish it as-is, we don't have more time to wordsmith.
  363. Seve I think it is debatable the time we spend.
  364. Seve Is not a fixed amount of time, I would say.
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  366. ralphm Indeed, some weeks more than others.
  367. Guus That is to much information for such a blogpost.
  368. Guus If what we have is not terribly wrong, let's merge and move on.
  369. ralphm ok
  370. ralphm Let's go
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  372. ralphm 3. Review of Roadmap
  373. ralphm I've just started my new job at Elastic, so yay.
  374. ralphm But didn't get to this.
  375. Guus congrats
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  377. Seve Congratulations ralphm!
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  380. ralphm Will look at it for now +2W, will be in Canada next week.
  381. ralphm 4. AOB
  382. Seve None here
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  385. ralphm FYI, I put in a request for the Realtime Lounge at FOSDEM 2020 again.
  386. Guus Let's hope we can get more space this year!
  387. ralphm Also reminding them of the desire to have more space.
  388. ralphm Right
  389. Guus If someone has ideas for the lounge - this might be a good idea to start working on them
  390. Guus (swag, folders, etc)
  391. Guus If someone has ideas for the lounge - this might be a good tie to start working on them
  392. ralphm Definitely. Also demos.
  393. Guus If someone has ideas for the lounge - this might be a good time to start working on them
  394. Guus (I can't type today)
  395. ralphm no worries
  396. ralphm Ok, if that's it, then:
  397. ralphm 5 Date of Next
  398. ralphm +1W
  399. Guus +1 works for me
  400. MattJ +1
  401. Seve +1
  402. ralphm (but I won't be there, maybe)
  403. Guus kk
  404. ralphm 6. Close
  405. ralphm Happy Halloween!
  406. MattJ :)
  407. ralphm And thanks all.
  408. MattJ Thanks ralphm
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  410. Guus thanks!
  411. Seve Thank you guys!
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  421. Dave Cridland Guus, ralphm - bottle openers, this time with "Open as in Beer" on them?
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  423. Guus wfm 🙂
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  425. ralphm Dude
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  427. Guus Can we think of something something 'Open as in Speech' too? 🙂
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  439. Dave Cridland Pens?
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  442. Guus https://xmpp.org/2019/10/xsf-board-and-council-2019-2020-elections/ is now up, if people want to refer to it in call to actions of their own.
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  456. Ge0rG Is "Proxy voting" an established term outside of the XSF.
  457. Ge0rG Is "Proxy voting" an established term outside of the XSF?
  458. MattJ Yes
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  500. LNJ Does anyone know whether there is a good reference implementation for parsing the XMPP-URIs (https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5122 ) ?
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  533. MattJ Any URI parser should do
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  556. Ge0rG Don't forget to url encode them properly
  557. Ge0rG Rooms in matrix and irc start with #, which is a special character in URLs
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  560. LNJ Ok, i think it works now with proper escaping with Qt's QUrl/QUrlQuery
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  607. Link Mauve What do we currently have for collaborative edition? XEP-0284 for XML, kind of XEP-0301 but that’s only for our own messages, anything else?
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  614. Zash What's https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0204.html
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  618. moparisthebest > This JEP
  619. moparisthebest never noticed that before, wonder how often that happens...
  620. pep. Ah that one. I discovered it a few days ago
  621. Link Mauve Zash, my usecase is a collaborative plain text editor.
  622. Link Mauve Ideally that’ll also be compatible with other collaborative editors, like Inkscape or so.
  623. Zash What's the stuff in Abiword even? IIRC that's XMPP based.
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  625. Link Mauve I’ll have a look.
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  627. Link Mauve Hum, https://www.abisource.com/developers/download.phtml doesn’t support TLS 1.2, and Firefox doesn’t support anything lower nowadays.
  628. moparisthebest "JEP" is only used in in XEP-204, guess it should probably be changed
  629. Zash Patch it
  630. moparisthebest it's in a couple other ones too, but only "JEP to XEP", 0001 talking about what they used to be called, and in the middle of a base64 image, so those don't count
  631. Zash Hah
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  634. Link Mauve Zash, they’re using Telepathy tubes it seems.
  635. Zash Right
  636. Link Mauve I have no recollection of which protocol they are using.
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  639. Link Mauve And here I am, writing threaded C++ code. :(
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  642. Zash Link Mauve, libinfinity btw
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  644. Link Mauve Hmm, I wonder if it might be a better fit than XMPP for this purpose.
  645. Link Mauve Seems quite abandonned though. :/
  646. Link Mauve There are commits from 2015 on the first page, and the latest commit is from 1.5 years ago. :x
  647. Link Mauve Their API documentation is down too: http://infinote.0x539.de/libinfinity/API/libinftext/
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  649. Link Mauve Their automake script even fails…
  650. Link Mauve And now I’m missing Rust a lot, message passing without pattern matching makes me very sad.
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  665. rion Hah one of my subordinates whines every day how terrible c++ in comparison to Rust but he still has to use c++ with boost because of the current project. I don't even know what to answer but I agree with him just wrt boost :)
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  668. rion > And here I am, writing threaded C++ code. :( I hope it's some cool PRECIS implementation 😁
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  684. pep. From XEP-0001, <xs:element name='authornote' type='empty' minOccurs='0'/>, what's this type empty? Is this a hack for something I don't understand? It seems to allow only the empty string value.
  685. pep. hmm. It seems to add a link to an authornote anchor if it exists.
  686. pep. Where are booleans when you need them
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