XSF Discussion - 2020-03-13


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  127. Guus This is not just their problem. If the US (or any other country, for that matter) gets hit hard, the rest of us will feel that too. Individual countries cannot stop this. Not medically, not socially, not economically.
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  140. Ge0rG But we can send latex gloves, size XXS
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  143. emus What I personally don't like is that the experienced Taiwan offered their help, but they (WHO & e.g. EU) refused. Still they expect everyone to listen to their too late recommendations in terms of how quickly Taiwan reacted to everything.
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  372. MattJ MUC hats format bikeshedding, commence: <hat uri="urn:example:foo" label="My Awesome Hat" />
  373. MattJ e.g. do we need xml:lang?
  374. MattJ and do we need multiple labels with different xml:lang?
  375. MattJ or is that something we agreed we should move away from?
  376. Daniel I guess it's less of a problem when the xep is very clear about that and all implementors now that from the beginning
  377. Daniel I still don't like xml:lang very much. But if enums are not an option I don't see a way around them either
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  380. pep. MattJ, let's say we use the language of the room?
  381. pep. That can be multiple :p
  382. MattJ At which point I'd say there should just be a single label
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  416. goffi Can we render older version of a XEP with https://xmpp.org/extensions? I'm checking OMEMO but I need last iteration (0.3) as there were massive changes in last one.
  417. pep. hmm there should be
  418. pep. seems 0.3 is not in the attic
  419. goffi I can still do it manually from the repos, but it would be handy to be able to check it from there.
  420. pep. https://xmpp.org/extensions/attic/xep-0384-0.2.html that's what the url looks like.
  421. pep. But 0.3 is 404, let me see..
  422. pep. https://xmpp.org/extensions/attic/xep-0384-0.3.0.html
  423. pep. that's because I included the .0
  424. pep. Some have it some don't :x
  425. goffi pep.: great thanks!
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  479. jonas’ MattJ, hats?
  480. jonas’ -v please
  481. Zash Hats!
  482. jonas’ I’d say xml:lang labels and use references (or something similar but saner) to mark up the "mention" of the hat?
  483. jonas’ (if hats are like the teams protoxep draft I have uncommitted in my ~/xeps)
  484. Zash Extended affiliations kinda
  485. jonas’ like @iteam?
  486. Zash Mebbe
  487. jonas’ are hats centrally managed or self-assigned?
  488. Zash It Depends
  489. jonas’ if self-assigned, how to avoid slightly different "keys" (be it URIs or labels) from breaking a team formation?
  490. Ge0rG Have a pep node of all existing hat names? Mandate client side auto completion?
  491. jonas’ the latter is clear, but who’d host the pep node?
  492. jonas’ the MUC service?
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  494. jonas’ or the MUC room?
  495. jonas’ hm, service-wide hats and per-room hats?
  496. Zash I imagine the most often it'll be managed by something more central
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  498. pep. I'd want xml:lang tbh. mayeb it <hat xmlns="urn:example:foo"><label /></hat> ? and allow multiple labels. In pratice it will mostly be one, but it doesn't cost you much
  499. pep. I'd want xml:lang tbh. maybe it <hat xmlns="urn:example:foo"><label /></hat> ? and allow multiple labels. In pratice it will mostly be one, but it doesn't cost you much
  500. pep. make it*
  501. jonas’ agreed on xml:lang
  502. MattJ and there I was implementing a single label (+ optional xml:lang)
  503. MattJ > 19:29:39 jonas’> if self-assigned, how to avoid slightly different "keys" (be it URIs or labels) from breaking a team formation? I don't understand the question
  504. jonas’ afk now
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  506. Ge0rG MattJ: I suppose it's about one member having a "gray" hat and another one a "grey"
  507. Zash 🥁️
  508. MattJ Hats are defined by the service/room, and use URIs
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