XSF Communications Team - 2018-02-27

Good news everyone!

You can now sign up for the newsletter: https://xmpp.org/newsletter.html

Who is this tinyletter.com that is requiring me to tell Google what is a shop and what isn’t?

Link Mauve: I look forward to you setting up a FOSS newsletter service for us

Are there logs of the various alternatives you looked at and how you chose this one?

Please don't make this about open source ideology. Let's just actually get something done and have a decent newsletter.

This is the comm teams domain and their choice, if we nit pick and bikeshed every decision they make we won't have a comm team for long.

I asked a simple question, it may be loaded but I’m not objecting to anything.

I mentioned here and in iteam that I'm going to use TinyLetter, which is what I use for one of my personal sites as well. Mostly because they allow unlimited subscribers at no cost

Ok.

Link Mauve, the good thing is, you don't have to sign up. You will be able to just look at the website...of course you can also just look at the wiki since you're in here already ;)

SaltyBones, well, I’d rather subscribe than poll a shitty archive page, which gives the exact same amount of information to the mitm. :p

Link Mauve: FWIW, I originally thought about rolling my own when I needed a newsletter for my own site, but gave up when I realised how much time and effort it would take

Gotta pick your battles

Sure. :)

Guus just made me aware, the link to past newsletter entries returns a 404, that's because there aren't any

What? That was fast, jcbrand thanks

I was checking that too :D

I thought Pelican would show an empty page, but alas...

I'll hide it for now

Seve: I want to send out the newsletter on Friday or otherwise on Monday

So I pushed a bit to get this done

And then send it out once a month I think

if there's enough content to justify more frequent releases, then we could send out more frequently

I'm not sure if we will be able to get something once a month, but would be great

I think we will

All the stuff in the current newsletter is from February I believe

There's quite a bit (spoiler alert): https://github.com/xsf/xmpp.org/blob/master/content/posts/newsletter/2018-03.md

Is there a plan to let random people (from here?) give links they think would be nice for the next newsletter?

Link Mauve: https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/News_and_Articles_for_the_next_XMPP_Newsletter

Ok, so we need a wiki account, but that’s it.

Thanks!

You could also paste here, but there's no 100% guarantee that it'll be noticed

You can paste it here

I will add them

Thanks Seve

Link Mauve, from experience, just sending them to jc also works ;)

ah, should have read the rest of the discussion m)

I was going to ask if it would be interesting if we translate the newsletter (It's not that important if we link to sites that are not translated) But since it's a newsletter, we cannot do that, I guess.

That's a premium service, only for you SaltyBones

What a luxury, SaltyBones.

Concerning non-English content... I do want to include it. Currently there's one German article and it links to a Google Translate English version and the original German version

So that also applies to French Link Mauve

Maybe we could partner with LinuxFR to provide a simultaneous translation in French.

But then we need to maintain two newsletters

They have the tools and community to help with that, they’ve done it for the release of Prosody 0.10 for instance.

Where do people sign up for the french one?

We could link to the french one from the xmpp.org/newsletter.html

The thing is I can translate for spanish and catalan, but that's the problem, having newsletters for each of them. I'm not sure.

Concerning something else... analytics. I think other newsletters include a URL parameter in the links to indicate that themselves as the referrer, so that sites can see that traffic is driven to them from the newsletter

Does anyone know more about how best to do this?

Doesn't tinyletter do that for you?

Perhaps, I actually don't know

Or do you mean checking where other links come from?

Oh..

now I get it

No, I mean adding the referrer to the outgoing links

nevermind ;)

Twitter also does it

(and I hate it with the intensity of a thousand suns)

+1 ;-)

mathieui why?

It's a good advertisement for the newsletter IMO

well, I don’t like being tracked :p, but I understand the rationale

I think it’s utm_source or something

probably website-specific though

mathieui, so turn off referrer? ✏

Yes, utm_source... I've only noticed it in URLs, I don't really know how it works. Is it really tracking though?

You're not being tracked, no one knows who you are, just that 30 people showed up from Google and 10 from xmpp.org, or wherever

I mean this no pixel or whatever tracking :)

SaltyBones, it’s in the URL, so it gets copied even if you didn’t click on a link manually.

jcbrand, https://support.google.com/analytics/answer/1033863

Link Mauve, what do you mean if you didn't click on it manually? How else would you click on it?

automatically ;)

BTW I got confirmation from the company who made it, that I can write a whitepaper and a blog about the use of XMPP at the Belgic emergency services

SaltyBones, I mean, referrer is an HTTP header that is only present if you click on a link from your browser.

winfried: nice

winfried, that's super awesome!

I’m not sure if adding the parameters manually to urls will work, though

maybe ganalytics require the website to create campaigns for that

winfried, awesome!

Piwik/Matomo also looks for utm_source https://matomo.org/faq/general/faq_119/

ok, nice

interesting

things I never knew existed ;)

https://twitter.com/ivucica/status/968538897604075521

SaltyBones: already added 😎

SaltyBones:you'll have to try harder

hey, i'm a crossposting bot that pastes stuff in here

you're a crossposting bot pasting stuff to the wiki from anywhere + here

race conditions happen

...that should be a bumper sticker :p

"race conditions happen" would be an awesome bumper sticker