You can now sign up for the newsletter: https://xmpp.org/newsletter.html
Link Mauve
Who is this tinyletter.com that is requiring me to tell Google what is a shop and what isn’t?
jcbrand
Link Mauve: I look forward to you setting up a FOSS newsletter service for us
Link Mauve
Are there logs of the various alternatives you looked at and how you chose this one?
SamWhited
Please don't make this about open source ideology. Let's just actually get something done and have a decent newsletter.
SamWhited
This is the comm teams domain and their choice, if we nit pick and bikeshed every decision they make we won't have a comm team for long.
Link Mauve
I asked a simple question, it may be loaded but I’m not objecting to anything.
jcbrand
I mentioned here and in iteam that I'm going to use TinyLetter, which is what I use for one of my personal sites as well. Mostly because they allow unlimited subscribers at no cost
Link Mauve
Ok.
SaltyBones
Link Mauve, the good thing is, you don't have to sign up. You will be able to just look at the website...of course you can also just look at the wiki since you're in here already ;)
Link Mauve
SaltyBones, well, I’d rather subscribe than poll a shitty archive page, which gives the exact same amount of information to the mitm. :p
jcbrand
Link Mauve: FWIW, I originally thought about rolling my own when I needed a newsletter for my own site, but gave up when I realised how much time and effort it would take
jcbrand
Gotta pick your battles
Link Mauve
Sure. :)
jcbrand
Guus just made me aware, the link to past newsletter entries returns a 404, that's because there aren't any
Seve
What? That was fast, jcbrand thanks
Seve
I was checking that too :D
jcbrand
I thought Pelican would show an empty page, but alas...
jcbrand
I'll hide it for now
jcbrand
Seve: I want to send out the newsletter on Friday or otherwise on Monday
jcbrand
So I pushed a bit to get this done
jcbrand
And then send it out once a month I think
jcbrand
if there's enough content to justify more frequent releases, then we could send out more frequently
Seve
I'm not sure if we will be able to get something once a month, but would be great
jcbrand
I think we will
jcbrand
All the stuff in the current newsletter is from February I believe
jcbrand
There's quite a bit (spoiler alert): https://github.com/xsf/xmpp.org/blob/master/content/posts/newsletter/2018-03.md
Link Mauve
Is there a plan to let random people (from here?) give links they think would be nice for the next newsletter?
jcbrand
Link Mauve: https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/News_and_Articles_for_the_next_XMPP_Newsletter
Link Mauve
Ok, so we need a wiki account, but that’s it.
Link Mauve
Thanks!
jcbrand
You could also paste here, but there's no 100% guarantee that it'll be noticed
Seve
You can paste it here
Seve
I will add them
jcbrand
Thanks Seve
SaltyBones
Link Mauve, from experience, just sending them to jc also works ;)
SaltyBones
ah, should have read the rest of the discussion m)
Seve
I was going to ask if it would be interesting if we translate the newsletter (It's not that important if we link to sites that are not translated)
But since it's a newsletter, we cannot do that, I guess.
jcbrand
That's a premium service, only for you SaltyBones
Seve
What a luxury, SaltyBones.
jcbrand
Concerning non-English content... I do want to include it. Currently there's one German article and it links to a Google Translate English version and the original German version
jcbrand
So that also applies to French Link Mauve
Link Mauve
Maybe we could partner with LinuxFR to provide a simultaneous translation in French.
jcbrand
But then we need to maintain two newsletters
Link Mauve
They have the tools and community to help with that, they’ve done it for the release of Prosody 0.10 for instance.
jcbrand
Where do people sign up for the french one?
jcbrand
We could link to the french one from the xmpp.org/newsletter.html
Seve
The thing is I can translate for spanish and catalan, but that's the problem, having newsletters for each of them. I'm not sure.
jcbrand
Concerning something else... analytics. I think other newsletters include a URL parameter in the links to indicate that themselves as the referrer, so that sites can see that traffic is driven to them from the newsletter
jcbrand
Does anyone know more about how best to do this?
SaltyBones
Doesn't tinyletter do that for you?
jcbrand
Perhaps, I actually don't know
SaltyBones
Or do you mean checking where other links come from?
SaltyBones
Oh..
SaltyBones
now I get it
jcbrand
No, I mean adding the referrer to the outgoing links
SaltyBones
nevermind ;)
jcbrand
Twitter also does it
mathieui
(and I hate it with the intensity of a thousand suns)
winfried
+1 ;-)
jcbrand
mathieui why?
jcbrand
It's a good advertisement for the newsletter IMO
mathieui
well, I don’t like being tracked :p, but I understand the rationale