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Nÿco
https://movim.eu:5280/upload/1ab8cd5d50a081e2fdf8ce43dca3047f8bd49889/LS7OpBmzeM2ibukQ9FJdXFm7SPrVLhennfav11WD/Capture_d_e_cran_2019-09-12_a__09.40.38.png
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Nÿco
metrics for the Twitter @xmpp account
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SouL
Wow, super good job Nÿco, data definitively helps when making decisions!
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Nÿco
so what do we learn from this? what hypothesis can we raise?
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Nÿco
observation: end 2018 to beg 2019, we tweeted nothing, we still gained followers hypothesis: some of these followers are bots or attention seekers my experience: even dormant accounts gain followers this way
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Nÿco
observation: from march to august, we have tweeted very few, we gain mentions and profile visits hypothesis: tweeting more increases mentions and profile visits my experience: that's mechanical also not shown here or the number of clicks on the link in the profile, this metrics is shown in individual tweets funnel
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Nÿco
note: our Twitter account is only one part of the top of the funnel people visiting our website goes down the funnel
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Nÿco
observation: january is weird as the is a peak for both new followers and impressions hypothesis: as I observe a peal as well on the @GetNayego account, I suppose it's a pattern on the Twitter platform my experience: none, wondering why
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Nÿco
observation: when we tweet, we have a lower number of new followers (note it show the growth, not the indivual number of new followers and unfollowers) hypothesis: this kind of seconds my above hypothesis that our new followers and bots and attention seekers, as they look not interested in our content (rather in our followback)
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Nÿco
my experience: when you follow lots of accounts, lots follow back when you unfollow lots of accounts, lots unfollow back that's mechanical, once again attention seekers, growing their followers numbers
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Nÿco
so as you see, with analytics we learn a little bit, but mostly we can generate hypothesis to experiment...
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Nÿco
to me, we definitely need to publish more regularly on Twitter original content is a big effort, the best RoI, but hard curated content is cool, easy, still a good RoI so I recommend pushing on "the edge" of the community we kindly encourage XMPP contributors to write more regularly their own blog and tweets on @xmpp, we retweet, on the newsletter we relay
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Nÿco
I'm on the newsletter, that's cool, a little help can do
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Nÿco
once we have our LinkedIn account, we could use I suspect we can get more qualified leads here (like my experience shows)
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Nÿco
together, LinkedIn and Twitter can bring traffic to the website, then it would be a necessity to deploy a Matomo
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Nÿco
https://movim.eu:5280/upload/1ab8cd5d50a081e2fdf8ce43dca3047f8bd49889/ddVeMfN84W6bTsYQKcQsW99MoBHrt9IN7dABd7JV/Capture_d_e_cran_2019-09-12_a__11.14.03.png
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Nÿco
impressions in blue above tweets in gray below impressions are the consequence of tweeting (causality, not only correlation)
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Nÿco
https://movim.eu:5280/upload/1ab8cd5d50a081e2fdf8ce43dca3047f8bd49889/TDEsFJNgwtsgYSHSqQk19swEDvJCSpdl4yILsw0I/Capture_d_e_cran_2019-09-12_a__11.23.56.png
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Nÿco
X: tweets Y1: impressions Y2: engagements (like, retweet, reply, click)
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Nÿco
correlation: 10 impressions generate more engagement 20 engagement generate more impressions 30 GOTO 10
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Nÿco
for all tweets this year: * the average engagement rate is: 0.01647637171 * the best engagement rate is: 0.03820033956 * guess which tweet it is... the winner is: https://twitter.com/xmpp/status/1169145821704708097
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Nÿco
2 retweets, 10 likes, 16 URL clicks
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vanitasvitae
Does the xsf already have an official mastodon/activitypub account?
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SouL
vanitasvitae, no we don't as far as I know. What server to choose and such was one of the 'problems'. But we definitively should have one, we can add that to our todo list, thank you
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vanitasvitae
If I recall correctly someone "stole" @xmpp@mastodon.social but offered to hand it over.
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Nÿco
it is possible to have some kind of "xmpp" account on any decentralised (micro)blogging system which one would be more legimitate and identifiable by people as such?
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Nÿco
aaah the benefits of massive centralisation :-/
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Nÿco
also, on the Mastodon universe, what kind of population do we touch?
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Nÿco
how about deploying our own Mastodon, with only one account?
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vanitasvitae
Matrix did the same
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Nÿco
and how does it look?
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SouL
I wanted to explore that way, but that involves iteam...
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Nÿco
yep
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tom
Nÿco, how exactly is the 'engagment rate' calculated?
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tom
Nÿco, it's the Fediverse (ActivityPub) not mastodon universe
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tom
Nÿco, what software you use doesn't really matter as long as it's ActivityPub compliant, GNU Social, Plemora, etc
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tom
MediaGoblin
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Nÿco
engagement is rt + like + click...
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Nÿco
rate is impressions / engagement
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Nÿco
agree about the tool, I'm more concerned of the people we will be able to reach over there who are they? what profile? what's the activity like over there? what can wee gain? what's the effort?
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tom
the best way to get exposure on the fediverse is to engage in conversations to make sure your peering with other people and then to use hashtags
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tom
well that's an EXTREMELY diverse set of cultures there
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Nÿco
cool
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Nÿco
yes, engagement is key, today we do none, we just post, spread the news, raise the awareness, a good way to start
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tom
but you can usually boil it down to a couple of groups. People who don't like twitter so they make the fediverse just like twitter minus the actual company
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Nÿco
engaging the crowds needs engagement on our side (tautology) not sure anyone has energy and time
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tom
and then you have people there for the actual freedom
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tom
if you used to twitter and want to engage on mastodon I'd highly suggest not going about making posts like an organization but an individual. do you know what I mean by that?
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tom
you know forum culture?
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Nÿco
nice to know
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tom
imagine your on an internet forum, and as a individual your telling people about how cool this IM protocol XMPP is for and how to setup various things with it etc
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Nÿco
so an XSF account wouldn't work, is that what you say?
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tom
vs using it like an advertising platform
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tom
there's a level of personalization invloved
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tom
Nÿco, not saying it wouldn't work, just that it doesn't exactly jive with how the fediverse is
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tom
ok for example look at Nextcloud's fediverse presence
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tom
https://mastodon.xyz/@nextcloud
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tom
almost no engagement.
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tom
and then look at the individual developers of the project. Not just that project but take various BSD developers for example as well
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tom
another thing I'd reccomend is if your going to go with the mastodon activitypub implementation, don't get an account at mastodon.social. It's a hotbed for drama and controversy with questionable mangagement policies
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tom
also take a look at https://fediverse.party/ . they do a prett good job at documenting it
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Nÿco
wow, looks like great advice to me
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tom
I think it's a good idea targeting the fediverse crowd. most of the people on there already understand the who federation/decentralization/standardization type thing so all you have to do is show what XMPP can do rather than go through the whole 'why decentralization is important' speech to somebody who doesn't care
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Nÿco
I'm ok for that, I won't manage the content publishing or community engagement over there is someone willing to take that task?
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SouL
I'll take a look at it
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Nÿco
with Twitter, Mastodon and LinkedIn, it become necessary to sync a little, schedule and speak in one voice
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Nÿco
how about we write original content regarding the GSoC we have material, as students have blogged
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Nÿco
Next tweet, scheduled for tomorrow afternoon: Ahead of time, here is a draft version of our 2020 compliance suite: https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/cs-2020.html For each feature: * core or advanced, client or server * core, we, IM, mobile
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Nÿco
please review, and give me the corrections
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Nÿco
thinking of writing a small article: https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/GSoC_2019
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SouL
Nÿco, +1
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SouL
good!