XSF Communications Team

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06:43:33 nyco the dead line is... before the next newsletter? :)
06:44:01 nyco so I'll work on the newsletter, the real one, the one we send by email, that lands in your inbox
06:44:14 nyco meanwhile, how do we want to promote this issue on Twitter?
06:45:01 nyco https://movim.eu:5280/upload/1ab8cd5d50a081e2fdf8ce43dca3047f8bd49889/yBnLRbFARwFNH9oXGtPB9lVsuwUscCsPG1qm3kxS/Capture_d_e_cran_2019-10-01_a__08.44.43.png
06:47:11 nyco my draft/proposition to you for today, like this afternoon: " The XMPP Newsletter is out! Read the latest news from the XMPP/Jabber communities: articles, events, software releases (servers, clients/apps, libraries)... [link] #social #instantmessaging #chat " what illustration?
06:47:54 nyco maybe add a "Please share" or "Please Retweet"?
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09:44:33 nyco I've just pushed "the button" on the newsletter... it is sending now to our 279 subscribers
09:45:21 nyco as a subscriber, I have received it
09:49:16 nyco please merge PR https://github.com/xsf/xmpp.org/pull/614 and deploy on our blog thanks all! it has been a real team effort, I am glad, it's hard but it works
09:51:33 emus nyco: how do you want me to provide the translations?
09:53:36 pep. emus, are you affiliated with jabber.de or sth btw?
09:54:51 ralphm I have received it.
09:57:36 emus pep.: no, why?
09:59:40 pep. Just curious
10:00:09 pep. Do you have a venue to expose the translation like we do with jabberfr maybe? I don't know if xmpp.org has multi-lang support(?)
10:03:56 emus pep.: I dont know what you mean exactly. I have a github account if that help xD
10:04:15 emus But I can also provide it as plain text in german and maybe spanish
10:04:49 pep. emus: I don't know if xmpp.org can expose one article in multiple languages is what I'm saying
10:05:10 pep. For the French translations we publish it on jabberfr.org
10:05:25 emus Ahh, okay. now I understand
10:05:42 emus I can ask the jabber.de guys if they are interested
10:08:56 nyco that would be great
10:09:08 nyco do they have a wiki or some tool to host the translation process?
10:09:36 nyco https://movim.eu:5280/upload/1ab8cd5d50a081e2fdf8ce43dca3047f8bd49889/YNx98Bbor2jwCaIQhyOg6fU2GtsjGQotLpD09XEg/Capture_d_e_cran_2019-10-01_a__12.08.15.png
10:09:36 emus no clue, I guess not. tell me what would be ideal for you
10:09:53 emus I might can arrange
10:09:58 nyco " The XMPP Newsletter is out! Read the latest news from the XMPP/Jabber communities: articles, events, software releases with servers, clients/apps, and services... [link] #social #instantmessaging #chat "
10:22:58 emus nyco: Jabber.de said they re in 😃
10:23:14 nyco es ist gut!
10:23:20 nyco (that's all my German, sorry...)
10:23:29 nyco so feel free, it's CC by-sa
10:23:47 nyco please tell us when it's published so we can cover it on the next issue :)
10:25:55 emus Sure, will check out! try to look if I can do it for spanish aswell
10:26:44 nyco that would be awesome
10:29:13 emus Läuft! 😉
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10:30:24 nyco danke schön!
10:47:03 Martin Speaking of the wiki: Would you be open to use an etherpad or something else supporting markdown for collecting the newsletter topics? That would make it a lot easier to transfer it to pelican.
10:48:51 SouL Yeah, I already raised that matter, we need something with history as well, maybe not to collect the topics but at least to write the newsletter
10:48:59 SouL to allow easier collaboration
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11:49:04 nyco etherpad is cool, but text not markdown, and does not scale
11:49:47 nyco probably link collection on the wiki, then copywriting on a markdown-friendly collab editor
11:50:33 nyco but I'd rather have contributions, and then move to a new tool rather than people asking for a new tool and we migrate without contributions
11:50:33 pep. nyco: "does not scale"?
11:50:37 nyco no
11:51:10 pep. I've had etherpads pads with tens of users without any issues
11:51:47 pep. For collecting links I'm sure it's good enough
11:51:55 pep. And writing the newsletter
11:51:55 nyco in terms of community management, you don't create an empty space, hoping for spontaneous generation of contributors you start with something that is not optimised, then contributors do their thing, then you optimise the processes and tools
11:52:14 nyco I've had the opposite experience
11:54:20 nyco for now, the newsletter is only a link collection... that's not what a newsletter is supposed to be last month we introduced the specs this month we introduced the license and credits what improvements do you want to bring next month?
11:56:28 nyco btw, if the tools we choose are good, we may host the translations efforts as well
12:00:50 nyco what other local Jabber communities can we ask for translations? jabber.pl (dead)? jabber.ru? jabber.at?
12:01:14 nyco btw, for a collab text editor, it should not only support real markdown, but also inline images
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12:07:02 nyco === Planning === November * 2019-10-28 Mon: copywriting starts * 2019-11-01 Fri: end of submission, PR on GitHub * 2019-11-05 Tue: newsletter publication, blog post, promotion tweets
12:07:08 nyco is completing the task list
12:09:36 nyco https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/News_and_Articles_for_the_next_XMPP_Newsletter is ready for November
12:09:53 nyco link collection still done in this wiki page for this month
12:10:11 nyco tool for copywriting in discussion
12:14:15 nyco https://movim.eu:5280/upload/1ab8cd5d50a081e2fdf8ce43dca3047f8bd49889/MASvtHh4orPao6yyJFuKb1pVAnPqAyYVUXCIsJbY/Capture_d_e_cran_2019-10-01_a__14.13.48.png
12:14:23 nyco Twitter this month
12:19:44 emus nyco: would put a sum to the top aswell
12:20:19 nyco sum of what? on top of what?
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12:35:25 nyco > this month we introduced the license and credits oops, and images
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13:00:22 emus nyco: the absolute numbers
13:00:28 emus total subscribers
13:00:28 nyco of what?
13:00:36 emus for example
13:00:57 nyco what are you talking about?
13:01:15 nyco newsletter or Twitter?
13:03:09 nyco https://movim.eu:5280/upload/1ab8cd5d50a081e2fdf8ce43dca3047f8bd49889/Fr2zFdNJVPe8CHSW2Jnhd1e8jzSn8iGuh6lSAb3q/Capture_d_e_cran_2019-10-01_a__15.02.48.png
13:03:16 nyco that's the newsletter
13:03:39 nyco and Twitter:
13:03:50 nyco https://movim.eu:5280/upload/1ab8cd5d50a081e2fdf8ce43dca3047f8bd49889/BKVCnKChFaDNDigyRHKiBxXXP5nXrkOpT6RURPPf/Capture_d_e_cran_2019-10-01_a__15.03.29.png
13:05:12 nyco " The XMPP Newsletter is out! Read the latest news from the XMPP/Jabber communities: articles, events, software releases with servers, clients/apps, and services... https://xmpp.org/2019/10/newsletter-01-october/ #social #instantmessaging #chat "
13:06:58 nyco https://movim.eu:5280/upload/1ab8cd5d50a081e2fdf8ce43dca3047f8bd49889/eVQ3OZRGcxiZrVKQltIK87xMEAjjpEMkDKxMBytA/Capture_d_e_cran_2019-10-01_a__15.06.39.png
13:07:04 nyco tell me if not cool
13:15:00 emus nyco: your smtwitter stats you summed up in that spreadsheet. but is fine. is only for you
13:15:33 nyco smtwitter what?
13:15:48 nyco sorry, I don't get it
13:15:57 nyco I summed nothing, I reported from https://analytics.twitter.com
13:16:44 nyco the current number of followers are in realtime on:https://twitter.com/xmpp
13:16:48 nyco https://twitter.com/xmpp
13:17:13 emus Doesnt matter, forget it. I was referencing to the picture from 2:14pm
13:17:36 nyco ok, but why do you want to report it on the metrics?
13:18:02 emus No, I just thought could improve the overview. but its your thing, no need
13:18:16 nyco it's not only for me, for usall
13:18:32 emus ok
13:19:03 nyco so I don't know he exact number of followers at any given time
13:19:07 nyco it's not available
13:19:15 nyco only the realtime, and it's on https://twitter.com/xmpp
13:19:27 nyco so what would you want to copy-paste and why?
13:20:21 emus 😄 nyco, is fine. I just had a thought. Doesnt matter
13:20:31 nyco ok...
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13:58:40 Daniel Apparently my Dino security analysis ( https://gultsch.de/dino_multiple.html ) didn't fall under this definition of relevancy :-/ > The submission must ideally be a blog or article about XMPP/Jabber and/or XMPP-based software (clients, servers, libs)
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15:53:40 nyco wat
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15:54:51 nyco are you complaining the harsh way, again?
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15:55:21 nyco what is wrong with this? > Multiple vulnerabilities have been found in Dino, please update as soon as possible if you are a Dino user.
15:55:35 nyco pointing to... oh wait! https://gultsch.de/dino_multiple.html
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16:03:00 emus As the newsletter is about communication, I think we might can create a "Call" section. something like: Developer XY from App XY is calling for voluntary Chinese translators... or on specific problems. What do you think about it? It might help to exchange knowledge through the network
16:16:26 nyco I like it
16:25:03 SouL Sounds good!
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16:30:49 nyco how would we select the calls?
16:34:05 SouL It is a bit complicated I think
16:36:08 SouL If we had previous examples it would be easier.
16:36:13 emus I rather think, we look what people send. if there are like > 5 Calls, we need a process
16:36:30 emus if there are only barely people useing it, thats it
16:40:32 emus I would go first for an announcement that we plan this opportunity
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