XSF Communications Team - 2019-10-04

emus: no you can't. It's anschnallen

Not beschleunigen

Oder befestigen

ok danke, ist eh noch nicht reviewed bzw. online

Do you put the translation in a vcs so we can review and make PRs?

I was also considering translating the newsletter to german but you were faster. 😃

Martin: is fine, do the stuff I cannot do or what is more advanced. If you show me a place where to upload I can do so

Up to you. Xsf uses github for the newsletter. I don't know if it would make sense to also have translations in their repo. nyco what do you think? ✏

whatever you think is right. Github would be fine for me

nyco: There is one guy having an unbelievable innovative suggestion/request: Why not sending the newsletter also through XMPP? 😂 ok srysly, why not? could be a read only group^^

Yeah I believe that should also be done. There could be a pubsub server on xmpp.org for this

> Yeah I believe that should also be done. There could be a pubsub server on xmpp.org for this For what exactly now?

The newsletter via xmpp?

What you said

Yeah

ok

Is there a todo list in the wiki?

> whatever you think is right. Github would be fine for me Then push it to github, let us have a look at it and if someone of the xsf wants to have it in their repo as well they can easily pull it.

but why pull? I meant you said I need to find another pub'ish as xsf cannot do it?

publisher

Martin: yeah, atm I don't think it's possible to publish multiple languages for one article. Somebody needs to put in the work and see if pelican can support that

emus: I don't talk about publishing there. But maybe the want to put the translation somewhere in their repo for the sake of completeness. 😃

ok

Regarding publishing: Did you reach jabber.de guys?

Martin: yes, they are happy to do so

Great, thx.

“12:05:10 pep.> For the French translations we publish it on jabberfr.org”, also on LinuxFR.org.

>> nyco> it is not about agreeing, it is about doing the right thing >Then yes it is about agreeing on what the right thing is.. still wrong it is about experimenting what users like/want

can you please stop the fight? it's boring...

> cool - then the first translation to German is done! SLIGHTLY SMILING FACE Good thing on the German unification day GRINNING FACE OH YEAH, cool! is it published somewehere? emus

> Up to you. Xsf uses github for the newsletter. I don't know if it would make sense to also have translations in their repo. nyco what do you think? what's best for translators and publishers?

> nyco: There is one guy having an unbelievable innovative suggestion/request: Why not sending the newsletter also through XMPP? FACE WITH TEARS OF JOY > ok srysly, why not? could be a read only group^^ great idea! let's try it! where and how? I guess the links will be broken though

https://docs.getpelican.com/en/stable/index.html#features Features Pelican 4 currently supports: [...] Publication of articles in multiple languages [...]

actually, we (XSF) could host the translations? not sure, need to check more in detail at what cost/effort should we do it? not sure, imho it is cool than local communities who do the work host the article do translations need to be published at the same time as the original? not for me

emus: Did you upload it somewhere already?

I was busy molesting debacle to do a debian xmpp team blog post to advertise the newsletter. :D

Martin wow, great idea!

I mean... not molesting! :)

so, the DE version of the newsletter is ready, the FR just started... :)

call to translators: if we need to rephrase the English version before it is published, in order to ease all/most translations, then let's just do that, ok?

also, question to translations: what format do you need? Mediawiki markup? Markdown? HTML? other?

Martin: no, working atm

jabber.de seems to be using wordpress. No idea if they still use their own markup or work with markdown now.

nyco: I can translate afterwards. I recomment to just link ala The German version will be publish in the next days overhere: jabber. de/abcde

Martin: will figure out

nyco: Html said Sven is goo

good

emus: No rush. The publishing for proof reading is also only an offer, like 4-2*x eyes principle. If you think it is good as is you can also just publish it.

Martin: ok, PM your mail and I can send you the German one for review. I just made it in a text document for the monent

moment

hey, translations can be worked on the wiki as well (in addition to the Git repo)

pep. JabberFr wants/prefers what format?

translators: I think JabberFr usually does the translations on an Etherpad, but I've just participated once

> hey, translations can be worked on the wiki as well (in addition to the Git repo) > pep. JabberFr wants/prefers what format? can you send me a link, so I dont need to search where

emus we collect links here: https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/News_and_Articles_for_the_next_XMPP_Newsletter but maybe you can create a page, linking from: https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/CommTeam

actually, wait :)

https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/News_and_Articles_for_the_next_XMPP_Newsletter#Process

so: https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/index.php?title=French_translation_of_the_newsletter&action=edit&redlink=1

https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/index.php?title=German_translation_of_the_newsletter&action=edit&redlink=1

https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/index.php?title=Spanish_translation_of_the_newsletter&action=edit&redlink=1

you can use them... or not

cool

nyco: problem: how do I get an account?^^

ah

ask the iTeam

ok

or use whatever tool is best for your translation team

I have it in a text document at the moment. need to talk to Sven, he is on vacation as he doesnt reply I think

Jabberfr uses WordPress and I can't seem to be able to escape the crappy wysiwyg, so any format will do as I have to translate it anyway

Yes, I dont see the big problem with it for the moment. I`d suggest, if we hit the 1000 subcribers point, we should rediscuss the system, also to include multilanguage

pep. in my WordPresses, I can always switch to HTML: you can't?

thats what Sven from Jabber.de said aswell

he asked for HTML

I don't know, arnaudj might know better, I'm not WordPress expert

Hehe, seems like opening the newsletter is a lot of hassle for nyco but also pays out. 😃

indeed, it has greatly improved imho

> nyco: problem: how do I get an account?^^ Ge0rg gave me an account

good

emus do you have a wiki account as well?

So far he sent me an odt via email and I added my comments. But maybe for the next one we can use the wiki so more people can participate. Slowly but steady improving. 😃 ✏

great, good mindset :)

btw, maybe we can split that page: https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/News_and_Articles_for_the_next_XMPP_Newsletter

we keep that content: 1 To contributors, editors, reviewers, translators 1.1 Live discussion 1.2 What determines relevancy? 1.3 Process 1.4 Planning

and we move this part to a dedicated page, that changes every month: 2 Submissions for next newsletter

this "central" page would be much lighter and would not move a lot, only updates in the process that happen not that often

and there would be no need to empty the content each month, to restart

for the per-newsletter pages, there would be on per month: we create it at the beginning of the moth, it grows, and then it's finished at the end of the month

what do you think? SouL emus Martin

also, each per-month page can have its subpage per translation

Sounds reasonable. People interested in participating are not scared away by an empty wiki page when first looking and have all necessary information (relevancy, process) at hand.

> emus do you have a wiki account as well? not yet

> what do you think? SouL emus Martin i didnt full understand your plan and i am maybe to new to this to make a decent statement. I dont really care, youre probably right and is fine