As someone who recently lost all his bookmarks, I don't mind having a list of "XSF-internal" MUC rooms.
Guus
But on our public website, I'd focus on rooms that are of interest to the intended audience.
Guus
I don't think that the SCAM and Communication Teams MUCs are that.
Guus
mabye create the list on the wiki instead?
SouL
If that list is required, I would maybe keep it in the wiki and not in the website. I would rather keep workteams as something internal for the XSF, I don't see the value of random internet people joining this room
SouL
I see Guus was faster than me
Guus
Well, I don't mind showing that we're an open organisation but I don't think that listing them helps the intended audience finding the correct place to find help.
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Nÿco
I find these arguments relevant, still I remain hesistant
Nÿco
anyway, that twice -1 vs only one 0
SouL
Nÿco, what about you?
Nÿco
"hesitant", would vote 0 (not +1 not -1)
Guus
What would be the benefit of having these MUCs listed on the public website, for the intended audience?
Nÿco
as you said, transparency
I'd love to have audience feedback, qualitative rather than quantitative
Nÿco
it lowers the barrier of entry
Nÿco
someone who would want to suggest just drops a short message on our MUC
Guus
As an alternative to the alternative that I've suggested on Github (which would still work for me): Maybe add the MUCs to the pages of the individual Work Teams?
Guus
and/or do both.
Nÿco
easier than getting an account to modify the wiki, easier than creating a PR or reporting an issue on GitHub
Guus
I'd not add them to https://xmpp.org/community/chat.html without making it very clear that these rooms are mostly 'internal' (I prefer to not have them listed at all on that page)
Nÿco
right, forgot that
Guus
You don't need an account to read the wiki
Guus
only to change it.
Nÿco
read, but not write
Nÿco
still, providing feedback to the XSF is difficult
Nÿco
generally
Nÿco
not only comm
Guus
giving people more options isn't always an improvement.
Nÿco
I'm diverging
Guus
regardless, I'm not feeling very strongly about this either way.
Guus
I'd personally not add them, but I'm fine with them being added.
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SouL
Hmm
SouL
It would maybe fit best on the contact page
SouL
like if workteams where specific departments (Human resources, public relations, etc)
so maybe I'd do Conversations Thu and Converse Fri?
Guus
v5.0.5 fixes a very nasty bug that effectively silently drops messages. If we're going to mention the release, doing it sooner rather than later is good.
Nÿco
like "now"?
Guus
I'm still not sold on the idea that we're publishing content for other projects in the first place, but I'll leave that to you for now 🙂
Nÿco
I'd rather relay JC's announces
Guus
nah, no need to rush-rush things
Guus
but I'd suggest moving it up to the pile of scheduled things.
Nÿco
I know you're not convinced, I am not yet either to be completely honest
this is only experimentation
we'll see the reception
Guus
as this update being deployed will benefit the XMPP ecosystem as a whole
Guus
fair enough
Nÿco
btw, I'll deploy it rght away :)
Nÿco
deployed
Nÿco
CDNs rock
Guus
Yeah, for Openfire we need a small wrapper
Guus
I'm trying to get anyone-but-me to do that, to reduce the bus factor of that
Nÿco
https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Twitter_and_Mastodon_content
for transparency and co-construction
Nÿco
https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/index.php?title=CommTeam/Newsletter_Twitter_campaign&redirect=no#Draft_tweets
are still usefull
Nÿco
otherwise, still talking about sharing and building together, how about we sync the CommTeam on a Trello board?
SouL
Perfect!!
Guus
Although I don't have an immediate better alternative, I'd not use the term 'diverse' as is done in those templates. These days, 'diverse' mostly refers to diversity in context of race, ethnicity, gender, sexual orientation.✎
Guus
Although I don't immediately have a better alternative, I'd not use the term 'diverse' as is done in those templates. These days, 'diverse' mostly refers to diversity in context of race, ethnicity, gender, sexual orientation. ✏
Nÿco
where do you see "diverse"?
Guus
Draft tweets, last one
Guus
> XMPP is Diverse - you will never get "locked in" when using XMPP technologies. As an example, you have plenty of options to choose from when looking for a XMPP client. https://xmpp.org/software/clients.html
Guus
Maybe re-use these terms? https://xmpp.org/about/technology-overview.html