emusHello everyone,
tonight I am trying to set the Newsletter Draft to review. So if you have anything to add or mention, please consider rather today then the next days. I would like to close to release by Sunday (5th). Then everyone should have been able to review and can go on with translations, social media posts etc.
emusAlso: are there any open PRs which haven't been merged yet?
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MartinProfanity released a 0.9.5 yesterday.
peetahdon't know if DebXWoody or someone else added it already, but profanity released 0.9.5
peetah:)
MartinMaybe someone can add it, I am not at my computer today.
emusMartin: ok, but thats july
MartinHe, true.
peetahemus: that's border line june :)
emusPlease only June topic for now
emusyes, but is okay, we will put that to the next one
emusBut if you create a PR and just sneak it in, I might dont see it 😋
emusYeah, but to be honest. lets just try keep it separated
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wurstsalatemus, since it’s july already, you could also open a new PR :)
jcbrandI'm sorry everyone but I forgot to put xmpp.work into the newsletter, did someone perhaps do that already?
wurstsalatjcbrand, it’s mentioned already
jcbrandGreat, thanks
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emuswurstsalat: Yes I knew, hadnt had time yet
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emusHi mdosch - 22 days ago 😀 you wrote in the Draft: "s/fix/fixes"
emusWhat do you meant to do?
emuspeetah - would you mind to write short line on this? My french was back in school 🙈️
emus"Journal : Quicksy la messagerie instantanée libre basée sur XMPP facile"
Means: "Journal: Quicksy the free instant messagingbased on easy XMPP"
https://linuxfr.org/users/space_e_man/journaux/quicksy-la-messagerie-instantanee-libre-basee-sur-xmpp-facile
peetahok
emuscool, thanks. you can just drop it here
emusif that is easier for you
Martin> Hi mdosch - 22 days ago 😀 you wrote in the Draft: "s/fix/fixes"
> What do you meant to do?
Probably somewhere was written fix instead of fixes. No idea, maybe I fixed it already.
emuswill search for it
emusgot it
emusabout profanity: I think there are so much releases for the June - we will add July's ones to July
emusokay?
emuswurstsalat - the XEP section is complete? thank you very much for this summaries!
wurstsalatemus, yes, I think so
emusAlright.
emuspeetah I see you typing all the time - you don't need to put a lot efforts in this or big text - not that I don't want it but just to keep work low for you
peetahLinuxfr.org user Space_e_man proposed his short overview of [Quicksy the easy XMPP based libre instant messaging platform](https://linuxfr.org/users/space_e_man/journaux/quicksy-la-messagerie-instantanee-libre-basee-sur-xmpp-facile). While the article itself concentrates on the reasons why it should be prefered to other proprietary solutions, the comments of linuxfr.org users, as usual, bring a lot of various points of view, as well as alternatives.
peetahI type anytime and whatever I want, you lurker ! ;)
Licaon_Kterpeetah: points of view full of FUD lol
https://linuxfr.org/users/space_e_man/journaux/quicksy-la-messagerie-instantanee-libre-basee-sur-xmpp-facile#comment-1816041
Nobody corrected them..yeah...great...
emus> I type anytime and whatever I want, you lurker ! 😉
emus😂️
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emusThank you!
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emusguys, shall I add ignites openfire beta and smack alpha release? I guess not, right?
emusor only the beta announcement?
peetahbeta and alpha need to announced to bring testers
peetahbeta and alpha need to be announced to bring testers
emusokay, but I'm not sure if we shall mentional all alpha and beta releases in general 🤔️
wurstsalatwhy not beta? for gajim this was ok
emusI keep this for the beta only okay?
emusyes ^
emusok
peetahfine
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emusReady for review - I forgot all you contributors by now - will do that - but if anyone is happy and quicker to do so you are welcome! https://github.com/xsf/xmpp.org/pull/714
pep.Licaon_Kter, quicksy has OMEMO enabled by default right? Just like C
pep.I'm considering replying
pep.(Why am I even doing this..)
peetahmasochistic tendencies ?
pep.I guess so
peetahLicaon_Kter: you are pointing a comment that is not even XMPP related right ?
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peetahah no, the one answering the one you are pointing is about quicksy vs signal
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pep.ugh this quicksy thread.. It's a pain to read as somebody who knows how it's done. They see that as yet-another-messaging-app, which.. is fine because that's what devs are trying to do somewhat now, but that has the disadvantage that people trying to look for alternatives won't even look at Conversations after complaining about Quicksy fetching Contact details
pep.(that's the whole point!)
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Martinpep.: As I see movim is also mentioned there so it seems they got the link between quicksy and xmpp. But I'm only guessing as it is frencrypted.
emusTbh I don`t wonder they dont get the full picture
pep.as it's frencrypted?
emusNo, as its hard to understand xmpp (universe) if you havent heard about it I think
MartinNot everybody needs the full picture. If some are happy with quicksy as it is it's good enough for the happy nerd who can contact them from his full XMPP picture.
emusunderstand and see
pep.emus, yeah that's not exactly what I'm trying to say
emusMartin: Sure, rather a general point
emuspep.: ok, nevermind. was just saying in general
pep.Trying to get away from advertising XMPP isn't bad, but then it's fun to see that people will recommend "Jami" because it's fully open-source and doesn't read your contacts, instead of "Conversations" which is quicksy but different
MartinOk, that's indeed not what I have in mind when I say stuff like quicksy which is hiding the xmpp complexity from users os a good thong for some target groups. 😐
emusbut what I said is actually a legit point in my view in general. Yesterday a friend was claiming how much she hates monal and xmpp - bonus: it was just my server having an issue telling her "remote server error"
my friends also say that conversations does work for one friend... who uses Monal 😅
emusbut what I said is actually a legit point in my view in general. Yesterday a friend was claiming how much she hates monal and xmpp - bonus: it was just my server actually having an issue telling her "remote server error"
my friends also say that conversations does work for one friend... who uses Monal 😅
MartinPeople are so used to service=provider=app in im whereas they understand email with different providers and clients.
MartinSometimes I wonder what we did wrong to reach this point. Probably the point where people started using im on Smartphones and xmpp was not yet ready there. Smartphones brought a lot of people to im who previously didn't chat at the computer.
emusI know, thats what I am critizing
pep.Ok I answered.. I should have done that saturday because tomorrow (friday) is when people get all in, on this website
emusMartin: and actually what I would like to change
MartinThat's pretty difficult now due to the network effect. Why should I use this where only you are? You better install WhatsApp where everyone else is. 🤮
emusI know, but there is potential in my view
MartinHope you have some good ideas. 😃
emus🙂
Licaon_Kterpep.: omemo was "on by default" at launch...but...it was switched to Always at one point.
pep.yeah so from a user standpoint it's the same if they don't touch anything
Licaon_Kterpep.: yes, secure by default, files too.
The "send encrypted omemo message" hint has some reassuring...but....somehow then you'd just do an 180 and..."I guess files are not encrypted?!??!?"
Not the first time I see such a comment, not sure why.