XSF Communications Team

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06:46:13 peetah the newsletter made it to HackerNews: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23775577
07:08:12 pep. HN gonna HN.. “XMPP doesn't "work"”
07:11:39 pep. and then it's back on why XMPP isn't popular or doomed etc. /me closes the page
07:15:13 peetah ~~is Nyco the only member of the CommTeam able to email the newsletter ?~~ ✎
07:17:44 peetah is Nÿco the only member of the CommTeam able to email the newsletter ? ✏
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07:26:38 Martin lol HN > It's not as "easy" as running an email server and no one wants to do that either. I find setting up a decent email server is a lot more complicated than running an xmppd.
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07:33:37 SouL peetah, jcbrand too
07:35:36 peetah SouL: and none of them seems available for the moment :(
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07:43:16 emus Martin: Maybe thats a good suggestion for an article. If there are so many myths about XMPP
07:43:40 emus ~~I would do it if one would provide the credidentials to mw~~ ✎
07:43:46 emus I would do it if one would provide the credidentials to me ✏
07:46:28 pep. There was the homebrewserverclub tutorial that was good (and got a prosody team stamp :p)
07:47:58 emus I think we should publish continiously to that community
07:59:53 Martin Maybe jcbrand can share his experiences: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23777472
08:00:38 emus I think he did alreafy
08:00:51 emus Ah ok
08:00:54 emus nevermind
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08:51:10 alkino hello, I come to discuss with peace of the newletters
08:51:29 alkino as the news are in a lot of different languages, do you think it is possible to make a short description of them in the news?
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08:57:48 vanitasvitae alkino: a short description of the languages?
08:57:52 vanitasvitae Or what do you mean?
08:58:34 alkino a short description of the news / video linked
08:58:37 Martin emus: jcbrand is asking for your jid to send you credentials
08:58:39 alkino in the main news
08:59:02 jcbrand emus: my JID is jc@opkode.com
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09:02:20 emus Martin: Thanks!
09:03:58 emus alkino: We actually try to summarize shortly. However, we often dont speak the language ourselves 😐 So you might need to use a translator software or ask someone for help. However, we are happy to have new contributors to helpout with this
09:04:35 alkino I will stick here, if you got french news, ask me
09:05:05 vanitasvitae 👍
09:09:50 emus alkino: Cool! Feel free to review our draft PR on github as well
09:10:12 alkino send it to me? for the moment I only read the french translation
09:12:00 emus alkino: https://github.com/xsf/xmpp.org/pull/730
09:12:08 alkino thx
09:12:25 emus Thank *you*!
09:12:49 alkino `Everyone participating, please just don't drop links - rather try to make a short and decent formulated description what is the main outcome of your source`
09:12:51 alkino ahah
09:13:54 emus we mean plain links without anything. Be we also dont want very long texts I think (do we not?)
09:13:56 vanitasvitae By the way in that paragraph, you should swap "just" and "don't"
09:14:16 emus yep
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09:15:01 alkino @emus, I know, you have to keep it really short, but sometimes, you don't know what the video / link is about, and you have to use a translator for it, I guess if you're not really in XMPP you won't do that
09:21:07 emus But with what article/video summary did you not have been happy with?
09:22:11 Licaon_Kter alkino: is this about not being able to read English but don't want to use translator?
09:23:01 emus Is fine Licaon_Kter
09:30:45 pep. Licaon_Kter, I can understand it's a bit frustrating being told "Hey there's this article here, go figure it out yourself" (somewhat)
09:31:00 alkino pep : +1
09:31:03 alkino my english is bad
09:32:08 alkino if you have a short description, I can decide to - not read because I don't care, - read the summary of the article because I care a bit - read the whole article with a translator because the topic looks really cool!
09:32:11 Licaon_Kter pep.: right...plenty of those is German around this ecosystem, so I do as expected....find a way to translate
09:32:41 Licaon_Kter alkino: translate the whole letter text then...
09:32:58 Licaon_Kter You can usually feed the link directly
09:33:17 Licaon_Kter Eg. Not on deepl.com but translate.google or .bing
09:33:21 alkino yes, but if there is 10 obscure links, of course I will not do
09:33:46 alkino often I translate the third first that looks interestring to me, and I don't translate following
09:34:20 alkino it depends on how many time I want to spend on XMPP newsletter
09:34:27 alkino do you understand my point of view?
09:35:08 Licaon_Kter alkino: are we lost in translation? I just said I do
09:35:25 alkino ok, I'm lost on translation, possibly ^^
09:35:36 Licaon_Kter > right...plenty of those is German around this ecosystem, so I do as expected....find a way to translate alkino: ^^^^
09:35:58 alkino what I understand about your point of view is "you could translate all links and read them all"
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09:39:30 Licaon_Kter Yes, else I'd find it odd to scroll 4-5 summaries for each entry. Also, it takes time to translate and as you can see the montly newsletters has odd releases skipping months :)
09:40:14 Licaon_Kter alkino: are there translations in your language, or your native one is not DE or FR or SP?
09:40:33 alkino my native one is FR
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09:44:34 Licaon_Kter Ok, then wait for that team to finish it. Here, read this in the mean time: https://cnnumerique.fr/Interoperabilite_Concurrence_Etude ;)
09:48:13 emus alkino: Yes, that is actually the point. We have a continiuos assembly for the French version. I would ask people to head and wait for the translations. Isnt that the best outcome?
09:49:33 alkino yes
09:51:56 emus I think peetah and supporters are doing a good job with that
09:52:36 emus alkino: But you are invited to make contributions to the current and upcoming releases!
09:52:47 alkino I will ^^
09:53:00 alkino discretely adding description when I feel the need :p
09:53:06 alkino peer review will do the rest
09:53:19 alkino I subscribed to the PR, I will miss nothing :p
09:53:30 emus 👍
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15:04:49 DebXWoody Is there a link to about/xsf/mission.html on the website?
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15:15:09 pep. DebXWoody, not in evidence anywhere I don't think so
15:15:14 pep. We should change that indeed
15:15:23 pep. Or maybe even not at all
15:15:57 pep. (not linked at all*)
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15:20:35 pep. Ah it's linked from a few blog articles and from the roadmap
15:25:38 pep. But the roadmap is linked from nowhere?
15:26:27 emus pep.: What should be done in yiew?
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15:27:45 pep. I like that there was a roadmap before
15:27:54 pep. https://xmpp.org/about/xsf/roadmap
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16:08:55 DebXWoody The roadmap and the mission page are nice pages.
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17:03:19 emus Me too, even I know roadmaps are to liked in Development. But we should do have something which guides
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20:45:15 emus Newsletter via Email is out to more than 400 subscribers 📬️
20:45:37 DebXWoody +1 thx
20:47:38 peetah great !
20:47:44 peetah thanks
20:48:57 Martin Hmm, I already said that this should be scrubbed in the email version as people having it in the inbox already subscribed > Subscribe to the newsletter > We suggest you to subscribe to receive the next editions in your inbox as soon as it is published! Promote this newsletter to whoever may be interested. But thanks for sending.
20:49:52 pep. hah, right
20:51:06 Martin People might end up subscribing again. 🧐
20:54:19 emus Haha - okay we will put this to the end review for the next release, okay?
20:54:29 emus PRs welcome as always
20:55:26 peetah ~~emus: I don't thinl that is the point: the sent newsletter has to be slightly different from the web published one~~ ✎
20:55:38 peetah emus: I don't think that is the point: the sent newsletter has to be slightly different from the web published one ✏
20:55:39 Martin It can remain on the blogpost, just remove it for the email. Maybe add it to the process checklist if something like that exists.
20:55:43 emus Yes, I understood
20:56:31 emus In the wiki I think, I try to extract it from there
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