XSF Communications Team - 2020-07-09

the newsletter made it to HackerNews: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23775577

HN gonna HN.. “XMPP doesn't "work"”

and then it's back on why XMPP isn't popular or doomed etc. /me closes the page

is Nÿco the only member of the CommTeam able to email the newsletter ? ✏

lol HN > It's not as "easy" as running an email server and no one wants to do that either. I find setting up a decent email server is a lot more complicated than running an xmppd.

peetah, jcbrand too

SouL: and none of them seems available for the moment :(

Martin: Maybe thats a good suggestion for an article. If there are so many myths about XMPP

I would do it if one would provide the credidentials to me ✏

There was the homebrewserverclub tutorial that was good (and got a prosody team stamp :p)

I think we should publish continiously to that community

Maybe jcbrand can share his experiences: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23777472

I think he did alreafy

Ah ok

nevermind

hello, I come to discuss with peace of the newletters

as the news are in a lot of different languages, do you think it is possible to make a short description of them in the news?

alkino: a short description of the languages?

Or what do you mean?

a short description of the news / video linked

emus: jcbrand is asking for your jid to send you credentials

in the main news

emus: my JID is jc@opkode.com

Martin: Thanks!

alkino: We actually try to summarize shortly. However, we often dont speak the language ourselves 😐 So you might need to use a translator software or ask someone for help. However, we are happy to have new contributors to helpout with this

I will stick here, if you got french news, ask me

👍

alkino: Cool! Feel free to review our draft PR on github as well

send it to me? for the moment I only read the french translation

alkino: https://github.com/xsf/xmpp.org/pull/730

thx

Thank *you*!

`Everyone participating, please just don't drop links - rather try to make a short and decent formulated description what is the main outcome of your source`

ahah

we mean plain links without anything. Be we also dont want very long texts I think (do we not?)

By the way in that paragraph, you should swap "just" and "don't"

yep

@emus, I know, you have to keep it really short, but sometimes, you don't know what the video / link is about, and you have to use a translator for it, I guess if you're not really in XMPP you won't do that

But with what article/video summary did you not have been happy with?

alkino: is this about not being able to read English but don't want to use translator?

Is fine Licaon_Kter

Licaon_Kter, I can understand it's a bit frustrating being told "Hey there's this article here, go figure it out yourself" (somewhat)

pep : +1

my english is bad

if you have a short description, I can decide to - not read because I don't care, - read the summary of the article because I care a bit - read the whole article with a translator because the topic looks really cool!

pep.: right...plenty of those is German around this ecosystem, so I do as expected....find a way to translate

alkino: translate the whole letter text then...

You can usually feed the link directly

Eg. Not on deepl.com but translate.google or .bing

yes, but if there is 10 obscure links, of course I will not do

often I translate the third first that looks interestring to me, and I don't translate following

it depends on how many time I want to spend on XMPP newsletter

do you understand my point of view?

alkino: are we lost in translation? I just said I do

ok, I'm lost on translation, possibly ^^

> right...plenty of those is German around this ecosystem, so I do as expected....find a way to translate alkino: ^^^^

what I understand about your point of view is "you could translate all links and read them all"

Yes, else I'd find it odd to scroll 4-5 summaries for each entry. Also, it takes time to translate and as you can see the montly newsletters has odd releases skipping months :)

alkino: are there translations in your language, or your native one is not DE or FR or SP?

my native one is FR

Ok, then wait for that team to finish it. Here, read this in the mean time: https://cnnumerique.fr/Interoperabilite_Concurrence_Etude ;)

alkino: Yes, that is actually the point. We have a continiuos assembly for the French version. I would ask people to head and wait for the translations. Isnt that the best outcome?

yes

I think peetah and supporters are doing a good job with that

alkino: But you are invited to make contributions to the current and upcoming releases!

I will ^^

discretely adding description when I feel the need :p

peer review will do the rest

I subscribed to the PR, I will miss nothing :p

👍

Is there a link to about/xsf/mission.html on the website?

DebXWoody, not in evidence anywhere I don't think so

We should change that indeed

Or maybe even not at all

(not linked at all*)

Ah it's linked from a few blog articles and from the roadmap

But the roadmap is linked from nowhere?

pep.: What should be done in yiew?

I like that there was a roadmap before

https://xmpp.org/about/xsf/roadmap

The roadmap and the mission page are nice pages.

Me too, even I know roadmaps are to liked in Development. But we should do have something which guides

Newsletter via Email is out to more than 400 subscribers 📬️

+1 thx

great !

thanks

Hmm, I already said that this should be scrubbed in the email version as people having it in the inbox already subscribed > Subscribe to the newsletter > We suggest you to subscribe to receive the next editions in your inbox as soon as it is published! Promote this newsletter to whoever may be interested. But thanks for sending.

hah, right

People might end up subscribing again. 🧐

Haha - okay we will put this to the end review for the next release, okay?

PRs welcome as always

emus: I don't think that is the point: the sent newsletter has to be slightly different from the web published one ✏

It can remain on the blogpost, just remove it for the email. Maybe add it to the process checklist if something like that exists.

Yes, I understood

In the wiki I think, I try to extract it from there