DarkiJah: what you're doing is close to spam; if you want to be useful, write a blog post about Pix Art that could be linked in the newsletter, or contribute a PR about the last released 2.5.x versions
DarkiJah
peetah: https://JesusIsGodAlmighty.Life/Birdie.php I'm on it :)✎
DarkiJah
peetah: https://JesusIsGodAlmighty.Life/birdie.php I'm on it :) ✏
DarkiJah
Small b in Birdie. My bad.
DarkiJah
https://jesusisgodalmighty.life/birdie.php
Martin
Was there an agreement to call xmpp birdie?
peetah
oh, did not see that you were *that* DarkiJah … I, for sure, won't include a link to a proselytist web site in the newsletter
DarkiJah
Martin: well... I think it is the way to go, I will go with it and see if something can come out of it so we can get some more people on this platform :)
DarkiJah
peetah: no worries, no one forces you to do anything. But I'm waiting for converse 7 for the website and then need to make a newbie manual for getting started quickly.
DarkiJah
Need to figure out what server to recommend as well for user account.
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Need more experience and Data points on that.
DarkiJah
peetah: I think I'm the only DarkiJah on the internet you know :)
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DarkiJah: Please stick to topic related content.
vanitasvitae
Martin, no there was no such agreement. And I doubt there will be.
pep.
There is no agreement anyway
vanitasvitae
yeah
pep.
People use whatever they want. Some use Jabber, some use XMPP, some use Jabber/XMPP, some use zimpy, some use birdie
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vanitasvitae
*one uses birdie 😛
pep.
Sure. Not that I'm defending this one, but it's the same :)
Licaon_Kter
He's just spamming all channels with this made up "better than xmpp" name that he mindstormed one day on another channel.
vanitasvitae
peetah, do you still need a few words for the XEP-0420 changes?
pep.
Licaon_Kter, just ignore it..
peetah
vanitasvitae: yes please, I would like to understand how each items of the update log have an impact on clients, servers and/or simple users
vanitasvitae
well, given that nobody is implementing 0420 yet... 😛
pep.
peetah, probably "not" at the moment
vanitasvitae
One change allows for increased entropy when using random padding, which should marginally increase security.
vanitasvitae
Another modification corrects the definition of which elements are allowed/forbidden inside the encrypted payload. The earlier definition was wrong, so this is more a "bugfix" 😛
vanitasvitae
(this was about the first line about origin-id elements)
vanitasvitae
So those are very minor changes altogether.
peetah
the idea is to make this section less cryptic for newcomers, so that they do not feel the newsletter is only for hardcore devs
peetah
ok so it is very much a WIP for now
peetah
but these info already makes this update more end-user friendly
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peetah
thanks vanitasvitae
vanitasvitae
Basically it boils down to "0.3.0 of XEP-0420 made some changes to the guidelines of which elements are allowed/denied to be encrypted. There also has been a change that should marginally increase security by increasing the entropy of random padding elements."
Licaon_Kter
vanitasvitae: 👍
DarkiJah
> vanitasvitae wrote:
> *one uses birdie 😛
For now :)
DarkiJah
> Licaon_Kter wrote:
> He's just spamming all channels with this made up "better than xmpp" name that he mindstormed one day on another channel.
XMPP name is utter terrible and catesthrophic... Really... I'm far from the only one who points it out guys.
pep.
Because it's not the point. Users don't have to hear about "XMPP"
DarkiJah: Offtopic, please go to another channel for general discussions
DarkiJah
Everybody who likes some freedom from big criminal companies who wants to be free of them smelling there asses and jailing them in! Free as a Birdie - Get on Sending Birds!✎
DarkiJah
Everybody who likes some freedom from big criminal companies who wants to be free of them smelling their asses and jailing them in! Free as a Birdie - Get on Sending Birds! ✏
DarkiJah
emus: thats the thing not that many arround in English. We need to extract more people and make them aware of this wonderful platform.
DarkiJah
Anyway I'll take a break.
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peetah
emus: I think that, after review by someone else, my PR is ready to be merged
vanitasvitae
emus, in the description of #730 it is stated that "You don't need a command-line tool or any knowledge of git to commit your changes. Just add your comment as follows: Click the Files changed ribbon, then the three dots on the top right, then Edit file."
vanitasvitae
however, this option is probably disabled for many (it is for me at least)
vanitasvitae
I guess it is enabled for you because you have write access to the repo.
Licaon_Kter
vanitasvitae: are you on MASTER?
Licaon_Kter
Left side upper part?
Licaon_Kter
You don't need write access as it first clones it for you then it edits
vanitasvitae
Licaon_Kter, I was here: https://github.com/xsf/xmpp.org/pull/730/files
vanitasvitae
I know how to create PRs, just want to note that the tips in the PRs description might not work for anybody
"...then View file and then finally Edit by clicking the pencil icon." ✏
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vanitasvitae
"you must be on a branch to..."
Licaon_Kter
Branch? I just followed your link
Licaon_Kter
It creates a branch after the edit
emus
vanitasvitae, Licaon_Kter: Okay, then I maybe just tell them to create an issue, or drop their info here. I dont want to hurdle people too much.
emus
vanitasvitae: Can you make an issue an link me for reminding?
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peetah
wurstsalat: the last PR IO submitted proposes to remove the various authors of the XEP changelogs, since it is not informative for anyone outside of the XEP contribution process
Guus, if you find the time, a review of https://github.com/xsf/xmpp.org/pull/743 would be much appreciated. I’d be willing to do more work following that :)
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vanitasvitae
emus, I created an issue for the description and also another PR for jxmpp 🙂 https://github.com/xsf/xmpp.org/pull/752
emus
vanitasvitae: Thank you, I saw the email already 👍
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Guus
wurstsalat: merge it, deploy it, roll back in case of issues?
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Guus
I'm on holiday, don't know when I will pull out the laptop. Downloading large binaries might be a no-no on this camping park
wurstsalat
Guus, enjoy your holiday! Merging that PR would need a pelican update as well, so I’ll wait until this can be tested properly :)
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emus
So everyone, be reminded that the Review Phase starts at the 1st of August, closing by 3rd for final review. Still, if you could provide "your" missing information by end of July that would be great!