XSF Communications Team - 2020-08-02

  1. vanitasvitae

    For the next issue: https://discourse.igniterealtime.org/t/jsxc-web-client-now-available-as-a-plugin-for-openfire/88467

  2. emus


  3. emus

    Personal reminder to add: Linuxfr.org user Space_e_man proposed his short overview of [Quicksy the easy XMPP based libre instant messaging platform](https://linuxfr.org/users/space_e_man/journaux/quicksy-la-messagerie-instantanee-libre-basee-sur-xmpp-facile). While the article itself concentrates on the reasons why it should be prefered to other proprietary solutions, the comments of linuxfr.org users, as usual, bring a lot of various points of view, as well as alternatives. > A new TURN server called [eturnal](https://eturnal.net) has been [published](https://www.process-one.net/blog/eturnal-v1-0-0-say-hello-to-a-new-stun-turn-server/). eturnal is a straightforward alternative to servers such as Coturn which can be used for offering STUN/TURN services to A/V clients using [external service discovery](https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0215.html). https://yarmo.eu/post/keyoxide-xmpp-omemo https://github.com/cmeng-git/atalk-android/blob/master/aTalk/ReleaseNotes.txt) https://www.kontalk.org/) Monal wurstsalat: Is the XEP section done from your side?

  4. Licaon_Kter

    Monal 4.7 both iOS and macOS is live on App Store so the text can be changed a bit, I'll try a PR later.

  5. emus

    Licaon_Kter: that would be nice. Maybe you can also summarize other new features, I think there is already an entry for monal

  6. Licaon_Kter

    Will try > Despite the small version number update, this is a large upgrade. Among the many changes in this release: 1.New title bar in chat 2.Show when user was last seen online (XEP-0319: Last User Interaction in Presence) 3.Show typing notification (XEP-0085: Chat State Notifications) 4.XMPP blocking (XEP-0191: Blocking Command) 5.Fixed ui glitch that shows incorrect unread mesages 6. Many other Ui and stability improvements

  7. emus


  8. peetah

    emus: the linuxfr quickly overview is a news covered in last month newsletter

  9. emus

    peetah: ok thx

  10. peetah

    is'nt a bridge like whatsxmpp considered as an xmpp client ?

  11. emus

    hmm, I think putting it into others is the best category. I dont see that this a client 🤔

  12. peetah

    technically it is a client

  13. peetah

    it takes a data sent by an XMPP server and process them or send data to the XMPP server

  14. eta

    peetah, as the person who wrote it, it's definitely not a client

  15. eta

    whatsapp is not an XMPP server

  16. Licaon_Kter

    eta: not anymore?

  17. eta

    Licaon_Kter, indeed

  18. peetah

    eta: I understood that it was a bridge between Whatsapp web and and XMPP server : am I wrong ?

  19. peetah

    eta: I understood that it was a bridge between Whatsapp web and an XMPP server : am I wrong ?

  20. emus

    eta: What else is whatsapp in you describtion

  21. eta

    emus, pardon?

  22. SouL

    A bridge is not a client

  23. peetah

    in my understanding, a client is a something talking to a server, hence a bridge is a client. Please, explain where I'm mistaking.

  24. peetah

    could someone with understanding of the XEP-0313 update review the last commit of my last PR so that I do not introduce inexact information ? thanks

  25. emus

    eta, you said its not xmpp anymore. I was jsut interested what else it is in your view?

  26. eta

    peetah, a client is designed to be used by a human

  27. pep.

    eta, no

  28. pep.

    a bot is a client

  29. pep.

    Well a bot can be a client

  30. eta

    emus, I'm not actually sure - I think it's xmpp with some space optimizations

  31. pep.

    It can also be a component

  32. eta

    emus, whatsxmpp does not speak the whatsapp protocol though, it speaks the whatsapp web protocol

  33. pep.

    peetah, there's multiple ways to implement a bridge, generally it'll be either component or client (component being really close to a client but on the server and with a namespace for it to use)

  34. peetah

    In the PoV of the newsletter, I understand that it is not a client as end-users would understand it, but does it justify that whatsxmpp related news should be put in another section

  35. peetah

    In the PoV of the newsletter, I understand that it is not a client as end-users would understand it, but does it justify that whatsxmpp related news should be put in another section ?

  36. emus

    peetah, I don't think this is a bad thing, it just a category for things which is, like this software, between the lines

  37. emus

    Are you still editing?

  38. emus

    I want to do some edits as well

  39. peetah

    nope, go for it

  40. emus

    Ok, I think if eta says its okay to put it in the Other section we can stick to it. Everyone interested will see it there. But thanks for your PR, will merge

  41. emus

    Hello everyone, the August PR is open for you contributions! https://github.com/xsf/xmpp.org/pull/756

  42. emus

    Licaon, do you still want to add something for July?

  43. Licaon_Kter

    looking now

  44. emus


  45. Licaon_Kter

    The GSOC section is huge, and parts of it were covered before too, right?

  46. emus

    Yes, it is my intention to show the process

  47. Licaon_Kter

    Umm, I'm not against, just noticed it's so much bigger 😉

  48. emus

    Yes, I take the responsibility 🙁

  49. emus


  50. emus

    I hope wurstsalat is not on holidays 🏖️ - otherwise I would be happy if someone may review the XEP section

  51. Licaon_Kter

    Hope I did not go overboard 🙂

  52. Licaon_Kter


  53. Licaon_Kter

    And another one, thanks

  54. emus


  55. emus

    Okay guys, I think we are more or less ready for the final review. I will close the collection by now and open for the final reviews till the 6th. Everyone is invited to review! 🕵‍♂️️

  56. emus

    Can anyone review the image links, I am not sure if they are properly done for pelican. This time also Github does not render the images, what it did last time

  57. emus

    Final reviews are open. I hope we can confirm on the XEP section

  58. emus


  59. wurstsalat

    emus: in fact I am right now :) but no xep updates in my inbox so it should be fine!

  60. emus

    wurstsalat: Thanks! Enjoy! 🌞