XSF Communications Team - 2021-01-23


  1. emus

    sorry, I thought you speak french, as you often post articles from there - at least I thought so^^

  2. Licaon_Kter

    Speaking =\= Writing ;)

  3. emus

    πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈοΈ

  4. emus

    https://xmpp.org/2021/01/instant-messaging-its-not-about-the-app/

  5. emus

    I will ask for tweets tonight

  6. emus

    Thanks to everyone participating! πŸ€—οΈ

  7. wurstsalat

    emus: πŸ₯³

  8. emus

    Uhh double headline --> PR πŸƒβ€β™‚οΈοΈ

  9. emus

    https://twitter.com/xmpp/status/1352946729713340416?s=20

  10. wurstsalat

    emus: do you have access to fosstodon's @xmpp ?

  11. emus

    wurstsalat: no, I have none of those accesses. But Iwill ask Seve

  12. edhelas

    retweeted :)

  13. emus

    edhelas: πŸ˜˜πŸ˜‰

  14. edhelas

    sharing is caring πŸ’•

  15. Licaon_Kter

    emus, so https://github.com/xsf/xmpp.org/pull/876#discussion_r563123869 ?

  16. Licaon_Kter

    Also, since I'm the only one actively translating XMPP apps, basically you'll never approve the blog translation?

  17. Martin

    I want to have a look, but am busy now. 😐

  18. emus

    Licaon_Kter: is it an option to ask an unrelated friend or contact?

  19. Licaon_Kter

    emus: not for me, that's a lot of work, you know that

  20. emus

    ok, if no one is out there, I have no other option than mergingπŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

  21. wurstsalat

    emus: I'll have a look at the german translation later

  22. Licaon_Kter

    emus: yeah, I know it's a niche ~country~locale Β―\_(ツ)_/Β―

  23. purplebeetroot

    You saw this response from Chelsea Manning to signal? "end-to-end encryption without a self healing mesh network is prone to a single point of failure in functionality during crises, causing a cascade of secure communications to grind to a halt and force folks to use less secure alternatives" https://mobile.twitter.com/xychelsea/status/1350190083027193862 Often when people promote Signal, they refer to Edward Snowden who's heavily promoting it. Refering back to Chelsea Manning, when explaining why XMPP matters, can be a usefull strategy against this attitute: but this security expert said we can trust in it. Then you can reply with: yes, and this expert said you should not, and this are her arguments.

  24. Martin

    Chelsea Manning is considered a security expert?

  25. Martin

    Wasn't he convicted due to cleartext logs?

  26. emus

    I think before was involed in military opsec stuff. Anyway, I prefer people retweeting. I dont wanna start active chasing after people currently

  27. pep.

    Martin, errors happen :/

  28. pep.

    And I don't think it was her logs but those of her recipients or sth(?)

  29. pep.

    Don't quote me on that

  30. Licaon_Kter

    purplebeetroot: Snowden says _"I use Signal and I'm still alive"_ While history says _"Snowden is alive because he used XMPP in 2013"_

  31. pep.

    I doubt it's in anybody's interest now to kill Snowden anyway :x

  32. Licaon_Kter

    pep.: _accident_

  33. pep.

    yeah yeah, accidents :p

  34. Licaon_Kter

    emus updates as you wish, hope we get a tweet per translation too πŸ™‚ or an entry on the blog post with "also in LOCALE" ?

  35. emus

    > pep. wrote: > I doubt it's in anybody's interest now to kill Snowden anyway :x I guess so too. because people forgot they still are using vendor android or ios

  36. emus

    Licaon_Kter: yes sur

  37. emus

    Licaon_Kter: yes sure

  38. emus

    Do you guys think I should send an exceptional email to the Newsletter subscribers?

  39. Licaon_Kter

    With the blogpost? Preaching to the choir is not needed.

  40. wurstsalat

    I think adding it to the regular one is fine

  41. emus

    Ok

  42. Licaon_Kter

    What wurstsalat said

  43. Licaon_Kter

    using the word "messenger" as... > In contrast to the current situation where other people suggest you use their preferred messenger in the XMPP universe you have a free choice of many messengers – pick whichever one you like, not what others like until the next internet fad. The difference is that, regardless of your messaging app or which app your friends use, you still have the comfort of being on the same network with all of your contacts, independent of your choice today. I think this is a real solution.

  44. Licaon_Kter

    using the word "messenger" as... > In contrast to the current situation where other people suggest you use their preferred messenger here it means system right? > in the XMPP universe you have a free choice of many messengers here it means client? > – pick whichever one> you like, not what others like until the next internet fad. so this is about XMPP clients or other systems? > The difference is that, regardless of your messaging app so client or which app your friends use, you still have the comfort of being on the same network with all of your contacts, independent of your choice today. I think this is a real solution.

  45. Licaon_Kter

    using the word "messenger" as... > In contrast to the current situation where other people suggest you use their preferred messenger here it means system right? > in the XMPP universe you have a free choice of many messengers here it means client? > – pick whichever one> you like, not what others like until the next internet fad. so this is about XMPP clients or other systems? > The difference is that, regardless of your messaging app so xmpp client > or which app your friends use so xmpp client...but not sure > you still have the comfort of being on the same network with all of your contacts, independent of your choice today. I think this is a real solution. right, surely here is xmpp client

  46. emus

    1. hmm, I think for most people it means messenger (but for ud can also mean system) 2. yes 3. hmm its a bit general: within xmpp you can choose a client until the next fad, can also be about others

  47. emus

    4. yes 5. Id also say yes 6. yes

  48. Licaon_Kter

    the actual word is used all over, of course, so I had to interpret this as best as I could to explain πŸ™‚

  49. purplebeetroot

    > Wasn't she convicted due to cleartext logs? Because she got reported through Lamo, whom she shared personal information in a moment of personal crisis.

  50. emus

    Any comments on this or request, that I should wait for one review? https://github.com/xsf/xmpp.org/pull/870

  51. wurstsalat

    emus: I think it's an improvement, simple but good

  52. emus

    Thank you wurstsalat!

  53. emus

    wurstsalat are you fine that I release the german article (as the others) under CC BY-SA 4.0 Lizenz

  54. emus

    same goes for Licaon_Kter ?

  55. emus

    (if yes, can you add this translated to the end?: This blog post is published under CC BY-SA 4.0 license.)

  56. emus

    Also, if you want (I would be happy to), I can add you name as translator there, too

  57. wurstsalat

    emus: you did all the work, I'm alright without (for the german translation). And I'd be very happy with using CC-BY-SA

  58. emus

    πŸ‘οΈ Yes, for the english I did already, but you added your review already