XSF Communications Team - 2021-02-15

> Maybe they mean macOS, which is true, or iOS which is not You could still use converse over the browser.

purplebeetroot: no omemo on files, keys issues, general instability (in my experience)

A blogpost how to use xmpp for e2e encrypted group chat and what are the pitfalls that can be avoided by doing xyz could be usefull.

There's no how to use, open private chat....chat.

Then people are likly better served with Matrix (until fixed). UX for e2e encrypted group chat is so bad, that some don't see any UX at all. (hence the systemli blogpost)

purplebeetroot: what? Do link to where they complained about that? There's no such info there... For what is worth maybe they tried Pidgin and that sucked

"[XMPP] also does not offer a usable option for encrypting group communication (E2EE)." Full blogpost here: https://www.systemli.org/en/2021/01/25/new-service-modern-messenger-matrix/

They suggest this client usage: ' For using Jabber, there are different ones. For example Gajim (Windows/Linux), Monal (OS X), ChatSecure (iOS) oder Conversations (Android)." https://www.systemli.org/en/service/xmpp/

Gajim, ChatSecure and Conv have OMEMO in MUCs > It also does not offer a usable option for encrypting group communication (E2EE). So much info, so much wow

...yes. What's true is that people regularly complain about not being able to fetch a key. Communicating this issue more open and how to circumvent it, might increase the UX and the opinion of systemli.

Didn't say there aren't any issues, but...

...we should comunicate them more openly, so that more people are aware how to avoid the pitfalls and by that have a nice UX instead of none/shity

These are known issues in the ecosystem.

emus, the "Make a pull request by editing the file in this repository" URL link has not been updated ;)

oh, and the new file is missing a .md extension

I _just_ realized Snikket’s logo resemples the Paranoid Parrot meme. mind=blown

> wurstsalat escribió: > I _just_ realized Snikket’s logo resemples the Paranoid Parrot meme. mind=blown Can you explain?

> wurstsalat escribió: > emus, the "Make a pull request by editing the file in this repository" URL link has not been updated ;) May you PR?

😅

or open an issue?