XSF Communications Team - 2021-05-19


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  55. nicola Hi! I don't want to start 'religious wars'; we are plenty of them. I am a Matrix and XMPP supporter. I have a question that many people ask me: what are the substantial differences between the two systems? People ask which would be the better solution. The XMPP apps do not handle voice messages, and it seems to me.
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  57. Martin Matrix is more slack like while most xmpp mobile apps take the whatsapp approach.
  58. Martin What do you mean by it doesn't handle voice messages? They are just done by http-upload and most clients support that. Most clients also have the recording included.
  59. emus (XSF Com. Team) nicola: which one do not support it?
  60. nicola I am sorry. I am in the Apple ecosystem and probably there aren’t efficient solutions
  61. emus (XSF Com. Team) nicola: Maybe take a look at Monal, I dont know if Siskin can do it, but I know that this feature will be supported in the next update
  62. emus (XSF Com. Team) of Monal
  63. nicola > nicola: Maybe take a look at Monal, I dont know if Siskin can do it, but I know that this feature will be supported in the next update Tks
  64. emus (XSF Com. Team) Do not use ChatSecure I suggest
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  88. Licaon_Kter Sam: Y R U trolling Matthew of Matrix? :)
  89. Sam I'm not, I'm explaining why it's not a good replacement for freenode
  90. Sam I don't know who Matthew is
  91. eta Sam: matrix corp CEO
  92. Sam Gotcha. Figures he'd show up and make nonsense claims like that then
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  94. Sam I'll assume the not disclosing who he is is in good faith and he just didn't think about it, but it would have been nice to know
  95. Licaon_Kter Sam: Arathorn So you've just walked up into a trap? Funny he won't dispell the FUD of "minority" in the actual company. As usual. 32M users, they might need another round of $5mil from VCs to keep those servers alive. No Slack killer in sight yet. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
  96. Sam oh well, too late to rephrase for him now
  97. Licaon_Kter 👍
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  106. MattJ 32M became "300K DAU" later in the thread, even at 30% reporting that's just 1M DAU, so where did the 32M come from?
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  109. Licaon_Kter MattJ: DAU is real users?
  110. MattJ Daily active users, so supposedly yes :)
  111. Licaon_Kter Federation?
  112. Licaon_Kter Why 30%?
  113. MattJ Assuming 32M is total registered accounts, it means that out of 32M registered accounts only 1M (3%) are actively used at most (trusting the 30% phone home estimate)
  114. MattJ The stats are based on Synapse (the Matrix server implementation) reporting home with stats about active users. He's saying they reckon that is only enabled on 30% of deployments
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  116. MattJ Lots of inaccurate guesswork. I suspect the 32M number comes from registrations with their identity server (which is a central node on the network), and the only other number they can confidently claim is that at least 300K accounts are used daily.
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  118. emus (XSF Com. Team) Well, what ever we see in the numbers. They at least get capital in and also have much better communication and advertisement (if think thats good or not) I try my best to get better stuff for xmpp in general. but I cannot compete with an agency of people
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  120. emus (XSF Com. Team) And also, I wouldnt wonder if they one day overtake us, if they not have already
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