I don't want to start 'religious wars'; we are plenty of them.
I am a Matrix and XMPP supporter.
I have a question that many people ask me: what are the substantial differences between the two systems?
People ask which would be the better solution.
The XMPP apps do not handle voice messages, and it seems to me.
MartinMatrix is more slack like while most xmpp mobile apps take the whatsapp approach.
MartinWhat do you mean by it doesn't handle voice messages? They are just done by http-upload and most clients support that. Most clients also have the recording included.
emus (XSF Com. Team)nicola: which one do not support it?
nicolaI am sorry. I am in the Apple ecosystem and probably there aren’t efficient solutions
emus (XSF Com. Team)nicola: Maybe take a look at Monal, I dont know if Siskin can do it, but I know that this feature will be supported in the next update
emus (XSF Com. Team)of Monal
nicola> nicola: Maybe take a look at Monal, I dont know if Siskin can do it, but I know that this feature will be supported in the next update
emus (XSF Com. Team)Do not use ChatSecure I suggest
Licaon_KterSam: Y R U trolling Matthew of Matrix? :)
SamI'm not, I'm explaining why it's not a good replacement for freenode
SamI don't know who Matthew is
etaSam: matrix corp CEO
SamGotcha. Figures he'd show up and make nonsense claims like that then
SamI'll assume the not disclosing who he is is in good faith and he just didn't think about it, but it would have been nice to know
So you've just walked up into a trap?
Funny he won't dispell the FUD of "minority" in the actual company. As usual.
32M users, they might need another round of $5mil from VCs to keep those servers alive. No Slack killer in sight yet.
Samoh well, too late to rephrase for him now
MattJ32M became "300K DAU" later in the thread, even at 30% reporting that's just 1M DAU, so where did the 32M come from?
Licaon_KterMattJ: DAU is real users?
MattJDaily active users, so supposedly yes :)
MattJAssuming 32M is total registered accounts, it means that out of 32M registered accounts only 1M (3%) are actively used at most (trusting the 30% phone home estimate)
MattJThe stats are based on Synapse (the Matrix server implementation) reporting home with stats about active users. He's saying they reckon that is only enabled on 30% of deployments
MattJLots of inaccurate guesswork. I suspect the 32M number comes from registrations with their identity server (which is a central node on the network), and the only other number they can confidently claim is that at least 300K accounts are used daily.
emus (XSF Com. Team)Well, what ever we see in the numbers. They at least get capital in and also have much better communication and advertisement (if think thats good or not)
I try my best to get better stuff for xmpp in general. but I cannot compete with an agency of people
emus (XSF Com. Team)And also, I wouldnt wonder if they one day overtake us, if they not have already