XSF Communications Team - 2021-09-05

  1. wurstsalat

    Sam, I added an issue for that

  2. wurstsalat

    I'd do a PR, but there is another big PR, and I don't want it to diverge too much :)

  3. MattJ

    +1, sorry for the delay on that... had a lot on my plate recently

  4. MattJ

    I have some tasks I have to complete for a deadline this week, and then I've got a few XSF-related tasks to catch up on

  5. emus (XSF Com. Team)

    Any one in the mood to check this chat for posted links / news we dont have in the newsletter yet (from back to 1st of August) ?

  6. Licaon_Kter

    I'll look now

  7. emus (XSF Com. Team)


  8. emus (XSF Com. Team)

    Sam are you online?

  9. Licaon_Kter

    > This conspiration theory...good enough for the letter? :) > https://matduggan.com/how-does-facetime-work/ This was a no then? I don't have strong feelings...

  10. Licaon_Kter

    I didn't find any other

  11. emus (XSF Com. Team)

    is it build on the xmpp protocol or not?

  12. Sam

    emus (XSF Com. Team): on my phone, so sort of

  13. emus (XSF Com. Team)

    Communiqué is a new XMPP client from the [Mellium Co-op](https://opencollective.com/mellium) team. It was [announced](https://opencollective.com/mellium/updates/introducing-communique) this month and presented at the XMPP Office Hours (TODO: add video link). The source code can be found [in the repository](https://github.com/mellium/xmpp/). It includes updates to the Mellium XMPP library as well as the new Communiqué instant messaging client (discussed more below). The biggest updates this month are MAM and ad-hoc commands support. This section says something about the Mellium library. Is that not what you meant? + shall I split it?

  14. emus (XSF Com. Team)

    TODO will be removed

  15. Licaon_Kter

    emus (XSF Com. Team): > is it build on the xmpp protocol or not? Thu answer there is "we can't tell, but uses port 522x" ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

  16. emus (XSF Com. Team)

    I will mention it, let's see Thanks for checking the chat!

  17. emus (XSF Com. Team)

    LK: Finally, how does FaceTime work? [They interestingly use the same port (5223) as XMPP does...](https://matduggan.com/how-does-facetime-work/)

  18. Sam

    there was a separate library update in the pad, it seems to have been dropped

  19. Sam

    based on https://opencollective.com/mellium/updates/dev-communique-for-august-2021

  20. Sam

    oh, that text doesn't look right, maybe someone tried to merge it and broke it?

  21. emus (XSF Com. Team)

    Yes that was me 🙂

  22. emus (XSF Com. Team)

    I'm going back to the history

  23. Sam

    It appears to not make sense anymore. Thanks!

  24. emus (XSF Com. Team)

    however, I'm seeing kyrillic text there - do we have still others using this?

  25. Sam

    biking to the cafe then I can help if needed

  26. emus (XSF Com. Team)

    F**k, I just close the tabe with no changes saved -.-

  27. Licaon_Kter

    emus (XSF Com. Team): > however, I'm seeing kyrillic text there - do we have still others using this? That was my fault, clipboard lapse, :D

  28. emus (XSF Com. Team)

    ah ok

  29. emus (XSF Com. Team)

    MattJ - is alright to put this in the newsletter?

  30. emus (XSF Com. Team)


  31. Licaon_Kter

    emus (XSF Com. Team): Then it's 'No Stable this month' :) ?

  32. MattJ

    emus (XSF Com. Team), one moment, I'll find something better

  33. emus (XSF Com. Team)

    Yes ^^

  34. emus (XSF Com. Team)


  35. Licaon_Kter

    emus (XSF Com. Team): https://github.com/xsf/xmpp.org/pull/957 right?

  36. emus (XSF Com. Team)

    Hmm, as it is hard on a client, I would prefer to have it in the client section

  37. emus (XSF Com. Team)

    articles are usually for general topics I would say

  38. Licaon_Kter

    emus (XSF Com. Team): whatever :)

  39. emus (XSF Com. Team)

    Then I would prefer to keep it, ok?

  40. Licaon_Kter


  41. Licaon_Kter

    Closed 👍

  42. emus (XSF Com. Team)


  43. Licaon_Kter

    Maybe just put the iOS release just underneath it then?

  44. emus (XSF Com. Team)

    wurstsalat, we really need a date?

  45. emus (XSF Com. Team)

    LK, you mean the link in the Appstore?

  46. emus (XSF Com. Team)

    LK, you mean the link to the Appstore?

  47. Licaon_Kter

    No... The money news says read below And just move the ios section to be following it

  48. Licaon_Kter

    Now there's like 3 more news between these 2

  49. wurstsalat

    emus (XSF Com. Team), date=

  50. wurstsalat


  51. emus (XSF Com. Team)

    the file header

  52. emus (XSF Com. Team)

    ok LK

  53. emus (XSF Com. Team)

    ah I see LK

  54. emus (XSF Com. Team)

    While the Snikket iOS client app was just released, read more below, the behind the scenes development continues. In the latest blog post, Matthew Wild announces that [the expert folk at Simply Secure will be performing a usability audit of the current app](https://snikket.org/blog/simply-secure-collaboration/), as well as conducting usability testing thanks to funding from the OTF’s Usability Lab. The analysis will help to improve the UX of the iOS app and Snikket as a whole.

  55. emus (XSF Com. Team)

    this is in Article now

  56. Licaon_Kter

    Yup, just move the ios release under it so it flows

  57. Licaon_Kter

    Or on top but then this one needs rephrasing, etc

  58. emus (XSF Com. Team)

    but I think it is fine now with the "read blow"

  59. emus (XSF Com. Team)


  60. emus (XSF Com. Team)

    I dont get you comment 19 mins ago?

  61. emus (XSF Com. Team)

    MattJ anything found?

  62. wurstsalat

    emus (XSF Com. Team), I just took the header from the last post

  63. emus (XSF Com. Team)

    Ok, hmm thats a confusing topic. I leave it

  64. emus (XSF Com. Team)

    I'm going to have a shower - maybe Sam and MattJ can answer until I'm back 🙂

  65. Sam

    emus (XSF Com. Team): the text that says "see below" has nothing below it to see. The other text is above it.

  66. MattJ

    emus (XSF Com. Team), https://matthewwild.co.uk/uploads/snikket_ios_20210901.png

  67. Licaon_Kter

    MattJ: your own messages have no lock icon?

  68. MattJ

    Very observant :)

  69. MattJ

    They do, but I disabled it in that device for testing something

  70. Licaon_Kter


  71. emus (XSF Com. Team)


  72. emus (XSF Com. Team)

    do you have time for a final review? https://github.com/xsf/xmpp.org/pull/956

  73. emus (XSF Com. Team)

    maybe with the rendered preview

  74. emus (XSF Com. Team)

    Okay, anyone else time for a final check?

  75. emus (XSF Com. Team)

    **Editorial closing of the XMPP Newsletter August release** Docker build pulls it asap robot Thanks to Adrien Bourmault (neox), Anoxinon e.V. community, anubis, Benoît Sibaud, emus, Sam, Licaon_Kter, nicola, seveso, SouL, wurstsalat3000, Ysabeau for their help in creation, review and translation! ❤️ Next release on 5th of October 2021

  76. wurstsalat

    Thanks emus !

  77. emus (XSF Com. Team)

    Con gusto!

  78. Licaon_Kter


  79. emus (XSF Com. Team)

    Oh great I think we just lost our Fosstodon account 🙂

  80. emus (XSF Com. Team)


  81. MattJ

    Well what's the email address? :)

  82. emus (XSF Com. Team)


  83. MattJ

    Who has access to it?

  84. emus (XSF Com. Team)

    I think nyco but he is not even member of xsf anymore

  85. MattJ

    He's still alive though, I'm sure we can reach him

  86. emus (XSF Com. Team)

    Ok, Im out for a few hours. lets see later

  87. Licaon_Kter

    Heh alive :()

  88. MattJ

    I've sent him an email

  89. emus (XSF Com. Team)


  90. emus (XSF Com. Team)

    Thanks MattJ https://xmpp.org/2021/08/newsletter-08-august/

  91. emus (XSF Com. Team)

    picutre fix is commited already

  92. Licaon_Kter

    You mean the Gajim one named jackal?

  93. Licaon_Kter

    Mellium lib news was not linkified

  94. emus (XSF Com. Team)

    I'm really early this time! PR is ready https://github.com/xsf/xmpp.org/pull/959

  95. emus (XSF Com. Team)

    LK both

  96. Licaon_Kter


  97. emus (XSF Com. Team)

    SouL can you still login to Fosstodon account? May you toot (and tweet) a post in the manner as I did the recent times? Pictures should be in the cache

  98. emus (XSF Com. Team)

    Are there actually any known ideas how many people have subscribed to the Planet Jabber feed?