XSF Communications Team - 2021-10-05

  1. emus

    Sam: Hi Sam, question I got for tonight: - What about German / EU tax law? (of course this questions comes^^) - Is there a max limit? - How will the money be distributed allocated? (I guess that will be explained anyway)

  2. Sam

    Thanks! I must admit, I have no idea about the first one, buy the second two I can talk about

  3. emus

    Of course not ๐Ÿ˜‰

  4. emus

    noone does ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

  5. Sam

    (I did some research and figured out "it depends", doesn't stop you from donating of course, the tax status of your donation just requires consulting with an accountant or lawyer most likely)

  6. emus

    Yeah, but I think that should not be on your effort here

  7. emus

    the German community should figure out themselves. Im sure one knows a tax adviser

  8. Sam

    I doubt most people will be donating enough that it would matter anyways; a few dollars ending up being tax exempt for you probably doesn't help your taxes at the end of the year

  9. emus

    Yes, good point. Lets point that out

  10. emus

    starting in 20 mins?

  11. emus

    ah yes

  12. Sam

    Was just about to copy/paste that here :)

  13. emus

    and as I finished all tasks and bugfixing AND I have vaccation I now I am going to joi. :)

  14. emus


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  16. emus


  17. wurstsalat

    Sam, we could also link to this evening's recording on the fiscal host page / blog post

  18. emus

    Doing Newsletter now. Final comments now please!

  19. emus

    wurstsalat, from merge to deploy does how much time go now?

  20. wurstsalat

    that depends on MattJ's time :)

  21. emus

    ah the deployment is not automatic anymore

  22. emus

    โ€‹ 58 [Dino v0.2.2 has been released](https://github.com/dino/dino/releases/tag/v0.2.2). This version is a maintenance release and includes bug fixes. Let's put this to October, ok?

  23. emus

    ah no, its Sept

  24. emus


  25. emus

    sam, total of topic: If someone say thanks to me for some reason, can I say "sure" instead of "You're welcome!" something meaning "Sure, I was happy to help" or "No problem"

  26. Sam

    Oh yah, I think that's fine at least in U.S. English

  27. emus

    Hehe, I expect you just answer with sure ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿ˜€

  28. emus


  29. Sam

    Sure thing!

  30. Sam

    (is also a variation I use a lot)

  31. emus


  32. emus

    interop note is proper expression?

  33. emus

    > Incorporate LC feedback: Remove requirement to remove "private" elements (and add interop note), completely reword mobile considerations to fit modern reality. (gl)

  34. wurstsalat

    emus, that's a 1:1 copy of the changelog, I wouldn't change that

  35. emus

    neox, is it okay if I place you ala NAME (NICKNAME) in the newsletter or just once?

  36. emus

    wurstsalat, ok

  37. emus

    wurstsalat: {{< newsletter-subscribe >}} I add the HTML code here?

  38. wurstsalat

    emus, that's a hugo template snippet. it will be replaced by the html subscription form during build

  39. emus

    ah ok, so I just leave it?

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  41. emus


  42. neox

    > neox, is it okay if I place you ala NAME (NICKNAME) in the newsletter or just once? > wurstsalat, ok I like Adrien Bourmault (neox)

  43. emus

    Ok, perfect then I just leave it as it is ๐Ÿ™‚

  44. emus

    Nice screenshot jcbrand ๐Ÿ˜€

  45. emus


  46. emus

    Go-sendxmpp, one of various alternatives to the original sendxmpp, released versions v0.1.0 and v0.1.1. is NOT a library?

  47. emus

    wurstsalat, images are still rendered via something like: ![Communiquรฉ](/images/newsletter/august2021/communique.png "Communiquรฉ")

  48. wurstsalat

    they are rendered correctly, I just checked locally

  49. emus


  50. emus

    ok, but I dont need to name the static/

  51. wurstsalat

    no you don't

  52. wurstsalat

    emus, you can render the post locally with minimal effort using "hugo server" :)

  53. emus

    I know ๐Ÿ™‚ will do in a minute

  54. wurstsalat

    just ask if you have any questions!

  55. emus

    this is so smooth I cannot believe Much wow - such web

  56. wurstsalat

    *very newsletter

  57. emus


  58. emus

    In the old version there was a reference on who posts and where its archived. Do we still need this? was it important?

  59. emus

    Tehcnically it is in the top now

  60. wurstsalat

    who posts? you mean authors? yes, post meta is now in the top

  61. emus

    Yeah, is fine

  62. emus

    wurstsalat can you give it a final approve?

  63. wurstsalat

    emus, 1 sec

  64. emus

    Sam, would it be possible to make the video we have public on youtube also public here? https://socialcoop.meet.coop/sam-pku-dud-niv

  65. Sam

    No, those are the raw unedited files and I don't want to eat their bandwidth

  66. emus


  67. wurstsalat

    emus, looks fine

  68. Sam

    I don't think it's really meant for lots of people downloading publicly :)

  69. emus


  70. wurstsalat

    maybe squash the commits though?

  71. emus

    I always do when merging

  72. wurstsalat


  73. Sam

    The video just finished rendering a bit ago; going to go to the climbing gym and will start editing when I get back.

  74. emus


  75. emus

    no rush

  76. wurstsalat

    I added `--buildFuture` the the `make serve` command. this way Hugo will build posts dated in the future as well. this might help when previewing posts :)

  77. emus

    ah ok

  78. wurstsalat

    when run stand alone, you can also just `hugo server --buildFuture`

  79. emus

    โŒ›๏ธ *Editorial closing of the XMPP Newsletter September 2021 release* ๐Ÿš€๏ธ Merge in a few minutes! Docker build pulls it asap robot ๐Ÿ™๏ธ Thanks to Adrien Bourmault (neox), Benoรฎt Sibaud, emus, palm123, Licaon_Kter, MattJ, mdosch, nicola, seveso, Sam Whited, SouL, wurstsalat3000, Ysabeau for their help in creation, review and translation! ๐Ÿค๏ธ ... ehh.. here we go again, https://timetoherd.com/ hand mask hand โค๏ธ ๐ŸŽ†๏ธ Next release on 5th of November 2021 - The upcoming last release for this year!

  80. wurstsalat

    thanks emus !

  81. emus

    Could you by time list these trick somehwere?

  82. emus

    thanks wurstsalat! ๐Ÿ™‚

  83. emus

    and all the other supporters!

  84. wurstsalat

    emus, it does this automatically if you use make serve :)

  85. emus

    ah ok

  86. emus

    MattJ, please let me know when you managed to create a buil

  87. emus


  88. emus

    *to deploy

  89. MattJ

    I can do it now

  90. emus

    Ah that would be nice

  91. wurstsalat

    That'll unlock the Books section as well :) (and some other nice things)

  92. MattJ


  93. emus


  94. emus

    wurstsalat I cannot find the new pages

  95. emus

    *The XMPP Newsletter September 2021* https://xmpp.org/2021/10/the-xmpp-newsletter-september-2021/ Have a good time and enjoy reading! ๐Ÿ—ž๏ธ๐Ÿต๏ธ โ˜บ๏ธ

  96. neox will enjoy translating lol

  97. emus

    ๐Ÿ˜…๏ธ I hope you do ๐Ÿ™‚

  98. emus


  99. emus

    Memo to update: https://xmpp.org/community/events/ with link ref to github and XMPP Office horus

  100. emus

    wurstsalat sure the pages are online?

  101. emus

    ah yes: https://xmpp.org/about/publications/

  102. me9

    Are there some 'official translators' or is it up to the community to submit some sort of PR of their translation(s)?

  103. emus

    We have the official volunteers for German, Italian and French

  104. emus

    but I think everyone is happy for support

  105. me9


  106. emus

    Take a look in the first section of the newsletter, there you find the link. I think all of the translators are here aswell and you can reach out if you want to help

  107. emus

    shouldnt there be a better rendered option for the RFCs

  108. emus


  109. me9

    > emus wrote: > Take a look in the first section of the newsletter, there you find the link. I think all of the translators are here aswell and you can reach out if you want to help I see, thanks.

  110. emus

    I think Anoxion could require some support, I think you speak German, right?

  111. emus

    they also havent published the last version

  112. me9


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  114. emus

    is this intentional? https://xmpp.org/rfcs/

  115. MattJ

    Yes and no

  116. wurstsalat

    emus: that did not work as intended (first try). There is a redirect in place

  117. emus

    ah ok

  118. MattJ

    Some extra magic is required to update that, because the directory is served from somewhere else (not the xmpp.org repo)

  119. emus

    no rush what else is new I havent mentioned? The DOAP rendering online already?

  120. wurstsalat

    Nope, but I worked on that last weekend :)

  121. emus

    ah ok, fine โค๏ธ

  122. emus

    https://github.com/robbiehanson/XMPPFramework thats missing here, right? https://xmpp.org/software/libraries/

  123. wurstsalat

    There are style improvements here and there. https://xmpp.org/extensions/ looks a bit different now (some bootstrap elements added)

  124. emus


  125. MattJ

    But my muscle memory!

  126. wurstsalat

    MattJ: sorry, did I do something wrong?

  127. MattJ

    No, just I use the page so much and now things are in slightly different places... I need to get used to it :)

  128. MattJ

    I'm used to loading the page and ticking 'Deferred' automatically without thinking

  129. emus

    What a nice service now ๐Ÿ˜‰

  130. wurstsalat

    MattJ: I see! Hm other things you'd like to see improved?

  131. wurstsalat

    (as a daily user you'd probably know best)

  132. emus


  133. emus

    I wonder if it would make sense to sort the filter option logically

  134. MattJ

    That may be nice indeed

  135. emus

    Proposed - Experimental - Stable - Active - Final - Remaining I guess?

  136. MattJ

    I would put Deferred between Experimental and Stable, even if it's not checked by default, and I would swap Active/Final

  137. emus


  138. emus

    Other topic to sleep about: I think we can assume the email password is gone. if that applies we need to think of how to proceed next and reach out to mastodon to get this replaced somehow

  139. MattJ

    I thought you/SouL had access to it now? How did you get back onto Mastodon?

  140. MattJ

    But yes... sleep sounds good

  141. emus

    Mastodon request verification via email. but the email password does not work (anymore ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ?!)

  142. emus

    I would like to verify that its not working

  143. neox

    Here is the wip french translation https://linuxfr.org/redaction/news/lettre-d-information-xmpp-de-septembre-2021

  144. emus

    Many thanks!