XSF Communications Team - 2021-10-05

Sam: Hi Sam, question I got for tonight: - What about German / EU tax law? (of course this questions comes^^) - Is there a max limit? - How will the money be distributed allocated? (I guess that will be explained anyway)

Thanks! I must admit, I have no idea about the first one, buy the second two I can talk about

Of course not 😉

noone does 😃

(I did some research and figured out "it depends", doesn't stop you from donating of course, the tax status of your donation just requires consulting with an accountant or lawyer most likely)

Yeah, but I think that should not be on your effort here

the German community should figure out themselves. Im sure one knows a tax adviser

I doubt most people will be donating enough that it would matter anyways; a few dollars ending up being tax exempt for you probably doesn't help your taxes at the end of the year

Yes, good point. Lets point that out

starting in 20 mins?

ah yes

Was just about to copy/paste that here :)

and as I finished all tasks and bugfixing AND I have vaccation I now I am going to joi. :)

hehe

Nice!

https://socialcoop.meet.coop/sam-pku-dud-niv

Sam, we could also link to this evening's recording on the fiscal host page / blog post

Doing Newsletter now. Final comments now please!

wurstsalat, from merge to deploy does how much time go now?

that depends on MattJ's time :)

ah the deployment is not automatic anymore

​ 58 [Dino v0.2.2 has been released](https://github.com/dino/dino/releases/tag/v0.2.2). This version is a maintenance release and includes bug fixes. Let's put this to October, ok?

ah no, its Sept

nevermind

sam, total of topic: If someone say thanks to me for some reason, can I say "sure" instead of "You're welcome!" something meaning "Sure, I was happy to help" or "No problem"

Oh yah, I think that's fine at least in U.S. English

Hehe, I expect you just answer with sure 🙂 😀

Thanks!

Sure thing!

(is also a variation I use a lot)

☺️

interop note is proper expression?

> Incorporate LC feedback: Remove requirement to remove "private" elements (and add interop note), completely reword mobile considerations to fit modern reality. (gl)

emus, that's a 1:1 copy of the changelog, I wouldn't change that

neox, is it okay if I place you ala NAME (NICKNAME) in the newsletter or just once?

wurstsalat, ok

wurstsalat: {{< newsletter-subscribe >}} I add the HTML code here?

emus, that's a hugo template snippet. it will be replaced by the html subscription form during build

ah ok, so I just leave it?

yes

👍️

> neox, is it okay if I place you ala NAME (NICKNAME) in the newsletter or just once? > wurstsalat, ok I like Adrien Bourmault (neox)

Ok, perfect then I just leave it as it is 🙂

Nice screenshot jcbrand 😀

https://conversejs.org/screenshots/Converse-fullscreen.png

Go-sendxmpp, one of various alternatives to the original sendxmpp, released versions v0.1.0 and v0.1.1. is NOT a library?

wurstsalat, images are still rendered via something like: 

they are rendered correctly, I just checked locally

brb

ok, but I dont need to name the static/

no you don't

emus, you can render the post locally with minimal effort using "hugo server" :)

I know 🙂 will do in a minute

just ask if you have any questions!

this is so smooth I cannot believe Much wow - such web

*very newsletter

https://jabbers.one:5281/upload/fVJf-gsmRQeWK-Fs/3f1598b7-77ee-46a5-859c-bc379489722e.png

In the old version there was a reference on who posts and where its archived. Do we still need this? was it important?

Tehcnically it is in the top now

who posts? you mean authors? yes, post meta is now in the top

Yeah, is fine

wurstsalat can you give it a final approve?

emus, 1 sec

Sam, would it be possible to make the video we have public on youtube also public here? https://socialcoop.meet.coop/sam-pku-dud-niv

No, those are the raw unedited files and I don't want to eat their bandwidth

kk

emus, looks fine

I don't think it's really meant for lots of people downloading publicly :)

👍️

maybe squash the commits though?

I always do when merging

thanks

The video just finished rendering a bit ago; going to go to the climbing gym and will start editing when I get back.

Cool

no rush

I added `--buildFuture` the the `make serve` command. this way Hugo will build posts dated in the future as well. this might help when previewing posts :)

ah ok

when run stand alone, you can also just `hugo server --buildFuture`

⌛️ *Editorial closing of the XMPP Newsletter September 2021 release* 🚀️ Merge in a few minutes! Docker build pulls it asap robot 🙏️ Thanks to Adrien Bourmault (neox), Benoît Sibaud, emus, palm123, Licaon_Kter, MattJ, mdosch, nicola, seveso, Sam Whited, SouL, wurstsalat3000, Ysabeau for their help in creation, review and translation! 🤝️ ... ehh.. here we go again, https://timetoherd.com/ hand mask hand ❤️ 🎆️ Next release on 5th of November 2021 - The upcoming last release for this year!

thanks emus !

Could you by time list these trick somehwere?

thanks wurstsalat! 🙂

and all the other supporters!

emus, it does this automatically if you use make serve :)

ah ok

MattJ, please let me know when you managed to create a buil

*to deploy ✏

I can do it now

Ah that would be nice

That'll unlock the Books section as well :) (and some other nice things)

Done

❤️

wurstsalat I cannot find the new pages

*The XMPP Newsletter September 2021* https://xmpp.org/2021/10/the-xmpp-newsletter-september-2021/ Have a good time and enjoy reading! 🗞️🍵️ ☺️

😅️ I hope you do 🙂

Thanks!

Memo to update: https://xmpp.org/community/events/ with link ref to github and XMPP Office horus

wurstsalat sure the pages are online?

ah yes: https://xmpp.org/about/publications/

Are there some 'official translators' or is it up to the community to submit some sort of PR of their translation(s)?

We have the official volunteers for German, Italian and French

but I think everyone is happy for support

Okay.

Take a look in the first section of the newsletter, there you find the link. I think all of the translators are here aswell and you can reach out if you want to help

shouldnt there be a better rendered option for the RFCs

?

> emus wrote: > Take a look in the first section of the newsletter, there you find the link. I think all of the translators are here aswell and you can reach out if you want to help I see, thanks.

I think Anoxion could require some support, I think you speak German, right?

they also havent published the last version

Yep.

Okay.

is this intentional? https://xmpp.org/rfcs/

Yes and no

emus: that did not work as intended (first try). There is a redirect in place

ah ok

Some extra magic is required to update that, because the directory is served from somewhere else (not the xmpp.org repo)

no rush what else is new I havent mentioned? The DOAP rendering online already?

Nope, but I worked on that last weekend :)

ah ok, fine ❤️

https://github.com/robbiehanson/XMPPFramework thats missing here, right? https://xmpp.org/software/libraries/

There are style improvements here and there. https://xmpp.org/extensions/ looks a bit different now (some bootstrap elements added)

k

But my muscle memory!

MattJ: sorry, did I do something wrong?

No, just I use the page so much and now things are in slightly different places... I need to get used to it :)

I'm used to loading the page and ticking 'Deferred' automatically without thinking

What a nice service now 😉

MattJ: I see! Hm other things you'd like to see improved?

(as a daily user you'd probably know best)

https://jabbers.one:5281/upload/FDrw9ciD1QsvT7Ic/7716b0f2-f045-4fc6-85d7-4857d5538d42.png

I wonder if it would make sense to sort the filter option logically

That may be nice indeed

Proposed - Experimental - Stable - Active - Final - Remaining I guess?

I would put Deferred between Experimental and Stable, even if it's not checked by default, and I would swap Active/Final

ok

Other topic to sleep about: I think we can assume the email password is gone. if that applies we need to think of how to proceed next and reach out to mastodon to get this replaced somehow

I thought you/SouL had access to it now? How did you get back onto Mastodon?

But yes... sleep sounds good

Mastodon request verification via email. but the email password does not work (anymore 🤷‍♂️?!)

I would like to verify that its not working

Here is the wip french translation https://linuxfr.org/redaction/news/lettre-d-information-xmpp-de-septembre-2021

Many thanks!