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emus
Sam:
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emus
How is it about the OH?
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COM8
> Next week is COM8 talk? Yes
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emus
COM8: can you tell me a short title? and for what time you propsed? (and its tuesday right?)
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emus
can I announce you by your real name?
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vanitasvitae
XMPP (or Jabber rather) was mentioned as a positive example for interoperability on the German ZDF Magazin Royal: (https://youtu.be/DdIwus87eLM)
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emus
😮
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emus
TL;DR https://youtu.be/DdIwus87eLM?t=844
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emus
COM8 & Sam friendly reminder that I need some input
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Sam
emus: it's all on the wiki and the calendar
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emus
hmm but I did not saw it
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emus
ah directly on the website
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emus
its not in the pad yet
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Sam
Oh yah, I forgot about the pad. Either way, I said "wiki" not pad :)
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emus
haha
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Sam
I'll go remove the pad, no sense in keeping up with it now that it's not the signup form, just more things to forget.
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emus
ok but where is the calendar then?
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Sam
The official XSF calendar? It's also linked from the wiki I think
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emus
and also tracking of previous talks?
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emus
I don't think so
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Sam
I don't really care about tracking the previous talks, if someone else wants to do that they can
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Sam
(probably best to move that to the wiki too instead of continuing to use an external thing)
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emus
Can you at least do this and we try to ask newcommers to make their entry?
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emus
Or I do it then
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Sam
Do what?
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emus
move it to the wiki too
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Sam
We shouldn't ask newcommers to fill out the form and do more work. Also most won't have a wiki account
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emus
or wait
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emus
maybe leave the pad just for the moment
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Sam
I can't even edit the pad anymore apparently; weird. Anyways, I'm not going to delete it or anything, but I'll remove it from the wiki page so people don't get confused and use the old thing
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emus
Because it wont be able to organise if I cannot see what going on in a list like this
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emus
no please dont delete
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Sam
I don't understand what you even want to use the pad for; the next talk is on the wiki, people submit a form to request new slots, what does having a separate document with that do?
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emus
I am just convinced we should have it documented as we have the list of previous talks there at lease
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Sam
Why?
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Sam
I mean, I'm not against it, I just don't want to do it. The only reason it was a list before was because the pad was being used for signups, but we have a better way to do that now
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emus
Yes agreed. But if people want me to announce it I need some reference. I don't have the link yet and we should place it in the wiki in general. Yes ok, but then let's find a way to document. I often refer to these topic from a public perspective, the more we do the more important it becomes. A calendar is not useful for this I think
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Sam
The wiki is a good enough reference, why do we need another one?
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emus
no, no other one. Just these listed entries we have there on the page: "Previous talks!✎ -
emus
no, no other one. Just these listed entries we have there on the page: "Previous talks" ✏
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Sam
I mean, feel free to update that if you want. I wasn't keeping it up to date, it's just a few examples to get people into watching them.
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Sam
We should probably move it to a separate page if you're going to try to keep it up to date, but I suspect it's just going to get out of date anyways when people forget to update it.
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emus
Well, then it would be on the XSF Office Hours page, right?
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Sam
What would be?
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emus
list of old talks and upcoming?
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emus
https://xmpp.org/community/officehours/
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emus
wurstsalat, don't we had these announcement tiles?
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Sam
I don't understand what you're asking
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emus
Put this: Next Talk 2021-12-14T17:00Z "Fighting Windows and XMPP - Building a (modern?) Windows XMPP Client" by Fabian Sauter A demo of UWPX. Previous Talks Some (but not all) previous talks can be found on our YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCf3Kq2ElJDFQhYDdjn18RuA Here are a few examples of great talks we've had recently! "Intro to JMAP" by Daniel Gultsch, 2021-04-27 1600 UTC "Intro to XMPP" by Sam Whited Round Table Discussion: "Towards XMPP 2.0" "Cryptographic Identity: Conquering the Fingerprint Chaos" by Paul Schaub (vanitasvitae) "Soprani.ca: bridging us all together" by Stephen Paul Weber (singpolyma) "Designing Message Styling" by Sam Whited "Verifying A/V Calls with OMEMO: The Art of the Hack" by Daniel Gultsch
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emus
on the website
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Sam
Oh, I don't want to do that, it's too much of a pain in the ass to update the website, someone else can if they want
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emus
but then I did not understand where you wanted to migrate it to?
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Sam
I didn't, I never said anything about the website
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Sam
I've been talking about the wiki this whole time, sorry if there was some confusion.
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emus
I was refering to this: "We should probably move it to a separate page if you're going to try to keep it up to date, but I suspect it's just going to get out of date anyways when people forget to update it."
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Sam
*page on the wiki
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emus
ok, but this I don't understand, if we want not not invest more work, we should keep it as it is and I can try to keep it up to day
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Sam
Do what you want, it doesn't matter to me, I'll just keep updating the next talk section and announcing them like I've been doing ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Sam
I'm just not going to update the pad anymore because I don't see the point now that we have a better signup system
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emus
Yes Sam that's fine. But I also need to invest time and do the tweets I have not time for. So I would be happy to align. E.g. I did not know that it is on the XSF calender (I still have no link to)
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Sam
There is a link to the XSF calendar on the wiki, I don't know what it is off the top of my head
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Sam
The next talk is also on the wiki, so that's a good place to pull info from for the tweets.
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Sam
oops, just noticed I put this one on the wrong calendar; moving it to the XSF one.
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emus
yes, I did saw it because I was only looking at the pad I still cannot find the link to the Calendar
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Sam
It's on the wiki homepage. Ctrl+F is your friend.
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emus
ok, that was the most confusing thing ever. I will put it to the XSF Hours page I was looking
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Sam
Sorry about the confusion with the pad, I removed the link to it from the wiki so that people won't find it and will add a note to it saying that it's no longer being updated so as not to confuse anyone else who might have bookmarked it
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Sam
Well, if I can figure out why I can't edit it anymore
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Sam
Fixed.
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Sam
I didn't delete it in case you wanted it though, just added some text linking back to the wiki and saying that up to date information is there.
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emus
kk
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emus
T17:00Z
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emus
is that UTC?
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Sam
yes
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emus
https://fosstodon.org/web/@xmpp/107434778733420543
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emus
https://twitter.com/xmpp/status/1422106632092258304
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emus
ups+
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emus
https://twitter.com/xmpp/status/1470060135850647554
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wurstsalat
emus, announcements can be done here: https://github.com/xsf/xmpp.org/blob/master/data/announcement.json
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emus
ahh
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emus
Join us on Tuesday at XMPP Office Hours 📢 for "Fighting Windows and XMPP - Building a modern Windows XMPP Client" by Fabian Sauter at 17:00 UTC (Tue, 14th of Dec '21) Join here: socialcoop.meet.coop/sam-pku-dud-niv You would like to give a talk? https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/XMPP_Office_Hours https://fosstodon.org/web/@xmpp/107434778733420543 https://twitter.com/xmpp/status/1470060135850647554
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Jeybe
Are the office hours always at 17:00 UTC?
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Jeybe
Ah and totally forgot. German translation of the newsletter is already available: https://anoxinon.de/blog/xmpp_newsletter_november_2021/
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emus
Jebye no
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emus
Many thanks!
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emus
First start: _
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emus
https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/XMPP_Office_Hours#Previous_Talks