emusCOM8: can you tell me a short title? and for what time you propsed? (and its tuesday right?)
nicfabhas joined
emuscan I announce you by your real name?
nicfabhas left
nicfabhas joined
wh0has left
wh0has joined
debaclehas left
debaclehas joined
wh0has left
wh0has joined
Jeybehas joined
nicfabhas left
nicfabhas joined
Nÿcohas left
adiaholichas left
adiaholichas joined
Nÿcohas joined
CybHerohas left
vanitasvitaeXMPP (or Jabber rather) was mentioned as a positive example for interoperability on the German ZDF Magazin Royal: (https://youtu.be/DdIwus87eLM)
nicfabhas left
nicfabhas joined
adiaholichas left
newsfeedhas joined
adiaholichas joined
emushas left
newsfeedhas left
debaclehas left
nicfabhas left
nicfabhas joined
adiaholichas left
adiaholichas joined
newsfeedhas joined
newsfeedhas left
heybobhas left
heybobhas joined
heybobhas left
heybobhas joined
heybobhas left
heybobhas joined
heybobhas left
heybobhas joined
mimi89999has left
kikuchiyohas left
heybobhas left
heybobhas joined
kikuchiyohas joined
adiaholichas left
heybobhas left
heybobhas joined
jcbrandhas joined
heybobhas left
heybobhas joined
adiaholichas joined
heybobhas left
heybobhas joined
adiaholichas left
mimi89999has joined
heybobhas left
heybobhas joined
heybobhas left
heybobhas joined
heybobhas left
heybobhas joined
emushas joined
emus😮
wh0has left
heybobhas left
heybobhas joined
heybobhas left
heybobhas joined
CybHerohas joined
Alexhas left
heybobhas left
heybobhas joined
Alexhas joined
heybobhas left
heybobhas joined
nicfabhas left
heybobhas left
heybobhas joined
Paganinihas joined
heybobhas left
newsfeedhas joined
newsfeedhas left
adiaholichas joined
heybobhas joined
adiaholichas left
adiaholichas joined
emusTL;DR https://youtu.be/DdIwus87eLM?t=844
emusCOM8 & Sam friendly reminder that I need some input
Samemus: it's all on the wiki and the calendar
emushmm but I did not saw it
emusah directly on the website
CybHerohas left
emusits not in the pad yet
SamOh yah, I forgot about the pad. Either way, I said "wiki" not pad :)
emushaha
SamI'll go remove the pad, no sense in keeping up with it now that it's not the signup form, just more things to forget.
emusok but where is the calendar then?
SamThe official XSF calendar? It's also linked from the wiki I think
emusand also tracking of previous talks?
emusI don't think so
SamI don't really care about tracking the previous talks, if someone else wants to do that they can
Sam(probably best to move that to the wiki too instead of continuing to use an external thing)
emusCan you at least do this and we try to ask newcommers to make their entry?
emusOr I do it then
SamDo what?
emusmove it to the wiki too
SamWe shouldn't ask newcommers to fill out the form and do more work. Also most won't have a wiki account
emusor wait
emusmaybe leave the pad just for the moment
SamI can't even edit the pad anymore apparently; weird. Anyways, I'm not going to delete it or anything, but I'll remove it from the wiki page so people don't get confused and use the old thing
emusBecause it wont be able to organise if I cannot see what going on in a list like this
emusno please dont delete
SamI don't understand what you even want to use the pad for; the next talk is on the wiki, people submit a form to request new slots, what does having a separate document with that do?
emusI am just convinced we should have it documented as we have the list of previous talks there at lease
SamWhy?
SamI mean, I'm not against it, I just don't want to do it. The only reason it was a list before was because the pad was being used for signups, but we have a better way to do that now
goffihas left
emusYes agreed. But if people want me to announce it I need some reference. I don't have the link yet and we should place it in the wiki in general.
Yes ok, but then let's find a way to document. I often refer to these topic from a public perspective, the more we do the more important it becomes. A calendar is not useful for this I think
SamThe wiki is a good enough reference, why do we need another one?
emusno, no other one. Just these listed entries we have there on the page: "Previous talks!✎
emusno, no other one. Just these listed entries we have there on the page: "Previous talks" ✏
SamI mean, feel free to update that if you want. I wasn't keeping it up to date, it's just a few examples to get people into watching them.
SamWe should probably move it to a separate page if you're going to try to keep it up to date, but I suspect it's just going to get out of date anyways when people forget to update it.
emusWell, then it would be on the XSF Office Hours page, right?
SamWhat would be?
emuslist of old talks and upcoming?
emushttps://xmpp.org/community/officehours/
emuswurstsalat, don't we had these announcement tiles?
SamI don't understand what you're asking
emusPut this:
Next Talk
2021-12-14T17:00Z "Fighting Windows and XMPP - Building a (modern?) Windows XMPP Client" by Fabian Sauter
A demo of UWPX.
Previous Talks
Some (but not all) previous talks can be found on our YouTube channel:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCf3Kq2ElJDFQhYDdjn18RuA
Here are a few examples of great talks we've had recently!
"Intro to JMAP" by Daniel Gultsch, 2021-04-27 1600 UTC
"Intro to XMPP" by Sam Whited
Round Table Discussion: "Towards XMPP 2.0"
"Cryptographic Identity: Conquering the Fingerprint Chaos" by Paul Schaub (vanitasvitae)
"Soprani.ca: bridging us all together" by Stephen Paul Weber (singpolyma)
"Designing Message Styling" by Sam Whited
"Verifying A/V Calls with OMEMO: The Art of the Hack" by Daniel Gultsch
emuson the website
SamOh, I don't want to do that, it's too much of a pain in the ass to update the website, someone else can if they want
emusbut then I did not understand where you wanted to migrate it to?
SamI didn't, I never said anything about the website
SamI've been talking about the wiki this whole time, sorry if there was some confusion.
emusI was refering to this:
"We should probably move it to a separate page if you're going to try to keep it up to date, but I suspect it's just going to get out of date anyways when people forget to update it."
Sam*page on the wiki
heybobhas left
CybHerohas joined
emusok, but this I don't understand, if we want not not invest more work, we should keep it as it is and I can try to keep it up to day
SamDo what you want, it doesn't matter to me, I'll just keep updating the next talk section and announcing them like I've been doing ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
SamI'm just not going to update the pad anymore because I don't see the point now that we have a better signup system
emusYes Sam that's fine. But I also need to invest time and do the tweets I have not time for. So I would be happy to align. E.g. I did not know that it is on the XSF calender (I still have no link to)
SamThere is a link to the XSF calendar on the wiki, I don't know what it is off the top of my head
SamThe next talk is also on the wiki, so that's a good place to pull info from for the tweets.
Samoops, just noticed I put this one on the wrong calendar; moving it to the XSF one.
emusyes, I did saw it because I was only looking at the pad
I still cannot find the link to the Calendar
SamIt's on the wiki homepage. Ctrl+F is your friend.
emusok, that was the most confusing thing ever. I will put it to the XSF Hours page I was looking
SamSorry about the confusion with the pad, I removed the link to it from the wiki so that people won't find it and will add a note to it saying that it's no longer being updated so as not to confuse anyone else who might have bookmarked it
SamWell, if I can figure out why I can't edit it anymore
SamFixed.
SamI didn't delete it in case you wanted it though, just added some text linking back to the wiki and saying that up to date information is there.
wurstsalatemus, announcements can be done here: https://github.com/xsf/xmpp.org/blob/master/data/announcement.json
kikuchiyohas joined
emusahh
adiaholichas joined
goffihas joined
adiaholichas left
adiaholichas joined
emusJoin us on Tuesday at XMPP Office Hours 📢 for "Fighting Windows and XMPP - Building a modern Windows XMPP Client" by Fabian Sauter at 17:00 UTC (Tue, 14th of Dec '21)
Join here: socialcoop.meet.coop/sam-pku-dud-niv
You would like to give a talk?
https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/XMPP_Office_Hours
https://fosstodon.org/web/@xmpp/107434778733420543
https://twitter.com/xmpp/status/1470060135850647554
newsfeedhas joined
JeybeAre the office hours always at 17:00 UTC?
JeybeAh and totally forgot. German translation of the newsletter is already available: https://anoxinon.de/blog/xmpp_newsletter_november_2021/