XSF Communications Team - 2021-12-12

Sam:

How is it about the OH?

> Next week is COM8 talk? Yes

COM8: can you tell me a short title? and for what time you propsed? (and its tuesday right?)

can I announce you by your real name?

XMPP (or Jabber rather) was mentioned as a positive example for interoperability on the German ZDF Magazin Royal: (https://youtu.be/DdIwus87eLM)

😮

TL;DR https://youtu.be/DdIwus87eLM?t=844

COM8 & Sam friendly reminder that I need some input

emus: it's all on the wiki and the calendar

hmm but I did not saw it

ah directly on the website

its not in the pad yet

Oh yah, I forgot about the pad. Either way, I said "wiki" not pad :)

haha

I'll go remove the pad, no sense in keeping up with it now that it's not the signup form, just more things to forget.

ok but where is the calendar then?

The official XSF calendar? It's also linked from the wiki I think

and also tracking of previous talks?

I don't think so

I don't really care about tracking the previous talks, if someone else wants to do that they can

(probably best to move that to the wiki too instead of continuing to use an external thing)

Can you at least do this and we try to ask newcommers to make their entry?

Or I do it then

Do what?

move it to the wiki too

We shouldn't ask newcommers to fill out the form and do more work. Also most won't have a wiki account

or wait

maybe leave the pad just for the moment

I can't even edit the pad anymore apparently; weird. Anyways, I'm not going to delete it or anything, but I'll remove it from the wiki page so people don't get confused and use the old thing

Because it wont be able to organise if I cannot see what going on in a list like this

no please dont delete

I don't understand what you even want to use the pad for; the next talk is on the wiki, people submit a form to request new slots, what does having a separate document with that do?

I am just convinced we should have it documented as we have the list of previous talks there at lease

Why?

I mean, I'm not against it, I just don't want to do it. The only reason it was a list before was because the pad was being used for signups, but we have a better way to do that now

Yes agreed. But if people want me to announce it I need some reference. I don't have the link yet and we should place it in the wiki in general. Yes ok, but then let's find a way to document. I often refer to these topic from a public perspective, the more we do the more important it becomes. A calendar is not useful for this I think

The wiki is a good enough reference, why do we need another one?

no, no other one. Just these listed entries we have there on the page: "Previous talks" ✏

I mean, feel free to update that if you want. I wasn't keeping it up to date, it's just a few examples to get people into watching them.

We should probably move it to a separate page if you're going to try to keep it up to date, but I suspect it's just going to get out of date anyways when people forget to update it.

Well, then it would be on the XSF Office Hours page, right?

What would be?

list of old talks and upcoming?

https://xmpp.org/community/officehours/

wurstsalat, don't we had these announcement tiles?

I don't understand what you're asking

Put this: Next Talk 2021-12-14T17:00Z "Fighting Windows and XMPP - Building a (modern?) Windows XMPP Client" by Fabian Sauter A demo of UWPX. Previous Talks Some (but not all) previous talks can be found on our YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCf3Kq2ElJDFQhYDdjn18RuA Here are a few examples of great talks we've had recently! "Intro to JMAP" by Daniel Gultsch, 2021-04-27 1600 UTC "Intro to XMPP" by Sam Whited Round Table Discussion: "Towards XMPP 2.0" "Cryptographic Identity: Conquering the Fingerprint Chaos" by Paul Schaub (vanitasvitae) "Soprani.ca: bridging us all together" by Stephen Paul Weber (singpolyma) "Designing Message Styling" by Sam Whited "Verifying A/V Calls with OMEMO: The Art of the Hack" by Daniel Gultsch

on the website

Oh, I don't want to do that, it's too much of a pain in the ass to update the website, someone else can if they want

but then I did not understand where you wanted to migrate it to?

I didn't, I never said anything about the website

I've been talking about the wiki this whole time, sorry if there was some confusion.

I was refering to this: "We should probably move it to a separate page if you're going to try to keep it up to date, but I suspect it's just going to get out of date anyways when people forget to update it."

*page on the wiki

ok, but this I don't understand, if we want not not invest more work, we should keep it as it is and I can try to keep it up to day

Do what you want, it doesn't matter to me, I'll just keep updating the next talk section and announcing them like I've been doing ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I'm just not going to update the pad anymore because I don't see the point now that we have a better signup system

Yes Sam that's fine. But I also need to invest time and do the tweets I have not time for. So I would be happy to align. E.g. I did not know that it is on the XSF calender (I still have no link to)

There is a link to the XSF calendar on the wiki, I don't know what it is off the top of my head

The next talk is also on the wiki, so that's a good place to pull info from for the tweets.

oops, just noticed I put this one on the wrong calendar; moving it to the XSF one.

yes, I did saw it because I was only looking at the pad I still cannot find the link to the Calendar

It's on the wiki homepage. Ctrl+F is your friend.

ok, that was the most confusing thing ever. I will put it to the XSF Hours page I was looking

Sorry about the confusion with the pad, I removed the link to it from the wiki so that people won't find it and will add a note to it saying that it's no longer being updated so as not to confuse anyone else who might have bookmarked it

Well, if I can figure out why I can't edit it anymore

Fixed.

I didn't delete it in case you wanted it though, just added some text linking back to the wiki and saying that up to date information is there.

kk

T17:00Z

is that UTC?

yes

https://fosstodon.org/web/@xmpp/107434778733420543

https://twitter.com/xmpp/status/1422106632092258304

ups+

https://twitter.com/xmpp/status/1470060135850647554

emus, announcements can be done here: https://github.com/xsf/xmpp.org/blob/master/data/announcement.json

ahh

Join us on Tuesday at XMPP Office Hours 📢 for "Fighting Windows and XMPP - Building a modern Windows XMPP Client" by Fabian Sauter at 17:00 UTC (Tue, 14th of Dec '21) Join here: socialcoop.meet.coop/sam-pku-dud-niv You would like to give a talk? https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/XMPP_Office_Hours https://fosstodon.org/web/@xmpp/107434778733420543 https://twitter.com/xmpp/status/1470060135850647554

Are the office hours always at 17:00 UTC?

Ah and totally forgot. German translation of the newsletter is already available: https://anoxinon.de/blog/xmpp_newsletter_november_2021/

Jebye no

Many thanks!

First start: _

https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/XMPP_Office_Hours#Previous_Talks