XSF Communications Team - 2021-12-14

I will tweet an reminder announcement I think this time

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Reverting changes to the office hours wiki page, FYI. I know I said "do whatever" but this is impossible to read now. Put the table on another page if you want it for some reason.

ahh I put 45 mins into it, please do net delete

I'm sorry you spent so much time on it, but it's just clutter on the page that's not necessary and distracts from the actual content.

You can still get it from the history and add it to another page.

We don't need a list of every single talk we've ever done there, just an example or two.

As said, I would like to have one. You don't need to maintain it

Put it on a different page and link to it then.

It's just distracting on the page about office hours, we want to encourage people to sign up and figure out when the current one is, not give them a giant page with a huge scroll bar that they'll just navigate away from quickly.

ok, but I thought sign up is maintained through xmpp.org

It is? I don't know what you mean, sorry

https://xmpp.org/community/officehours/

That's correct

People who find it via the wiki page are pointed to that page

Sam, is this message free of errors:

XMPP Office Hours 📢 start in about 30 minutes! "Fighting Windows and XMPP - Building a modern Windows XMPP Client" by Fabian Sauter Join: https://socialcoop.meet.coop/sam-pku-dud-niv #XMPP #Windows10 #UWPX

I think we're past Windows 10 now, maybe just #windows? Otherwise LGTM

ahh auto tag

https://fosstodon.org/web/@xmpp/107446244343487282 https://twitter.com/xmpp/status/1470793873291161610

Starting now!

I don't see anything.

Ok, another browser works. Seems my firefox is too strict.

Firefox needs permission to use Canvas IIRC and it doesn't actually pop anything up, just puts a tiny icon in the address bar telling you it wants various permissions

Sam, can you tell the audience after the entrie talk but incl. recording how to onboard to the office hours?

Will do

cool

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Sam, why can the table not be at the very end of the page, so all important stuff is above. If one is really interested in old ones, they can scroll and also sort through the list, right?

Because it's cluttered and not useful. We don't want to scare people off with tons of unnecessary information.

but how is it scaring them, if they can read the details on the top and engage in more details below

Without having looked at the page myself: It takes time for people to scan a page for valuable information. I'd like to see a "Previous Topics" link (to a separate page) more than having a list on the first page

https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Previous_talks

https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/XMPP_Office_Hours ✏

wurstsalat, if I create the json, could you think of something rendered on the XSF Office hours page

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then we can remove the wiki page

or would that all I need to create a previous_talk.html ? https://github.com/xsf/xmpp.org/blob/master/themes/xmpp.org/layouts/shortcodes/books.html

don't you think the wiki is a suitable place, emus?

Well, we advertise first the .org site, and there you can also see talks in the list I think it would look way more professional to have it there. If one still wants to go to the wiki they can do

If only we had automatic website deployment :)

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