XSF Communications Team - 2022-01-01


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  14. emus

    https://jabbers.one:5281/upload/jIgc3sCympNWL1Rn/20220101_013718464.m4a

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  16. emus

    yes I send a voice message

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  18. Sam

    Thanks emus, happy new year to you too!

  19. emus

    Many Thanks ☺

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  24. Ingolf

    'Literatur Café 7' xmpp:test-ccc-1@conference.monocles.de?join Der entsprechende 'Jitsi Meet' Raum: https://meet.ffmuc.net/LiteraturCafé7

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  127. praveen

    https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-build-meta/-/issues/454#note_1344288 should we respond to this claim? gnome is big and influential project.

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  193. Licaon_Kter

    praveen: the toot that emus made above might be good :)

  194. emus

    I cant follow 100% what wou'd be the response?

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  236. Licaon_Kter

    praveen: this sounds good? https://fosstodon.org/@xmpp/107468589197565911

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  239. Licaon_Kter

    > Snikket Private XMPP Chat on Oracle Cloud Free Tier - Virtually Potato https://www.virtuallypotato.com/snikket-private-xmpp-chat-on-oracle-cloud-free-tier/

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  254. praveen

    Licaon_Kter, I doubt anything will change their mind. But shared here in case someone is more optimistic than me.

  255. singpolyma

    Licaon_Kter: oof, that mastodon thread is a disaster. Dogpile-defense against someone who just had an opinion about their own usage

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  258. emus

    Do you think at least our reply was not good?

  259. singpolyma

    emus: I think the reply from @xmpp was ok, but the ensuing dogpile is a bad look on the community

  260. emus

    Yes, but I cannot prevent this

  261. singpolyma

    I know

  262. emus

    apart from interrupting here and there. But I need to be told where it happens. So let us know if you see somthing

  263. Ramiro Romani

    tbh i dont know how people can reach these opinions. feels like they havent touched the xmpp ecosystem since after 2019

  264. Licaon_Kter

    singpolyma: the post is short and on point, to dismiss the FUD The sht they post its their own, we can't change their mind they need to do it themselves.

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  267. singpolyma

    Ramiro Romani: ehn, it's about use case and your corner of the world. Jabber has worked well for me in mobile since I got my second mobile device in ~2010 or so, but many people needed a good Android app and that was a long time coming. Some need r good iOS app and that's only really become a reality recently. Some want to send GIF or custom emoji a lot and most clients are still bad at both

  268. singpolyma

    Or if you have friends who do use Jabber but all insist on using TUI clients or biboumi or something then you may think things don't work well because what you want doesn't match what your friends havn

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  270. singpolyma

    GIF, custom emoji, and link unrolling are all pretty high on my list if I ever get time to work on client stuff because so many of my contacts effectively need one of those

  271. Licaon_Kter

    Link preview?

  272. singpolyma

    Licaon_Kter: yeah

  273. Licaon_Kter

    Can TURN be (ab)used as a proxy? Surely I'm not the first to think of this...

  274. singpolyma

    A proxy for what?

  275. Licaon_Kter

    Anonymize link preview...

  276. singpolyma

    Oh, you mean if target client wants to fetch a preview? Yeah, that's just not a good client design, there's no good way to make it work IMO

  277. singpolyma

    TURN cannot be used for that, but even if it could you would be sending all links to your server

  278. Licaon_Kter

    Yeah, many solutions, each with its own faults :(

  279. singpolyma

    The only way really is to either have the sending client at metadata, or to have a server or muc component add it, the latter only works if unencrypted if course

  280. singpolyma

    The only way really is to either have the sending client at metadata, or to have a server or muc component add it, the latter only works if unencrypted of course

  281. singpolyma

    But neither of these is hard, just have to do it :)

  282. singpolyma

    I think building rendering for the metadata to client, and then allowing MUC to annotate would be good first step

  283. Licaon_Kter

    What's the point exactly? Skipping a click/touch?

  284. singpolyma

    With media links especially can mean image or video inline in chat instead of opening browser for example

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  298. Ramiro Romani

    singpolyma: this is definitely needed!

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