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emus
but whats the setup now?
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neox
> hmm my mobile browser does not want me to do it... > PDFs are in: static/images/promo > .md are in: content/community/ Ok thanks emus
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TheCoffeMaker
emus, hi there ... let me know with which articles we can carry on
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emus
TheCoffeMaker: I will check if I see something good. but for the moment is alright. but more important than doing "more" wouod be to continuously translate the newsletter. I will advertise this soon and I think keeping up this "service" and work is the biggest challenge
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TheCoffeMaker
yeah ... that's the challenge ... good ... we have +2 contributors so far
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emus
Lets not overkill it right away. the next newsletter release is upcoming so lets get your friends fine with it first. but highly appreciated
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TheCoffeMaker
👌️ ... that's the idea
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emus
In that regard speaking 🙂🙂🙂 Good tine to remind the next release 🎉🎉 https://yopad.eu/p/xmpp-newsletter-365days
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TheCoffeMaker
👏️
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emus
TheCoffeMaker: but speak of support - if you want to help. We could really need support in the PR drafting, text formulation and reviewing process of the newsletter. Or pre-drafting the Tweets. if you or others want to hook in here too that would be a great support
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TheCoffeMaker
sure!
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emus
TheCoffeMaker: If you want, you can start reviewing the link I placed there. If there are just bare links and things are formatted in markdown order (But I have to say that all you guys are doing really well since we started one year ago, I did not expected so much discipline! My bad!)
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emus
if you want then you can look if there are some nice pictures 2-3 we could use
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TheCoffeMaker
thx ... sure ... I'm starting a meeting ... ping u later
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emus
TheCoffeMaker: ok, let me know how it works. my target is to distribute the works in small pieces so many people can support and reduce workload per person. so everyone else is invited, too
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TheCoffeMaker
great ... sounds right ... I think is the way to go too
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emus
👍 so, as said start small, but try to keep it on a continous basis. but of course every help is appreciate, even if short term
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praveen
Anyone here knows the channel for join.jabber.network ?
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Licaon_Kter
praveen: you lost it?
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Licaon_Kter
xmpp:chat@joinjabber.org?join
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praveen
Licaon_Kter: no, that is a different project
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Licaon_Kter
Oh, noticed after
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praveen
I was under the same impression too, but joinjabber.org is different project
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Licaon_Kter
That's more like a template site, that you can use to share your ID
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praveen
I realized this after suggesting some changes there
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praveen
Yes, I'd like more clients listed there
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praveen
At least for android (quicksy, blabber.im and monocles chat)
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Licaon_Kter
The changes are better asked in the main repo https://github.com/ge0rg/easy-xmpp-invitation
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praveen
Thanks, I will open issues there, it'd be nice if the footer linked to this repo already
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emus
https://fosstodon.org/web/@xmpp/107843757665399361 https://twitter.com/xmpp/status/1496234793213825026
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emus
TheCoffeMaker - if you guys are really really bored, you can of course translate the old newsletter publications. but let's not put too much energy here. All the other task are more important and will have more impact
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TheCoffeMaker
emus, 👌️ ... will ask if someone is bored first 😅️
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emus
haha
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emus
so, Tinyletter is still not unlocking the account to send mails. I send a second inquiry, but I assume this story is over. Any good and privacyfriendly alternatives?
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singpolyma
Sourcehut mailing list?
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singpolyma
Or really any mailing list, I just know they have hosted
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singpolyma
We're boring and use mailman
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emus
What we need is a distributor, but not a maillist. dunno if that could work
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singpolyma
You mean a mail server? I usually use mailgun when I don't want to use one that I run
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singpolyma
Can send a lot of emails for basically no money
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emus
https://www.mailgun.com/
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MattJ
Cons: have to deal with mailman
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emus
no money means?
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MattJ
On the other hand, we already have a mailman installation
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MattJ
It's just very out of date as far as I know
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singpolyma
It's not like it changes much. Especially for an announce list
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emus
35$ seems to be a bit of too much for 300 subscribers (other 300 does not read or bots)
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emus
I dont know whats best. I can also not tell as cannit do a potential setup
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singpolyma
It would be $1 no $35
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singpolyma
$1 per 1000 emails
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emus
no, the 35$ is the minimum plan I understood, then everything more than 10k at this rate
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singpolyma
$35 is the second plan. You can stay in flex plan forever. I have used it for years
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singpolyma
No monthly fee
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MattJ
I do the same, but I'm sure the pricing page never used to be this misleading (if they haven't changed the plans)
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singpolyma
MattJ: if you scroll way down the pricing page there's a paragraph that says you can stay on flex under the questions
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singpolyma
But yeah, they definitely want to push you to foundation
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MattJ
Ah yeah, good find
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singpolyma
When I signed but that 5k free was every month, but now you have to pay the dollar✎ -
singpolyma
When I signed up that 5k free was every month, but now you have to pay the dollar ✏
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MattJ
But does Mailgun have list management?
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MattJ
I've only ever used it for transactional stuff mostly
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MattJ
i.e. as an API (HTTP/SMTP)
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MattJ
But TinyLetter is/was more than that
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singpolyma
They have your bounce detection etc. But yeah, you gotta plug mailman or WordPress or something into it
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emus
MattJ: if its 1$ can we have it (if you think thats a good solution?)
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MattJ
Sure, but it's only part of the solution
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MattJ
We actually already have an XSF mail server, so it's mostly the part we don't need
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MattJ
I'm heading to bed, but we can discuss options tomorroe✎ -
MattJ
I'm heading to bed, but we can discuss options tomorrow ✏
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singpolyma
If your mailserver deliverability is ok and you have mailman already and you don't want bounce handling or whatever (which for 300, no need IMO) seems like you could do it all in house without adding anything new
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emus
ok but I was told we cannot send? and do we have a subscription form?
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emus
MattJ: good night
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emus
singpolyma: and the form?
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singpolyma
Mailman has a form. If you want a custom one instead it's pretty easy for me to knock something up in any stack that can deploy where it needs to go
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emus
ok and that html piece is fine
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emus
cannot find it anymore
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emus
singpolyma: ok great
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emus
lets talk tomorrow