XSF Communications Team - 2022-02-22

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  68. emus but whats the setup now?
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  74. neox > hmm my mobile browser does not want me to do it... > PDFs are in: static/images/promo > .md are in: content/community/ Ok thanks emus
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  109. TheCoffeMaker emus, hi there ... let me know with which articles we can carry on
  110. emus TheCoffeMaker: I will check if I see something good. but for the moment is alright. but more important than doing "more" wouod be to continuously translate the newsletter. I will advertise this soon and I think keeping up this "service" and work is the biggest challenge
  111. TheCoffeMaker yeah ... that's the challenge ... good ... we have +2 contributors so far
  112. emus Lets not overkill it right away. the next newsletter release is upcoming so lets get your friends fine with it first. but highly appreciated
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  114. TheCoffeMaker 👌️ ... that's the idea
  115. emus In that regard speaking 🙂🙂🙂 Good tine to remind the next release 🎉🎉 https://yopad.eu/p/xmpp-newsletter-365days
  116. TheCoffeMaker 👏️
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  118. emus TheCoffeMaker: but speak of support - if you want to help. We could really need support in the PR drafting, text formulation and reviewing process of the newsletter. Or pre-drafting the Tweets. if you or others want to hook in here too that would be a great support
  119. TheCoffeMaker sure!
  120. emus TheCoffeMaker: If you want, you can start reviewing the link I placed there. If there are just bare links and things are formatted in markdown order (But I have to say that all you guys are doing really well since we started one year ago, I did not expected so much discipline! My bad!)
  121. emus if you want then you can look if there are some nice pictures 2-3 we could use
  122. TheCoffeMaker thx ... sure ... I'm starting a meeting ... ping u later
  123. emus TheCoffeMaker: ok, let me know how it works. my target is to distribute the works in small pieces so many people can support and reduce workload per person. so everyone else is invited, too
  124. TheCoffeMaker great ... sounds right ... I think is the way to go too
  125. emus 👍 so, as said start small, but try to keep it on a continous basis. but of course every help is appreciate, even if short term
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  175. praveen Anyone here knows the channel for join.jabber.network ?
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  181. Licaon_Kter praveen: you lost it?
  182. Licaon_Kter xmpp:chat@joinjabber.org?join
  183. praveen Licaon_Kter: no, that is a different project
  184. Licaon_Kter Oh, noticed after
  185. praveen I was under the same impression too, but joinjabber.org is different project
  186. Licaon_Kter That's more like a template site, that you can use to share your ID
  187. praveen I realized this after suggesting some changes there
  188. praveen Yes, I'd like more clients listed there
  189. praveen At least for android (quicksy, blabber.im and monocles chat)
  190. Licaon_Kter The changes are better asked in the main repo https://github.com/ge0rg/easy-xmpp-invitation
  191. praveen Thanks, I will open issues there, it'd be nice if the footer linked to this repo already
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  238. emus https://fosstodon.org/web/@xmpp/107843757665399361 https://twitter.com/xmpp/status/1496234793213825026
  239. emus TheCoffeMaker - if you guys are really really bored, you can of course translate the old newsletter publications. but let's not put too much energy here. All the other task are more important and will have more impact
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  241. TheCoffeMaker emus, 👌️ ... will ask if someone is bored first 😅️
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  243. emus haha
  244. emus so, Tinyletter is still not unlocking the account to send mails. I send a second inquiry, but I assume this story is over. Any good and privacyfriendly alternatives?
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  251. singpolyma Sourcehut mailing list?
  252. singpolyma Or really any mailing list, I just know they have hosted
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  254. singpolyma We're boring and use mailman
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  256. emus What we need is a distributor, but not a maillist. dunno if that could work
  257. singpolyma You mean a mail server? I usually use mailgun when I don't want to use one that I run
  258. singpolyma Can send a lot of emails for basically no money
  259. emus https://www.mailgun.com/
  260. MattJ Cons: have to deal with mailman
  261. emus no money means?
  262. MattJ On the other hand, we already have a mailman installation
  263. MattJ It's just very out of date as far as I know
  264. singpolyma It's not like it changes much. Especially for an announce list
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  267. emus 35$ seems to be a bit of too much for 300 subscribers (other 300 does not read or bots)
  268. emus I dont know whats best. I can also not tell as cannit do a potential setup
  269. singpolyma It would be $1 no $35
  270. singpolyma $1 per 1000 emails
  271. emus no, the 35$ is the minimum plan I understood, then everything more than 10k at this rate
  272. singpolyma $35 is the second plan. You can stay in flex plan forever. I have used it for years
  273. singpolyma No monthly fee
  274. MattJ I do the same, but I'm sure the pricing page never used to be this misleading (if they haven't changed the plans)
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  276. singpolyma MattJ: if you scroll way down the pricing page there's a paragraph that says you can stay on flex under the questions
  277. singpolyma But yeah, they definitely want to push you to foundation
  278. MattJ Ah yeah, good find
  279. singpolyma When I signed but that 5k free was every month, but now you have to pay the dollar
  280. singpolyma When I signed up that 5k free was every month, but now you have to pay the dollar
  281. MattJ But does Mailgun have list management?
  282. MattJ I've only ever used it for transactional stuff mostly
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  284. MattJ i.e. as an API (HTTP/SMTP)
  285. MattJ But TinyLetter is/was more than that
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  287. singpolyma They have your bounce detection etc. But yeah, you gotta plug mailman or WordPress or something into it
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  290. emus MattJ: if its 1$ can we have it (if you think thats a good solution?)
  291. MattJ Sure, but it's only part of the solution
  292. MattJ We actually already have an XSF mail server, so it's mostly the part we don't need
  293. MattJ I'm heading to bed, but we can discuss options tomorroe
  294. MattJ I'm heading to bed, but we can discuss options tomorrow
  295. singpolyma If your mailserver deliverability is ok and you have mailman already and you don't want bounce handling or whatever (which for 300, no need IMO) seems like you could do it all in house without adding anything new
  296. emus ok but I was told we cannot send? and do we have a subscription form?
  297. emus MattJ: good night
  298. emus singpolyma: and the form?
  299. singpolyma Mailman has a form. If you want a custom one instead it's pretty easy for me to knock something up in any stack that can deploy where it needs to go
  300. emus ok and that html piece is fine
  301. emus cannot find it anymore
  302. emus singpolyma: ok great
  303. emus lets talk tomorrow
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