XSF Communications Team - 2022-02-22

but whats the setup now?

> hmm my mobile browser does not want me to do it... > PDFs are in: static/images/promo > .md are in: content/community/ Ok thanks emus

emus, hi there ... let me know with which articles we can carry on

TheCoffeMaker: I will check if I see something good. but for the moment is alright. but more important than doing "more" wouod be to continuously translate the newsletter. I will advertise this soon and I think keeping up this "service" and work is the biggest challenge

yeah ... that's the challenge ... good ... we have +2 contributors so far

Lets not overkill it right away. the next newsletter release is upcoming so lets get your friends fine with it first. but highly appreciated

👌️ ... that's the idea

In that regard speaking 🙂🙂🙂 Good tine to remind the next release 🎉🎉 https://yopad.eu/p/xmpp-newsletter-365days

👏️

TheCoffeMaker: but speak of support - if you want to help. We could really need support in the PR drafting, text formulation and reviewing process of the newsletter. Or pre-drafting the Tweets. if you or others want to hook in here too that would be a great support

sure!

TheCoffeMaker: If you want, you can start reviewing the link I placed there. If there are just bare links and things are formatted in markdown order (But I have to say that all you guys are doing really well since we started one year ago, I did not expected so much discipline! My bad!)

if you want then you can look if there are some nice pictures 2-3 we could use

thx ... sure ... I'm starting a meeting ... ping u later

TheCoffeMaker: ok, let me know how it works. my target is to distribute the works in small pieces so many people can support and reduce workload per person. so everyone else is invited, too

great ... sounds right ... I think is the way to go too

👍 so, as said start small, but try to keep it on a continous basis. but of course every help is appreciate, even if short term

Anyone here knows the channel for join.jabber.network ?

praveen: you lost it?

xmpp:chat@joinjabber.org?join

Licaon_Kter: no, that is a different project

Oh, noticed after

I was under the same impression too, but joinjabber.org is different project

That's more like a template site, that you can use to share your ID

I realized this after suggesting some changes there

Yes, I'd like more clients listed there

At least for android (quicksy, blabber.im and monocles chat)

The changes are better asked in the main repo https://github.com/ge0rg/easy-xmpp-invitation

Thanks, I will open issues there, it'd be nice if the footer linked to this repo already

https://fosstodon.org/web/@xmpp/107843757665399361 https://twitter.com/xmpp/status/1496234793213825026

TheCoffeMaker - if you guys are really really bored, you can of course translate the old newsletter publications. but let's not put too much energy here. All the other task are more important and will have more impact

emus, 👌️ ... will ask if someone is bored first 😅️

haha

so, Tinyletter is still not unlocking the account to send mails. I send a second inquiry, but I assume this story is over. Any good and privacyfriendly alternatives?

Sourcehut mailing list?

Or really any mailing list, I just know they have hosted

We're boring and use mailman

What we need is a distributor, but not a maillist. dunno if that could work

You mean a mail server? I usually use mailgun when I don't want to use one that I run

Can send a lot of emails for basically no money

https://www.mailgun.com/

Cons: have to deal with mailman

no money means?

On the other hand, we already have a mailman installation

It's just very out of date as far as I know

It's not like it changes much. Especially for an announce list

35$ seems to be a bit of too much for 300 subscribers (other 300 does not read or bots)

I dont know whats best. I can also not tell as cannit do a potential setup

It would be $1 no $35

$1 per 1000 emails

no, the 35$ is the minimum plan I understood, then everything more than 10k at this rate

$35 is the second plan. You can stay in flex plan forever. I have used it for years

No monthly fee

I do the same, but I'm sure the pricing page never used to be this misleading (if they haven't changed the plans)

MattJ: if you scroll way down the pricing page there's a paragraph that says you can stay on flex under the questions

But yeah, they definitely want to push you to foundation

Ah yeah, good find

When I signed up that 5k free was every month, but now you have to pay the dollar ✏

But does Mailgun have list management?

I've only ever used it for transactional stuff mostly

i.e. as an API (HTTP/SMTP)

But TinyLetter is/was more than that

They have your bounce detection etc. But yeah, you gotta plug mailman or WordPress or something into it

MattJ: if its 1$ can we have it (if you think thats a good solution?)

Sure, but it's only part of the solution

We actually already have an XSF mail server, so it's mostly the part we don't need

I'm heading to bed, but we can discuss options tomorrow ✏

If your mailserver deliverability is ok and you have mailman already and you don't want bounce handling or whatever (which for 300, no need IMO) seems like you could do it all in house without adding anything new

ok but I was told we cannot send? and do we have a subscription form?

MattJ: good night

singpolyma: and the form?

Mailman has a form. If you want a custom one instead it's pretty easy for me to knock something up in any stack that can deploy where it needs to go

ok and that html piece is fine

cannot find it anymore

singpolyma: ok great

lets talk tomorrow