XSF Communications Team - 2022-09-16


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  175. Schimon Licaon_Kter: Good news!
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  177. Licaon_Kter But is it though?
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  181. singpolyma More money in xmpp freedomware and if we're lucky more features in an xmpp client. Seems all good?
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  184. Licaon_Kter Too good to be true, what's next, group video calls cross platform? Madness :))
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  186. MattJ Many good things in the XMPP ecosystem in recent years are thanks to NLnet funding. I've no reason to doubt it's true :)
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  188. Licaon_Kter What NLnet lacks, or better said, what EU lacks (atm) is long term funding, as this spot funds help of course, but the project should be alive and maintained next year too. (No, not stickers but updates, fixes, polish, etc)
  189. singpolyma Yes. If more projects were ready to raise that kind of funds there might be more options to try to get them, but it's a hard problem in both sides a bit for sure
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  191. MattJ Licaon_Kter, can't say I disagree with that. For example, the stuff I'm working on that they funded is stuff that needed to be done, but probably wouldn't have been my priority. But it's much harder to get funding for bug fixes and polish than for new features (especially related to security!).
  192. MattJ It's not that what I'm doing isn't important, just that it probably wouldn't have been by #1 priority
  193. MattJ or I would have done it in smaller steps, interleaved with other stuff
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  195. Licaon_Kter EU has all those digital commons programms, public money public code stuff, interoperability or wants to have whatever, so stuff like this (xmpp) should be treated as infrastructure instead.
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  197. singpolyma Grant programs are just already understood I think, since the same happens for arts etc
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  199. singpolyma Long term funding sounds more like being an employee or like basic income
  200. Licaon_Kter Not sure how many of NLnet are still around and used/maintained, eg. OpenPush is dead
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  202. singpolyma IMO if one is going to do grants one needs to inject to an already healthy project or something that seems like it has at least a solid plan to become so. It's like an investment where the return is the project improving
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