https://matthewwild.co.uk/uploads/XMPP%202023%20news%20round%20up%20-%20draft%202.pdf
This is a draft of something I'm planning to print for the stand at FOSDEM.
MattJ
goffi, papatutuwawa, singpolyma: there are pieces about your projects, so if there's anything you'd like me to change/correct, let me know
MattJ
+ jcbrand ^
la|r|mahas joined
goffi
MattJ: neat, thanks for doing that. I'll change the official website from salut-a-toi.org to libervia.org before FOSDEM, thus it would be good to change the URL (there will be redirection though).
jcbrand
Hi MattJ, there's been an electron version of Converse since much longer, so it's not 100% accurate
MattJ
goffi, great, yes, that would be less confusing indeed :)
MattJ
jcbrand, how much do you care? (this is marketing material after all, rather than a technical spec)
MattJ
Unless you want to also promote the Electron version still
jcbrand
I think the people who created the electron version and maintain it might care
MattJ
Okay
MattJ
I'll find another way of wording it then
pep.
The second page is supposed to be blank?
jcbrand
Not super important IMO, but you asked for feedback. I would probably just mention that it already has an electron version and now gets Tauri as well
pep.
(or is it my reader failing)
MattJ
pep., the second page isn't supposed to be there, sorry
pep.
Ok
MattJ
But it is there, and blank
jcbrand
And leave the rest as is
papatutuwawa
MattJ: Thanks for including my client ποΈ The only thing I would correct is that my client is not called "MoxxyV2". It's just "Moxxy". I recently renamed the repositories because it seems to confuse people.
jcbrand
A lot of people don't know about the electron version either, so the title can stay the way it is IMO
MattJ
papatutuwawa, great, I'll fix that
pep.
hot take: justified take is ugly :x
pep.
Otherwise thanks for doing this :)
MattJ
Yeah, space is limited though
MattJ
I'm not set on it, but I have limited time
pep.
I guess we could reuse/update stuff like this also for JDLL, or other coming conferences
pep.
It's always good to have a base
pep.
justified text* ><
papatutuwawa
I also want to say thanks for taking the time to create this ποΈ
MattJ
Thanks :)
MattJ
My goals are to show people that XMPP is busy, and introduce them to a range of projects they may not know exist
MattJ
There are more I could have included, but time and space... maybe next year we can go bigger :)
praveenhas left
MattJ
Also if anyone wants anything printed (even/especially if you won't be at FOSDEM), I can get stuff printed if you send it to me in the next few days
MattJ
e.g. edhelas sent me some posters for Movim
MattJ
We have stands for A5 format. Last time they only contained Snikket flyers, but I'm hoping we can get a more diverse range of projects on display this year
pep.
And there's lots of people in K1, at least you'r not in that small corner of the building :P
pep.
People had to know there was something going on there
MattJ
We'll no longer be able to capture people as they try to obtain refreshments from the vending machines
MattJ
or find the elevator
MattJ
In case of doubt: I'm not saying the new position is worse
MattJ
I'll reserve judgement until we've tried it :)
MattJ
I agree the old place was definitely "hidden", and often blocked by people, though I think it had some advantages. But even just being in a new location is probably a good thing.
MattJ
I don't know if there will be space for the projector this year
MattJ
If we're where I think we are, IIRC the "wall" behind us is actually just glass
jcbrand
The old place wasn't great IMO
jcbrand
IMO foot traffic of people passing by is better than the odd refreshment seeker, and we had very little foot traffic (due to being tucked away around the corner)
goffi
I also think that the old location was not really good.
goffi
MattJ: will there a place where we can print something, like a schedule? As I don't make talk this year, I was wondering maybe we could schedule demos on the booth?
MattJ
Yeah, we could definitely do that!
MattJ
I was thinking of a sheet with a schedule of XMPP-related talks
Jeybehas left
MattJ
We can include demos on that
Jeybehas joined
goffi
I'll see if I can print some flyer too, unfortunaly with the name change and all, I think that I can't reuse my current stock.
intosihas left
intosihas joined
MattJ
jcbrand, this revision better? https://matthewwild.co.uk/uploads/XMPP%202023%20news%20round%20up%20-%20draft%203.pdf (also incorporated other feedback)
jcbrand
Great, thanks MattJ !
gooyahas joined
la|r|mahas left
la|r|mahas joined
la|r|mahas left
la|r|mahas joined
intosihas left
intosihas joined
MattJ
goffi, do you want to commit to demo times in advance?
oh I was thinking about something handwritten on the spot, but that's nice of course. I need to check the talks that I want to see, but in any case I would rather do it on Saturday cause I'll have to leave to catch my transport on Sunday afternoon.
MattJ
I can (and was planning to) leave space to write stuff on when we're there, so it's fine
intosihas left
intosihas joined
intosihas left
intosihas joined
TheCoffeMakerhas left
TheCoffeMakerhas joined
la|r|mahas left
la|r|mahas joined
la|r|mahas left
la|r|mahas joined
papatutuwawahas left
singpolyma
MattJ: I agree with pep. that it would probably look better without the justified, especially on such small columns.
For the schedule at the stand, this: https://matthewwild.co.uk/uploads/screenshot-20230123-1674483006-15285.png
MattJ
I think I'll write a very quick blog post after lunch for xmpp.org with links to talks and resources, and put a QR in that space at the top right
MattJ
That will give people a path to find the talks easily if they are using a schedule app for the conference (which supports reminders, room finding, etc.)
MattJ
and the blog post will also serve as an announcement we'll be there
Ramiro Romanihas joined
Wojtekhas joined
goffi
MattJ: why did you add "/news" at the end of https://libervia.org ? just libervia.org is fine.
Stefanhas left
Stefanhas joined
goffi
otherwise it's great
goffi
random note: it's bit weird to see XSF on fosstodon and twitter, but not on⦠XMPP :-/.
pep.
Yeah I agree.. the XSF should really dogfood their own protocol :/
MattJ
goffi, because the article is about the ActivityPub gateway, which is not mentioned at all on https://salut-a-toi.org/ but is on https://salut-a-toi.org/news
goffi
oh OK I see. I should probably add ActivityPub somewhere in the frontpage, but I'll wait it to be stable first.
la|r|mahas left
la|r|mahas joined
la|r|mahas left
la|r|mahas joined
la|r|mahas left
la|r|mahas joined
la|r|mahas left
la|r|mahas joined
la|r|mahas left
la|r|mahas joined
la|r|mahas left
la|r|mahas joined
emus
> MattJ:
> 2023-01-23 01:00 (GMT+01:00)
> My goals are to show people that XMPP is busy, and introduce them to a range of projects they may not know exist
ππ
la|r|mahas left
la|r|mahas joined
pep.
MattJ, is this going to be distributed btw? Or displayed here and there?
MattJ
I plan to give away copies of the newsletter
emus
> MattJ:
> 2023-01-23 03:11 (GMT+01:00)
> I think I'll write a very quick blog post after lunch for xmpp.org with links to talks and resources, and put a QR in that space at the top right
please, but may I review?
la|r|mahas left
la|r|mahas joined
emus
pep., goffi: what exactly do you want to see?
emus
> MattJ:
> 2023-01-23 04:21 (GMT+01:00)
> I plan to give away copies of the newsletter
mee too π
pep.
to see?
emus
or we make something out of the highlights collection
la|r|mahas left
la|r|mahas joined
emus
> pep.:
> 2023-01-23 04:26 (GMT+01:00)
> to see?
you said something about twitter
pep.
We said something about the XSF not advertizing XMPP communication channels
pep.
Fwiw I'm not saying it had to be on this exact flyer, unless we're talking about MUC (which is also fine). I just think it'd be good to finally think about using pubsub/microblog
emus
> pep.:
> 2023-01-23 04:27 (GMT+01:00)
> We said something about the XSF not advertizing XMPP communication channels
But atually I do
pep.
Ah?
emus
I posted for Gsoc and Summit via mail and chats
pep.
Ok, I guess we're talking about stuff like this flyer or newsletter content or..
pep.
-this flyer, newsletter content really, blog articles etc.?
pep.
goffi, ^
goffi
emus: I would like to see XSF publishing to XMPP microblog
goffi
which really should not be called microblog, so let's just say XEP-0277.
la|r|mahas left
la|r|mahas joined
la|r|mahas left
la|r|mahas joined
emushas left
emushas joined
emus
pep.: Yes, but I used to drop it in the official xsf mucs too. I wonder if I should spam other chats
emus
goffi: if you help me with this I would support it
la|r|mahas left
la|r|mahas joined
goffi
emus: most important is to have an account with decent pubsub service (any up-to-date XMPP server should do it), then you can either use Libervia or Movim to post on it. I can help you with Libervia sure. Will you be at summit/FOSDEM?
emus
goffi: yes!
emus
lets get that started
goffi
cool, let's find some time there then. I'll be in Brussels from 1 to 5.
emus
me too :-) soo much time. I will not really have big schedule, so I go with you. what about Thu, 1pm
la|r|mahas left
la|r|mahas joined
goffi
Thursday is in the middle of the summit isn't it? I guess we'll have either lunch, demo, or heater discussion on MUC vs MIX at this time.
Ramiro Romanihas left
la|r|mahas left
la|r|mahas joined
Ramiro Romanihas joined
wurstsalat
MattJ: I could add a frontpage banner on xmpp.org, linking to your blog post (like we had for some sprints)
la|r|mahas left
MattJ
Ah, that would be great :)
MSavoritias (fae,ve)has left
papatutuwawahas left
papatutuwawahas joined
eevvoorhas joined
praveenhas left
eevvoorhas left
eevvoorhas joined
patascahas left
Ramiro Romanihas left
praveenhas joined
Ramiro Romanihas joined
emushas left
Wojtekhas left
MattJ
PR submitted for the blog post: https://github.com/xsf/xmpp.org/pull/1236
Wojtekhas joined
me9has joined
Katherinehas joined
emushas joined
adiaholichas left
adiaholichas joined
adiaholichas left
adiaholichas joined
pablohas joined
pablohas left
adiaholichas left
adiaholichas joined
Ramiro Romanihas left
Katherinehas left
Ramiro Romanihas joined
emus
wurstsalat: when do we get matt's list nicely rendered? :-)
la|r|mahas joined
nicolahas joined
nicolahas left
Ramiro Romanihas left
Ramiro Romanihas joined
intosihas left
intosihas joined
SouLhas left
SouLhas joined
Ramiro Romanihas left
Ramiro Romanihas joined
la|r|mahas left
Ramiro Romanihas left
MSavoritias (fae,ve)has joined
la|r|mahas joined
Ramiro Romanihas joined
patascahas joined
Ramiro Romanihas left
Ramiro Romanihas joined
emus
Neat, even the Khronos Group is following us now :)
Ramiro Romanihas left
emus
and we have soon 2500 followers on Mastodon ποΈ
Ramiro Romanihas joined
papatutuwawahas left
praveenhas left
praveenhas joined
praveenhas left
intosihas left
intosihas joined
wurstsalat
emus: yes, I'll do that later this evening :)
emus
βΊοΈ
la|r|mahas left
la|r|mahas joined
intosihas left
intosihas joined
Ramiro Romanihas left
papatutuwawahas joined
Wojtekhas left
intosihas left
intosihas joined
Wojtekhas joined
Ramiro Romanihas joined
intosihas left
Ramiro Romanihas left
intosihas joined
SouLhas left
wurstsalat
Should be online soon :)
wurstsalat
> wurstsalat: when do we get matt's list nicely rendered? :-)
emus: which list?
Wojtekhas left
Wojtekhas joined
Ramiro Romanihas joined
emus
π«£ my bad
emus
MattJ: You rendered a pdf with complainace of clients some weeks ago?