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MattJ
https://matthewwild.co.uk/uploads/XMPP%202023%20news%20round%20up%20-%20draft%202.pdf This is a draft of something I'm planning to print for the stand at FOSDEM.
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MattJ
goffi, papatutuwawa, singpolyma: there are pieces about your projects, so if there's anything you'd like me to change/correct, let me know
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MattJ
+ jcbrand ^
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goffi
MattJ: neat, thanks for doing that. I'll change the official website from salut-a-toi.org to libervia.org before FOSDEM, thus it would be good to change the URL (there will be redirection though).
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jcbrand
Hi MattJ, there's been an electron version of Converse since much longer, so it's not 100% accurate
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MattJ
goffi, great, yes, that would be less confusing indeed :)
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MattJ
jcbrand, how much do you care? (this is marketing material after all, rather than a technical spec)
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MattJ
Unless you want to also promote the Electron version still
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jcbrand
I think the people who created the electron version and maintain it might care
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MattJ
Okay
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MattJ
I'll find another way of wording it then
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pep.
The second page is supposed to be blank?
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jcbrand
Not super important IMO, but you asked for feedback. I would probably just mention that it already has an electron version and now gets Tauri as well
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pep.
(or is it my reader failing)
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MattJ
pep., the second page isn't supposed to be there, sorry
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pep.
Ok
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MattJ
But it is there, and blank
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jcbrand
And leave the rest as is
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papatutuwawa
MattJ: Thanks for including my client ποΈ The only thing I would correct is that my client is not called "MoxxyV2". It's just "Moxxy". I recently renamed the repositories because it seems to confuse people.
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jcbrand
A lot of people don't know about the electron version either, so the title can stay the way it is IMO
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MattJ
papatutuwawa, great, I'll fix that
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pep.
hot take: justified take is ugly :x
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pep.
Otherwise thanks for doing this :)
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MattJ
Yeah, space is limited though
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MattJ
I'm not set on it, but I have limited time
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pep.
I guess we could reuse/update stuff like this also for JDLL, or other coming conferences
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pep.
It's always good to have a base
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pep.
justified text* ><
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papatutuwawa
I also want to say thanks for taking the time to create this ποΈ
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MattJ
Thanks :)
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MattJ
My goals are to show people that XMPP is busy, and introduce them to a range of projects they may not know exist
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MattJ
There are more I could have included, but time and space... maybe next year we can go bigger :)
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MattJ
Also if anyone wants anything printed (even/especially if you won't be at FOSDEM), I can get stuff printed if you send it to me in the next few days
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MattJ
e.g. edhelas sent me some posters for Movim
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MattJ
We have stands for A5 format. Last time they only contained Snikket flyers, but I'm hoping we can get a more diverse range of projects on display this year
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pep.
And there's lots of people in K1, at least you'r not in that small corner of the building :P
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pep.
People had to know there was something going on there
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MattJ
We'll no longer be able to capture people as they try to obtain refreshments from the vending machines
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MattJ
or find the elevator
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MattJ
In case of doubt: I'm not saying the new position is worse
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MattJ
I'll reserve judgement until we've tried it :)
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MattJ
I agree the old place was definitely "hidden", and often blocked by people, though I think it had some advantages. But even just being in a new location is probably a good thing.
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MattJ
I don't know if there will be space for the projector this year
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MattJ
If we're where I think we are, IIRC the "wall" behind us is actually just glass
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jcbrand
The old place wasn't great IMO
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jcbrand
IMO foot traffic of people passing by is better than the odd refreshment seeker, and we had very little foot traffic (due to being tucked away around the corner)
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goffi
I also think that the old location was not really good.
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goffi
MattJ: will there a place where we can print something, like a schedule? As I don't make talk this year, I was wondering maybe we could schedule demos on the booth?
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MattJ
Yeah, we could definitely do that!
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MattJ
I was thinking of a sheet with a schedule of XMPP-related talks
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MattJ
We can include demos on that
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goffi
I'll see if I can print some flyer too, unfortunaly with the name change and all, I think that I can't reuse my current stock.
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MattJ
jcbrand, this revision better? https://matthewwild.co.uk/uploads/XMPP%202023%20news%20round%20up%20-%20draft%203.pdf (also incorporated other feedback)
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jcbrand
Great, thanks MattJ !
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MattJ
goffi, do you want to commit to demo times in advance?
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MattJ
I currently have this:
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MattJ
https://matthewwild.co.uk/uploads/screenshot-20230123-1674479451-20987.png
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goffi
oh I was thinking about something handwritten on the spot, but that's nice of course. I need to check the talks that I want to see, but in any case I would rather do it on Saturday cause I'll have to leave to catch my transport on Sunday afternoon.
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MattJ
I can (and was planning to) leave space to write stuff on when we're there, so it's fine
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singpolyma
MattJ: I agree with pep. that it would probably look better without the justified, especially on such small columns.
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MattJ
https://matthewwild.co.uk/uploads/XMPP%202023%20news%20round%20up%20-%20draft%204.pdf
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singpolyma
MattJ: looks great
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MattJ
For the schedule at the stand, this: https://matthewwild.co.uk/uploads/screenshot-20230123-1674483006-15285.png
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MattJ
I think I'll write a very quick blog post after lunch for xmpp.org with links to talks and resources, and put a QR in that space at the top right
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MattJ
That will give people a path to find the talks easily if they are using a schedule app for the conference (which supports reminders, room finding, etc.)
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MattJ
and the blog post will also serve as an announcement we'll be there
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goffi
MattJ: why did you add "/news" at the end of https://libervia.org ? just libervia.org is fine.
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goffi
otherwise it's great
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goffi
random note: it's bit weird to see XSF on fosstodon and twitter, but not on⦠XMPP :-/.
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pep.
Yeah I agree.. the XSF should really dogfood their own protocol :/
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MattJ
goffi, because the article is about the ActivityPub gateway, which is not mentioned at all on https://salut-a-toi.org/ but is on https://salut-a-toi.org/news
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goffi
oh OK I see. I should probably add ActivityPub somewhere in the frontpage, but I'll wait it to be stable first.
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emus
> MattJ: > 2023-01-23 01:00 (GMT+01:00) > My goals are to show people that XMPP is busy, and introduce them to a range of projects they may not know exist ππ
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pep.
MattJ, is this going to be distributed btw? Or displayed here and there?
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MattJ
I plan to give away copies of the newsletter
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emus
> MattJ: > 2023-01-23 03:11 (GMT+01:00) > I think I'll write a very quick blog post after lunch for xmpp.org with links to talks and resources, and put a QR in that space at the top right please, but may I review?
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emus
pep., goffi: what exactly do you want to see?
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emus
> MattJ: > 2023-01-23 04:21 (GMT+01:00) > I plan to give away copies of the newsletter mee too π
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pep.
to see?
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emus
or we make something out of the highlights collection
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emus
> pep.: > 2023-01-23 04:26 (GMT+01:00) > to see? you said something about twitter
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pep.
We said something about the XSF not advertizing XMPP communication channels
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pep.
Fwiw I'm not saying it had to be on this exact flyer, unless we're talking about MUC (which is also fine). I just think it'd be good to finally think about using pubsub/microblog
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emus
> pep.: > 2023-01-23 04:27 (GMT+01:00) > We said something about the XSF not advertizing XMPP communication channels But atually I do
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pep.
Ah?
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emus
I posted for Gsoc and Summit via mail and chats
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pep.
Ok, I guess we're talking about stuff like this flyer or newsletter content or..
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pep.
-this flyer, newsletter content really, blog articles etc.?
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pep.
goffi, ^
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goffi
emus: I would like to see XSF publishing to XMPP microblog
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goffi
which really should not be called microblog, so let's just say XEP-0277.
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emus
pep.: Yes, but I used to drop it in the official xsf mucs too. I wonder if I should spam other chats
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emus
goffi: if you help me with this I would support it
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goffi
emus: most important is to have an account with decent pubsub service (any up-to-date XMPP server should do it), then you can either use Libervia or Movim to post on it. I can help you with Libervia sure. Will you be at summit/FOSDEM?
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emus
goffi: yes!
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emus
lets get that started
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goffi
cool, let's find some time there then. I'll be in Brussels from 1 to 5.
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emus
me too :-) soo much time. I will not really have big schedule, so I go with you. what about Thu, 1pm
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goffi
Thursday is in the middle of the summit isn't it? I guess we'll have either lunch, demo, or heater discussion on MUC vs MIX at this time.
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wurstsalat
MattJ: I could add a frontpage banner on xmpp.org, linking to your blog post (like we had for some sprints)
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MattJ
Ah, that would be great :)
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MattJ
PR submitted for the blog post: https://github.com/xsf/xmpp.org/pull/1236
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emus
wurstsalat: when do we get matt's list nicely rendered? :-)
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emus
Neat, even the Khronos Group is following us now :)
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emus
and we have soon 2500 followers on Mastodon ποΈ
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wurstsalat
emus: yes, I'll do that later this evening :)
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emus
βΊοΈ
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wurstsalat
Should be online soon :)
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wurstsalat
> wurstsalat: when do we get matt's list nicely rendered? :-) emus: which list?
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emus
π«£ my bad
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emus
MattJ: You rendered a pdf with complainace of clients some weeks ago?
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wurstsalat
https://spacecloud.one/upload/326584b7-fdcd-46db-bb78-14b680349dd7/XQxaJbnoST-ZmJzIWWX4uw.jpg
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wurstsalat
emus: this one?
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emus
yup :-) we need our doap jedi
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emus
btw beagle has a new logo right?
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emus
no, siskin https://xmpp.org/software/clients/siskin-im/
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emus
wonder if it makes sense to print all clients with logos and qr codes
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wurstsalat
Beagle IM has a new logo, too https://xmpp.org/software/clients/beagle-im/