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gnemmi
Hello everyone!
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gnemmi
emus, thank you! 🤗
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gnemmi
idk if any of you is still awake, but I was thinking and I came up with an idea for the XEP's section.
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gnemmi
I've already added it to the pad so there's the standar version and what I came up with
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gnemmi
Let me know what you think and I'll leave the one you like better and delete the other 😉
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gnemmi
> gnemmi, please dont spent time that forces you to work overtime and brings you to your personal limits. Respect yourself Thank you for caring! Things are pretty convulted over here and my daily schedule is a joke. Sometimes I'm on the run .. and some others I just don't know what to do with the spare time. And the plus side is that I _really_ enjoy doing this. It makes me happy 😊 ↺
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gnemmi
I think the new version of the XEP title packs more information while making it easy for translators as they don't have to translate de whole changelog ( which can be quite large sometime and even hard to translate )
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Schimon
gnemmi. The presentation of Blasta is ready. https://xmpp.pimux.de/file_share/0e5d4c52-762f-47be-abce-f182cd12bfe7/blasta.mkv (20.2 MiB) MD5 8263e6793726936a7dafa1c67b92117c Length: 6 minutes and 37 seconds.
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Schimon
I do not think that I will record a presentation of Rivista, yet. I will record a presentation of Rivista, once I add publishing features to it.
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Schimon
https://xmpp.pimux.de/file_share/58bfb8ef-34a6-4412-a86c-705ff542fdf0/blasta.md
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gnemmi
Good morning everyone! 🤗
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gnemmi
Schimon, I just saw the presentation and I loved it!
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gnemmi
Here's the entry on the pad:
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gnemmi
- [Blasta](https://xmpp.pimux.de/file_share/0e5d4c52-762f-47be-abce-f182cd12bfe7/blasta.mkv): Full introduction and detailed presentation to the [Blasta](https://www.f-hub.org/XMPP/Blasta): a federated bookmarking system based on XMPP which allows the sharing of links ( aka "social bookmarking") and stores bookmarks on your own XMPP account.
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gnemmi
Will you upload the video to a Peertube account?. Maybe that would be better than having the readers download the content.
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gnemmi
Let me know if you do so I can change the link to the presentation. Which, btw, is super informative, easy to follow and explainative of what Blasta is, what is it for and how it works!.
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gnemmi
Awesome presentation. Explainative, concise, short, to the point and really educational! 🤗🥳
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gnemmi
- [Blasta](https://xmpp.pimux.de/file_share/0e5d4c52-762f-47be-abce-f182cd12bfe7/blasta.mkv): Full introduction and detailed presentation to the [Blasta](https://www.f-hub.org/XMPP/Blasta) system; a federated bookmarking system based on XMPP which allows the sharing of links ( aka "social bookmarking") and stores bookmarks on your own XMPP account.
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gnemmi
there
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gnemmi
Updated the entry on the pad:
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gnemmi
- [Blasta](https://xmpp.pimux.de/file_share/0e5d4c52-762f-47be-abce-f182cd12bfe7/blasta.mkv): Full introduction and detailed presentation of the [Blasta](https://www.f-hub.org/XMPP/Blasta) system; a federated bookmarking system based on XMPP, which allows you to share the collection of bookmarks ( aka "social bookmarking") stored on your own XMPP account, not only among your own software, devices and machines, but also with others.
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Schimon
gnemmi. Please, do not refer to pimux.de. The video will be uploaded to XMPP-IT PeerTube instance, which I desire to link to.
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Schimon
> - [Blasta](https://xmpp.pimux.de/file_share/0e5d4c52-762f-47be-abce-f182cd12bfe7/blasta.mkv): Full introduction and detailed presentation of the [Blasta](https://www.f-hub.org/XMPP/Blasta) system; a federated bookmarking system based on XMPP, which allows you to share the collection of bookmarks ( aka "social bookmarking") stored on your own XMPP account, not only among your own software, devices and machines, but also with others. Good. Thank you! ↺
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gnemmi
Schimon,
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Schimon
Yes
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gnemmi
- [Blasta](PEERTUBE LINK): Full introduction and detailed presentation of the [Blasta](https://www.f-hub.org/XMPP/Blasta) system; a federated bookmarking system based on XMPP, which allows you to share the collection of bookmarks ( aka "social bookmarking") stored on your own XMPP account, not only among your own software, devices and machines, but also with others.
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Schimon
> - [Blasta](PEERTUBE LINK): Full introduction and detailed presentation of the [Blasta](https://www.f-hub.org/XMPP/Blasta) system; a federated bookmarking system based on XMPP, which allows you to share the collection of bookmarks ( aka "social bookmarking") stored on your own XMPP account, not only among your own software, devices and machines, but also with others. Yes. Thank you. ↺
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gnemmi
You are welcome!
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gnemmi
Thank you for the presentation! I really liked it a lot!. And Blasta is a killer service !!
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Schimon
Haha! Thank you!
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gnemmi
Awesome idea!
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Schimon
Personally, I use buku to handle my bookmarks, has reached to more than 500,000 URIs. I have made Blasta, to have a sharing system, *and* so that we have more people to join to XMPP, *and* also to persuade HTML browser and New reader developers to make use of XMPP as a mean to store (and therefore synchronize) bookmarks, hostory and tabs, rather than using centralized systems.
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gnemmi
Yup ... I said: Awesome idea .. it really covers a whole lot of ground in only one attempt
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Schimon
This is interesting, Python has a module to launch browsers. I can build a Blasta luncher for *desktop*, which is what SyncThing (Syncthing) does upon starting it. ``` import webbrowser webbrowser.open('http://localhost:8000') ``` Earlier, I was thinking of wrapping Blasta into a graphical toolkit.✎ -
Schimon
This is interesting, Python has a module to launch browsers. I can build a Blasta luncher for *desktop*, which is what SyncThing (Syncthing) does upon starting it. ```python import webbrowser webbrowser.open('http://localhost:8000') ``` Or via shell ``` python blasta.py python -m webbrowser -t 'http://localhost:8000' ``` Earlier, I was thinking of wrapping Blasta into a graphical toolkit. ✏
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gnemmi
It even works quite fine on the links2 browser !! 😃👍😃
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Schimon
I have tried Blasta with lynx. gnemmi. Please do convey to me information about issues that can be improved for console browsers. I also intend to add suppoer to Gemini and Gopher.
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gnemmi
https://files.xmpp.social/upload/72890ba3e7e6bc7f1b993e487d3d149fd09e3184/pvBXxR6cT7yWoSNMpK5aAfTz0cTt7JO9MReiB9ZG/blasta_on_links2.png
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gnemmi
that would be on links2 -g
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Schimon
Very nice!
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Schimon
I consider to utilize pywebview with Blasta. https://github.com/r0x0r/pywebview/discussions/1459 *Selective treatment of resources*✎ -
Schimon
I consider to utilize pywebview with Blasta, provided that it is possible to handle domains that are not of localhost:8000 https://github.com/r0x0r/pywebview/discussions/1459 *Selective treatment of resources* ✏
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Schimon
> I consider to utilize pywebview with Blasta, provided that it is possible to handle domains that are not of localhost:8000 > https://github.com/r0x0r/pywebview/discussions/1459 > *Selective treatment of resources* gnemmi. It is possible to utilize pywebview in order to have Blasta operational as a local software. Links that are not of Blasta will be handled by the system (i.e. XDG). See a solution to it at https://github.com/r0x0r/pywebview/discussions/1459#discussioncomment-10488077 ↺
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Schimon
> - [Blasta](PEERTUBE LINK): Full introduction and detailed presentation of the [Blasta](https://www.f-hub.org/XMPP/Blasta) system; a federated bookmarking system based on XMPP, which allows you to share the collection of bookmarks ( aka "social bookmarking") stored on your own XMPP account, not only among your own software, devices and machines, but also with others. https://video.xmpp-it.net/w/cfozoUeVLFbBFMCCSCJ1Dn Blasta - An XMPP PubSub Annotation Management System (06:38) ↺
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Schimon
gnemmi. Please add https://git.xmpp-it.net/sch/Blasta as the main repository and https://www.f-hub.org/XMPP/Blasta as a mirror of it.
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roughnecks
ATM our provider has networking issues, so both PeerTube and Forgejo are slow (xmpp-it)
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gnemmi
- [Blasta](https://video.xmpp-it.net/w/cfozoUeVLFbBFMCCSCJ1Dn): Full introduction and detailed presentation of the [Blasta](https://git.xmpp-it.net/sch/Blasta) system; a federated bookmarking system based on XMPP, which allows you to share the collection of bookmarks (aka "social bookmarking") stored on your own XMPP account, not only among your own software, devices and machines, but also with others.
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gnemmi
Updated. I wouldn't know where to fit the mirror repo 😔
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gnemmi
I just switched the links .. [Blasta](git.xmpp) -> [Blasta system](video link)
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Schimon
- [Blasta](https://video.xmpp-it.net/w/cfozoUeVLFbBFMCCSCJ1Dn): Full introduction and detailed presentation of the [Blasta](https://blasta.woodpeckersnest.eu/) system; a federated bookmarking system based on XMPP, which allows you to share the collection of bookmarks (aka "social bookmarking") stored on your own XMPP account, not only among your own software, devices and machines, but also with others. [Blasta Project Repository](https://git.xmpp-it.net/sch/Blasta) [Blasta Mirror Repository](https://www.f-hub.org/XMPP/Blasta)✎ -
Schimon
> - [Blasta](https://video.xmpp-it.net/w/cfozoUeVLFbBFMCCSCJ1Dn): Full introduction and detailed presentation of the [Blasta](https://git.xmpp-it.net/sch/Blasta) system; a federated bookmarking system based on XMPP, which allows you to share the collection of bookmarks (aka "social bookmarking") stored on your own XMPP account, not only among your own software, devices and machines, but also with others. - [Blasta](https://video.xmpp-it.net/w/cfozoUeVLFbBFMCCSCJ1Dn): Full introduction and detailed presentation of the [Blasta](https://blasta.woodpeckersnest.eu/) system; a federated bookmarking system based on XMPP, which allows you to share the collection of bookmarks (aka "social bookmarking") stored on your own XMPP account, not only among your own software, devices and machines, but also with others. [Blasta Project Repository](https://git.xmpp-it.net/sch/Blasta) [Blasta Mirror Repository](https://www.f-hub.org/XMPP/Blasta) ✏ ↺
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Schimon
> - [Blasta](https://video.xmpp-it.net/w/cfozoUeVLFbBFMCCSCJ1Dn): Full introduction and detailed presentation of the [Blasta](https://git.xmpp-it.net/sch/Blasta) system; a federated bookmarking system based on XMPP, which allows you to share the collection of bookmarks (aka "social bookmarking") stored on your own XMPP account, not only among your own software, devices and machines, but also with others. - [Blasta](https://video.xmpp-it.net/w/cfozoUeVLFbBFMCCSCJ1Dn): Full introduction and detailed presentation of the [Blasta](https://blasta.woodpeckersnest.eu/) system; a federated bookmarking system based on XMPP, which allows you to share the collection of bookmarks (aka "social bookmarking") stored on your own XMPP account, not only among your own software, devices and machines, but also with others. [Blasta Project Repository](https://git.xmpp-it.net/sch/Blasta) (git.xmpp-it.net) [Blasta Mirror Repository](https://www.f-hub.org/XMPP/Blasta) (f-hub.org) ✏ ↺
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gnemmi
Done 👍
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gnemmi
- [Blasta](https://git.xmpp-it.net/sch/Blasta): Full introduction and detailed [video presentation](https://video.xmpp-it.net/w/cfozoUeVLFbBFMCCSCJ1Dn) of the [Blasta system](https://www.f-hub.org/XMPP/Blasta); a federated bookmarking system based on XMPP, which allows you to share the collection of bookmarks (aka "social bookmarking") stored on your own XMPP account, not only among your own software, devices and machines, but also with others.
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gnemmi
So .. what do you guys think looks better, more informative, compact, and easy on the eyes for the reader?
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gnemmi
https://pad.nixnet.services/#Updated0 or https://pad.nixnet.services/#Updated
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gnemmi
boo
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gnemmi
https://pad.nixnet.services/oHnY_ZvLT8SoFyCqIC2ung?view#Updated0 or https://pad.nixnet.services/oHnY_ZvLT8SoFyCqIC2ung?view#Updated✎ -
gnemmi
https://pad.nixnet.services/oHnY_ZvLT8SoFyCqIC2ung?view#Updated1 or https://pad.nixnet.services/oHnY_ZvLT8SoFyCqIC2ung?view#Updated ✏
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emus
Schimon: did you list this und xmpp.org/software too?
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Schimon
emus. No. Not yet.
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emus
> https://pad.nixnet.services/oHnY_ZvLT8SoFyCqIC2ung?view#Updated1 or https://pad.nixnet.services/oHnY_ZvLT8SoFyCqIC2ung?view#Updated I see your point, I would actually not change it. See it from this persepctive: The audience for that section is usually very much interested in the development. Therefore its good to show also the changelog details ↺
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emus
If you have diffuclties for translatiom you can first hand just keep english terms (I recommend that in general) or disucss in the community
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emus
Im thinking also if we should additionally make a separate post with only the XEP develop in as an extra blogpost in addition to the newsletter. Its the core work of the XSF Let me know what you thino
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gnemmi
> I see your point, I would actually not change it. See it from this persepctive: The audience for that section is usually very much interested in the development. Therefore its good to show also the changelog details Sure. I'll the changelog unteouched the. What do you think about leaving the link for the XEP so they have it right ther instead of having to go chasing it on the web page? ↺
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gnemmi
> If you have diffuclties for translatiom you can first hand just keep english terms (I recommend that in general) or disucss in the community Sometimes I do, some other I don't ... I'm torn between translating them or not. Ultimately, those who read any version other than the english one won't understan the XEP itself regardless ↺
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emus
>> I see your point, I would actually not change it. See it from this persepctive: The audience for that section is usually very much interested in the development. Therefore its good to show also the changelog details > Sure. I'll the changelog unteouched the. What do you think about leaving the link for the XEP so they have it right ther instead of having to go chasing it on the web page? we did not have links before? ↺
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emus
>> If you have diffuclties for translatiom you can first hand just keep english terms (I recommend that in general) or disucss in the community > Sometimes I do, some other I don't ... I'm torn between translating them or not. Ultimately, those who read any version other than the english one won't understan the XEP itself regardless if its its too difficulat then leave it ↺
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gnemmi
> Im thinking also if we should additionally make a separate post with only the XEP develop in as an extra blogpost in addition to the newsletter. Its the core work of the XSF > > Let me know what you thino Im not pretty sure about that. I mean, the XEP section exposes the core work of the XFS in the Newsletter for everyone to see. If we had a separate post for XEP's only, I would tend to think that it would never reach the general public ( as only devels would be interested about it ) thus hindering the core work from the XSF for the general public. ↺
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gnemmi
> we did not have links before? Nope .. that's why I added them ↺
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gnemmi
https://xmpp.org/2024/08/the-xmpp-newsletter-july-2024/
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gnemmi
I thought it was a good idea to have the link to the "updated" XEP right there at hand .. so the reader could just click on it and get direct access to the XEP full text
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cal0pteryx
gnemmi: we had links to the updated xeps until I got too lazy :) It's time to automate this task..
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gnemmi
> Im not pretty sure about that. I mean, the XEP section exposes the core work of the XFS in the Newsletter for everyone to see. If we had a separate post for XEP's only, I would tend to think that it would never reach the general public ( as only devels would be interested about it ) thus hindering the core work from the XSF for the general public. This was at the heart of my reasoning why I thought that maybe it was a good idea to leave a link to the changelog instead of the listing. This way the general public can either skip it or read it if they want to. And those who have a particular interest on the changelog ( devels and such ) would have a direct link, not only to the changelog but also to the whole announcement itself ( giving them context and adding extra information like dates and other details ) ↺
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gnemmi
> gnemmi: we had links to the updated xeps until I got too lazy :) > It's time to automate this task.. LOL!!! 😂 ↺
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gnemmi
That's ok! It only takes me a few seconds to add the links!
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gnemmi
https://pad.nixnet.services/oHnY_ZvLT8SoFyCqIC2ung?view#Updated
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gnemmi
there you go
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gnemmi
> Schimon: did you list this und xmpp.org/software too? Done 😉 ↺
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gnemmi
> Done 😉 On the pad at least ↺