XSF Communications Team - 2024-10-15

Hello everyone

Just added to the pad

### Proposed

- [Pubsub Node Relationships](https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/pubsub-node-relationships.html)

### Updated

- Version 1.6.2 of [XEP-0198](https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0198.html) (Stream Management) - Clarify server enabling stream management without requested resume functionality. (gk)

something seems off though .. 1.6.2 of [XEP-0198] is dated as "Version 1.6.2 (2024-09-24)" in the link .. but the mail on the list is dated 14 Oct 2024 10:10 a.m. 🤔

https://mail.jabber.org/hyperkitty/list/standards@xmpp.org/thread/ZVFUERGCPWXOZTUZ3VQQW7TRTEOJCFDO/

Welp .. there's a lot of time to fix it if needed though

gnemmi: thanks for adding all those news :) don't worry about the date

cal0pteryx, my pleasure! 🤗

gnemmi. Mr. anjan is the author of the article https://momi.ca/posts/2024-10-09-honeybee.html

I have asked him to join to this group chat, in case there are questions for further elaboration.

Hi y'all! I'm here for any questions you may have :)

anjan Cool, that you do that in zig :-) Too bad, that zig is not yet in Debian and therefore it will take some time until your client will show up on my Mobian phone. ✏

debacle. Which device do you use for your Mobian installation?

anjan and myself both use POCO F1 for postmarketOS.

I have a PinePhone "amateur" (i.e. not "pro")

But let's move that talk elsewhere, it is not related to XMPP commteam stuff ;-)

Sure. Speaking of which. I want to encourage integration of XMPP into the account manager of (GNOME, Phosh, and Plasma).

Probably existed in the past and was removed. Pretty sure for KDE at least.

Yes, just downgrade to Gnome 1 or 2 and you have it!

This is surprising!

I sense, that a removal would be done due to bribe from elemetns with a special interest to censor XMPP.

Kris. Do you have a reference of the removal?

Na, just people who think xmpp is dead

No sinister motives ✏

I only use XMPP. The secondary reason for creating the Slixfeed bot, is to encourage people, that I know, to use XMPP. So far, I have over 40 people from my area, who are connected to XMPP, and use Slixfeed for their news. ✏

I only use XMPP. The secondary reason for creating the Slixfeed bot, is to encourage people, that I know, to use XMPP. So far, I have over 40 people from my area, who are connected to XMPP, and use Slixfeed for "news". ✏

A software that could make use of XMPP integration into account manager would be Reeder.

Portable XMPP & OMEMO implementations in C. Allegedly runs on ESP32 didn't try it yet https://github.com/mierenhoop/xmpp But they also say > Do not use the code in this repository for anything serious; there might be unidentified security vulnerabilities present. You are encouraged to report such issues when found.

Could be intetesting to check if it compiles via WASM.

TheCoffeMaker: that seems more like standard boilerplate for any cryptography project made by a hobbyist.

agree

I think, that xmpp.org should have an additional index for XMPP software, that are not intended for average people, so called, and also abandoned projects. Such index would increase the probability , that omeone would develop new software, or continue abandoned projects. For example: Jappix, Kaiwa, Pandion, Speeqe and more.

mmm a list of that kind can be misleading if the abandoned projects gain traction once again

TheCoffeMaker. How so?

I, for instance, consider to continue Speeqe. Yet, I probably would not have even think of it, if I did not know about it, a decade ago. Hence, I think, that a centralized index should be useful.

> TheCoffeMaker. How so? I guess it will required someone's effort to keep it updated and easily get outdated because u should keep an eye in all projects development ✏

> > TheCoffeMaker. How so? > I guess it will required someone's effort to keep it updated and easily get outdated because u should keep an eye in all projects development I am interested to engage with this task, and be responsible for providing of a monthly report. ✏ ↺

> I think, that xmpp.org should have an additional index for XMPP software, that are not intended for average people, so called, and also abandoned projects. > Such index would increase the probability , that omeone would develop new software, or continue abandoned projects. > For example: Jappix, Kaiwa, Pandion, Speeqe and more. It usually happens through not maintaing a doap file ↺