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debacle
Dears, I'm going to print hexstickers about Jabber/XMPP. Do you have any nice motives? I think about "Jabber — fediverse of chat since 1999" and "Use Jabber — Do Crime" (a pun on the German federal crimiinal police BKA), but I'm open to better ideas.
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debacle
Btw. I will do hexstickers in English and in Spanish, maybe also German or Portuguese.
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Guus
I do not like the 'do crime' variant, as that is likely to be misunderstood by a lot of people.
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emus
> Dears, I'm going to print hexstickers about Jabber/XMPP. Do you have any nice motives? > I think about "Jabber — fediverse of chat since 1999" and "Use Jabber — Do Crime" (a pun on the German federal crimiinal police BKA), but I'm open to better ideas. Please focus on positive capabilities. Here are a lot suitable statements: https://pad.nixnet.services/yILbeWY0TkipOai2Aojt2A?view ↺
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debacle
> I do not like the 'do crime' variant, as that is likely to be misunderstood by a lot of people. That's always a problem with jokes. Some do understand them, some do not. I'll not stop joking, though. Btw. we are all criminals. At some place, in some time. ↺
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debacle
> Please focus on positive capabilities. > > Here are a lot suitable statements: https://pad.nixnet.services/yILbeWY0TkipOai2Aojt2A?view I like most of the statements, esp. because they focus on positive features, but there are few, that make a cool, short slogan for a 5 cm hexsticker. Many of them are a little bit to "technical" for my taste. Do you have any specific one in mind? One that you (or others here) would like to see on a sticker? ↺
- debacle would not use the term "XMPP" on a sticker, btw. It's like calling email "SMTP". Too geeky, IMHO.
- debacle would not use the term "XMPP" on a sticker, btw. It's like calling email "SMTP". Too geeky, ITHO.
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hueso
promote individual apps instead of protocols then. The Snikket way.
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debacle
> promote individual apps instead of protocols then. The Snikket way. Which one? I'm going to distribute them both at upcoming DebConf (i.e. should be a client in Debian such as Gajim or Dino) and at a kind of crypto party, where most people use Android. Maybe two different stickers then? ↺
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emus
> I like most of the statements, esp. because they focus on positive features, but there are few, that make a cool, short slogan for a 5 cm hexsticker. Many of them are a little bit to "technical" for my taste. Do you have any specific one in mind? One that you (or others here) would like to see on a sticker? I meant you can take inspiration from this. ↺
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hueso
yay see you @ debconf then!
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hueso
imho the lack of a pronouncable name really hinders adoption
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hueso
coincidentally I was just asked a few moments ago: "oh you don't use whatsapp, what do you use?" and after a moment of doubt I said XMPP and I could see the face of confusion in the person's face, which does not promote the urge to look it up like it would if it were a more a catchy name
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hueso
fuck Cisco
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MattJ
Tell them what you use. I don't tell people I use SMTP...
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hueso
sometimes I say "Conversations" but often they would use an iFruit device
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MattJ
Yeah, that is unfortunate
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MattJ
I've had people try to search for Conversations on the Apple store before
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MattJ
But the people who search XMPP don't tend to succeed much either
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hueso
or even look it up in google store and dismiss it as paid
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MattJ
and I don't think that part would be better if it was called "Jabber", because there wouldn't be a Jabber app
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MattJ
They'll just think the app isn't there
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hueso
I think there's value in the Snikket initiative
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hueso
I guess many client options would show up in a search for "jabber" just like they do when searching "xmpp" @ fdroid
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hueso
likewise a search for "email" would show up many email clients. although plagued with shitware of course as is the case with those app "stores"
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MattJ
You'd be surprised, most people don't know they can choose what email app they use
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Trung
modern slavery and all that
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debacle
> or even look it up in google store and dismiss it as paid That's why Conversation has, idk. 100 k downloads and Delta has 1 M. The latter is free as in beer. ↺
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debacle
> I meant you can take inspiration from this. Sure, but maybe you have a favourite, one that really is really catchy in your ear or eye ;-)✎ ↺ -
debacle
> I meant you can take inspiration from this. Sure, but maybe you have a favourite, one that is really catchy in your ear or eye ;-) ✏ ↺
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emus
The favorites are the top ones
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emus
debacle:
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debacle
> The favorites are the top ones OK! ↺
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emus
MattJ: can you make me owner of this muc temporarily?
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MattJ
emus, done