XSF Communications Team - 2026-05-29

>> or even look it up in google store and dismiss it as paid > That's why Conversation has, idk. 100 k downloads and Delta has 1 M. The latter is free as in beer. Perhaps Conversations just needs some Crowdfunding to then be free on Play Store for a longer time. I've had that thought for a while now... Like... Funding to make it free for a year or something like that. It having a price tag surely costs some momentum with all the digital independence initiatives. ↺

> (I moderated one image) What was in there that you had to remove it? o.O ↺

People pay for apps all the time. 1M downloads doesn't mean 1M users

> What was in there that you had to remove it? o.O It was a sticker design by me. More a pun on the German BKA, kind of joke, but I completely understand, that it is not everyones taste, so I'll not post it, again. If you come to the Berlin sprint, you can get the *real* sticker, though. ↺

> People pay for apps all the time. 1M downloads doesn't mean 1M users That's true, but I'm going to have an "indi day / crypto party" kind of event soon, and I already fear, that many people will not download Conversations from Google because of the price tag. After all, they only want to try the app and maybe never use it again. I'm willing to pay the app for everyone at the event (10..20 people, I assume), but that does not solve the problem in general. ✏ ↺

> Please help me formulate media posts emus, is that good? English: XMPP will be represented at the Journées du Logiciel Libre (JDLL) this weekend, May 30–31, 2026, at the ENS Descartes campus in Lyon, France, with the participation of the organizations JabberFR and Libre en Communs – both respectively maintaining jabber.fr and chalec.org providers – as well as contributors from projects such as Poezio and Slixmpp. French: XMPP sera représenté aux Journées du Logiciel Libre (JDLL) ce week-end, les 30 et 31 mai 2026, sur le campus de l'ENS Descartes à Lyon, en France, avec la participation des associations JabberFR et Libre en Communs – qui gèrent respectivement les serveurs jabber.fr et chalec.org – ainsi que des contributeurs de projets tels que Poezio et Slixmpp. German: XMPP wird an diesem Wochenende, vom 30. bis 31. Mai 2026, auf den Journées du Logiciel Libre (JDLL) auf dem Campus der ENS Descartes in Lyon, Frankreich, vertreten sein. Mit dabei sind die Organisationen JabberFR und Libre en Communs – die jeweils die Provider jabber.fr und chalec.org betreiben – sowie Mitwirkende aus Projekten wie Poezio und Slixmpp. ↺

(Lyon is not so far from the border, so... :x)

> That's why Conversation has, idk. 100 k downloads and Delta has 1 M. The latter is free as in beer. Right, but..if you install it from F-Droid, it's both free as in freedom and free as in beer. If people are looking for free as in freedom applications on a store that is free as in zilch, then....not sure if it's a Conversations problem. ↺

neox, you can also mention xmpp.rs perhaps.

Link Mauve, good idea

So new version: English: XMPP will be represented at the Journées du Logiciel Libre (JDLL) this weekend, May 30–31, 2026, at the ENS Descartes campus in Lyon, France, with the participation of the organizations JabberFR and Libre en Communs – both respectively maintaining jabber.fr and chalec.org providers – as well as contributors from projects such as Poezio, xmpp.rs and Slixmpp. French: XMPP sera représenté aux Journées du Logiciel Libre (JDLL) ce week-end, les 30 et 31 mai 2026, sur le campus de l'ENS Descartes à Lyon, en France, avec la participation des associations JabberFR et Libre en Communs – qui gèrent respectivement les serveurs jabber.fr et chalec.org – ainsi que des contributeurs de projets tels que Poezio, xmpp.rs et Slixmpp. German: XMPP wird an diesem Wochenende, vom 30. bis 31. Mai 2026, auf den Journées du Logiciel Libre (JDLL) auf dem Campus der ENS Descartes in Lyon, Frankreich, vertreten sein. Mit dabei sind die Organisationen JabberFR und Libre en Communs – die jeweils die Provider jabber.fr und chalec.org betreiben – sowie Mitwirkende aus Projekten wie Poezio, xmpp.rs und Slixmpp.

>> People pay for apps all the time. 1M downloads doesn't mean 1M users > That's true, but I'm going to have an "indi day / crypto party" kind of event soon, and I already fear, that many people will not download Conversations from Google because of the price tag. After all, they only want to try the app and maybe never use it again. I'm willing to pay the app for everyone at the event (10..20 people, I assume), but that does not solve the problem in general. Hmm, yeah. Such cases are interesting. Google doesn't have a "free trial" thing with play store really. One could fake it with IAP I suppose ↺

Is there some way to buy an app "for" someone else? That might work actually, at least in cases where one person is willing to foot the bill (or contribute financially to Conversations, however you want to look at it)

installing F-Droid is a beneficial side quest

> That's true, but I'm going to have an "indi day / crypto party" kind of event soon, and I already fear, that many people will not download Conversations from Google because of the price tag. After all, they only want to try the app and maybe never use it again. I'm willing to pay the app for everyone at the event (10..20 people, I assume), but that does not solve the problem in general. Most people will just look at it because I tell them "Try it", the price tag does not help getting people on board. They're not going to pay five euros because I ask them to. ↺

> Right, but..if you install it from F-Droid, it's both free as in freedom and free as in beer. If people are looking for free as in freedom applications on a store that is free as in zilch, then....not sure if it's a Conversations problem. "How can I reach you?" "Conversations, just try it" "Right... Oh, it's a fiver... Nah.." "You just need to install another app called F-Droid and then you can install it for free and then you can talk to me, it's so easy!" "..." ↺

> "How can I reach you?" > > "Conversations, just try it" > > "Right... Oh, it's a fiver... Nah.." > > "You just need to install another app called F-Droid and then you can install it for free and then you can talk to me, it's so easy!" > > "..." "What is F-Droid?" *gives a lecture on software freedom and why F-Droid is good* Friend understands the importance of freedom, installs F-Droid and then Conversations. Now they might look for apps first in F-Droid. Win-win. ↺

lol

I enjoy such satire.

> So new version: > > English: > XMPP will be represented at the Journées du Logiciel Libre (JDLL) this weekend, May 30–31, 2026, at the ENS Descartes campus in Lyon, France, with the participation of the organizations JabberFR and Libre en Communs – both respectively maintaining jabber.fr and chalec.org providers – as well as contributors from projects such as Poezio, xmpp.rs and Slixmpp. > > French: > XMPP sera représenté aux Journées du Logiciel Libre (JDLL) ce week-end, les 30 et 31 mai 2026, sur le campus de l'ENS Descartes à Lyon, en France, avec la participation des associations JabberFR et Libre en Communs – qui gèrent respectivement les serveurs jabber.fr et chalec.org – ainsi que des contributeurs de projets tels que Poezio, xmpp.rs et Slixmpp. > > German: > XMPP wird an diesem Wochenende, vom 30. bis 31. Mai 2026, auf den Journées du Logiciel Libre (JDLL) auf dem Campus der ENS Descartes in Lyon, Frankreich, vertreten sein. Mit dabei sind die Organisationen JabberFR und Libre en Communs – die jeweils die Provider jabber.fr und chalec.org betreiben – sowie Mitwirkende aus Projekten wie Poezio, xmpp.rs und Slixmpp. May I just stick to English and do one post? ↺

emus: haha as you wish

neox got my direct messageß

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neox you can post the a translation in the thread: https://fosstodon.org/@xmpp/116659795016180680

erebion, divya: why are you guys talking about as if Quickys didn't exist as an entry level xmpp app for Android and iOS?

> erebion, divya: why are you guys talking about as if Quickys didn't exist as an entry level xmpp app for Android and iOS? I didn't talk about Quicksy as I was talking about Conversations. ↺

That's a basic. Try Quicksy. Like what you see? Like what you get? Pay 5 an upgrade to Conversations/Monocle/Cheogram

Sort of except that upgrade path would involved making a new address?

erebion: and that's exactly why I brought Quicksy to the table!. As a Conversations fork, it makes and absolutely perfect entry level client to XMPP

singpolyma: indeed .. but if you liked what you saw .. creating a new account is a lot lower level than getting someone who doesn't know xmpp to shell out 5 for an app that provides a services that the users doesn't even know if he needs or wants at all ..

At least that's my humble opinion and take on it

> That's a basic. Try Quicksy. Like what you see? Like what you get? Pay 5 an upgrade to Conversations/Monocle/Cheogram Quicksy is need. I just wonder what happens when someone moves to a new device and registers again. Is it a new account? Reverse... What if someone registers again with the same number when the number gets reallocated again? Do they get the account? Do the contacts get any indication that the owner of the phone number changed? The Quicksy website doesn't comment on that at all. ↺

Probably because Quicksy was never meant to be used for good but just as an entry level option?.

Anyways, if you register again with a new number not much is gonna change since Quicksy used your phone book to keep track of your contacts .. ✏

I know that a new number will lead to a new account. That's not what I'm wondering about.