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Kev
Excellent.
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stpeter
hi Kev!!! ;-)
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Kev
I'm glad that my suggestion that we skip a week so I wouldn't bother turning up for a meeting on holiday was turned down because it's too important that we have a Council meeting every week.
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Kev
I'm also glad I made the effort to be here.
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stpeter
:P
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stpeter
you get a gold star!
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stpeter
Kev: would you like me to draft warning text for the message archiving spec?
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Kev
Oh, right, that's still on my list.
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stpeter
I'm pushing on the tech review team regarding the file transfer specs
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Kev
I'm happy for you to do it if you have the time, I'm unlikely to get to it this week (or next, which looks horrendously busy).
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stpeter
I suppose that Ralph and I need to coordinate about pubsub
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Kev
I saw you pushing for the file transfer review, thanks.
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Kev
I have a comment about MUC, unhelpfully.
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stpeter
is it just me or is there a lack of energy of late?
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Kev
Which is that the disco identity for a room is the same as for a service, which isn't that helpful when you're trying to discover rooms.
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stpeter
good point
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Kev
(In fact, in the registry there's an entry for a directory of rooms, but MUC doesn't use this, in favour of conference for both service and room)
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stpeter
XEP-0045 was defined soon after XEP-0030 and we didn't have a clear idea of how to use disco at the time
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Kev
Yes, there's a definite lack of energy within the XSF at the moment.
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stpeter
ok, at least I'm not the only one who thinks so
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Kev
For me too, because I've been trying to head-down and get Swift done.
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stpeter
nothing says we need to maintain the XSF
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stpeter
we could put it in maintenance mode :)
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Kev
I think it serves a purpose, it just needs to one of these re-imagining movies that seems to be the rage these days.
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stpeter
:)
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Kev
So, as the only Council member here, and despite not having quorum, I'm going to declare that there's no meeting next week, and that the next meeting will be 1800GMT 24th May.
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Tobias
maintenance mode?
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Kev
Evening Ralph.
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Tobias
Kev: someone should put it in the calendar this time ;)
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ralphm
eh, wow. I got messages from the future
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Kev
Tobias: MattJ volunteered to keep the calendar up to date for us.
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stpeter
Tobias: sure, like we don't do any new work, just maintain the old stuff
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Tobias
stpeter: ahh :)
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stpeter
I thought I added this one to the calendar
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ralphm
could somebody set up ntp for our server?
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Tobias
stpeter: there is an entry for last week
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stpeter
Tobias: you're right
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stpeter
now I'll set up an entry for next week :P
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Kev
ralphm: it seems to be correct.
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Tobias
i thought there is no meeting next week
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Tobias
?
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Kev
Comparing it to my NTP-configured machine at home.
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stpeter
or the week after
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Kev
Tobias: correct. No meeting next week, meeting the week after.
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ralphm
Kev: odd, I got messages from 20:12 in the history when I joined
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Kev
So there was one today, 10th May. None 17th May. Next is 24th May
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stpeter
Kev: got it
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Kev
stpeter: glamorous.
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ralphm
What's there?
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stpeter
Kev: IESG retreat, not so glamorous ;-)
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ralphm
Hutje op de hei?
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Kev
Anyway, it's over 10 minutes now, we've only got Ralph and me, so no quorum.
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stpeter
I checked in changes to council/events.xml
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Kev
I'll send out not-minutes saying as such, telling people we're skipping next week.
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Kev
Thanks Peter.
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Kev
I'll then go and enjoy my week off.
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stpeter
Kev: enjoy!
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ralphm
Sorry, my train was delayed
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stpeter
ralphm: how would you like to work on XEP-0060?
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ralphm
After 1.13?
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stpeter
no, for 1.13
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stpeter
we need to de-delete some stuff
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stpeter
things that were in 1.12
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ralphm
ah
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ralphm
I thought we might be able to just revert some commits
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ralphm
;-)
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stpeter
ralphm: I doubt it will be quite that easy
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ralphm
yeah
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Kev
Right, thanks for turning up, AFK now.
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ralphm
Let's see
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stpeter
ralphm: if you could find line numbers in the diff from 1.12 then I can revert those changes
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stpeter
that would be http://xmpp.org/extensions/diff/api/xep/0060/diff/1.12/vs/1.13rc13 I suppose
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stpeter
(or section numbers)
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ralphm
I could extract both versions and run it through meld
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ralphm
selectively copying diffs back and forth
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ralphm
and then commit
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stpeter
sure that would be fine
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ralphm
I wonder if I still have an account
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stpeter
I think we're talking about a few small sections of the document
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ralphm
yeah
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stpeter
heck, if you tell me which sections I can find the appropriate diffs from 1.12
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stpeter
hi nathan!
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nathan
Howdy. :/ Sorry I'm late.
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stpeter
nathan: this meeting didn't get into the calendar
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ralphm
reaching quorum here
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stpeter
heh
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stpeter
Remko is offline
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nathan
Matt?
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stpeter
he's NA
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stpeter
or xa
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Tobias
stpeter: strangely calendars don'T seem to be builded automatically anymore
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Tobias
i'll investigate that later
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stpeter
Tobias: ok
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stpeter
Tobias: maybe I didn't run the right script?
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Tobias
the way it's supposed to work is that you don't need to run any script :)
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ralphm
stpeter: at least 7.1
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stpeter
heh
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stpeter
ralphm: right
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stpeter
so the issues were (1) batch processing and ...?
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stpeter
something about subids
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ralphm
sid's for pending subscriptions
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ralphm
I think also 7.2
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ralphm
as I see batch item retractions were removed, too
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ralphm
12.8/10
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ralphm
12.9
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stpeter
ok
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ralphm
reference [20] in Appendix G
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stpeter
sure, I can just search for "batch" in the SVN history
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ralphm
Oh, right ;-)
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ralphm
I just happened to look in all the places, I see
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stpeter
ok I shall take a look at that one evening this week
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ralphm
there is also a link to result-set management that had reference 20
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stpeter
then you, nathan, and I can chat about 1.13+
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ralphm
and now seems to just mention a XEP number
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stpeter
yes
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ralphm
Ah, that's also in my notes
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ralphm
As the old 20 seems to be equivalent to 19
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ralphm
that could maybe merge
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ralphm
but that'd mean renumbering all others, so probably not a good idea
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stpeter
those are just reference numbers, I don't care about renumbering
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ralphm
oh
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ralphm
good thing nobody ever uses these numbers
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ralphm
in legal texts they just just leave vacancies
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stpeter
:)
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stpeter
no lawyers here, just us geeks!
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ralphm
nod
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ralphm
ok cool
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stpeter
on the phone, brb
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