MattJI've been using this for some time, it depends which Gajim decides to use to join the a new MUC :)
Kev2) Agenda bashing?
MattJNone here
KevI've poked Peter in case he'd like to join.
Fritzynodda
KevHe doesn't seem to be about on his public account though, so I imagine he's head-down with something, and his presence isn't mandatory :)
KevI confess I've not reviewed much for Council today, and'll be voting on list.
Kev3) XEP-0124: BOSH
http://xmpp.org/extensions/tmp/xep-0124-1.10.html
Diff: http://xmpp.org/extensions/diff/api/xep/0124/diff/1.9/vs/1.10rc1
KevAccept new version?
remkosame here, i'll vote on list
FritzyI'll vote on list
ralphm+1
Fritzylooks like it's just jabber.org -> example.com
ralphmand scram instead of DIGEST-MD5
MattJ+1
KevI see other changes.
KevBut they seem to be wordsmithing.
Kev4) XEP-0206: XMPP Over BOSH
http://xmpp.org/extensions/tmp/xep-0206-1.3.html
Diff: http://xmpp.org/extensions/diff/api/xep/0206/diff/1.2/vs/1.3rc1
Accept new version?
MattJHmm, there was meant to be a 'restartlogic' attribute somewhere, I don't see it
ralphmyeah, the changelog only mentions restartlogic stuff
MattJMaybe next version :)
ralphmsee section 4
MattJThe diff shows no changes in section 4
ralphmin 206
MattJWhoops :P
ralphmthey are just released together
ralphm+1 by the way
KevMatt, Remko, Fritzy?
Fritzylist on this as well
remkodito
FritzyI'll go through it today.
MattJI'd like to say I don't find 'restartlogic' an explanatory name, but +1
Kev5) http://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/sxe.html
Accept as Experimental?
ralphmI have some notes on this
KevI need to read this again.
Fritzyit's been awhile
ralphmI wonder why it doesn't establish a more generic p2p stream, like the xep we have for that
MattJI need to read it again, but I looked at it not long ago
remkoi ned to read it too, but i don't -1 against making it experimental
KevI'm principally in favour, i jsut want to read it again.
Fritzyand I get questions about this problem space a lot.
Fritzyso you're definitely right, Ralph.
Kev6) http://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/moved.html
Accept as Experimental.
ralphmFritzy: I know, I'm pretty sure I voted in favour before ;-)
ralphm+1
remko+1
ralphmand wondering why it doesn't use the 'gone' xmpp stanza error
KevI remember reading this and having assorted comments. I'll write them up at some point.
stpeterralphm: yeah I mentioned that to the author but he didn't add it yet
Kev+1 in the meantime.
ralphmstpeter: cool
MattJWell if we're happy it's going to be changed, +1
Fritzy+1 + comments on list.
Kev7) Date of next meeting.
KevNext Monday, 1600GMT as usual?
ralphm+1
MattJ+1
ralphmehm
Kev1800
ralphm1800UTC
Kevahem :)
remkowfm
Fritzyok
Kev8) Any other business.
stpeter(BTW there is an implementation of SXE for whiteboarding on the iPad, developed by the new co-author of the spec)
FritzyWhat are we going to work on at the OSCON Summit?
KevThere are other items on Radar that I need to chat with Peter about and see where we are with Council actions.
KevFritzy: 'we'? :)
stpeterFritzy: feel free to write the agenda
ralphmstpeter: does that mean that changes are difficult?
stpeterralphm: no
stpeterI met Tom at the Anaheim IETF and he was quite flexible about fixes to the spec
ralphmnod
stpeterFritzy: personally, I'm not sure about the value of a Summit if all we do is have interesting discussions (as at the last one) but nothing tangible comes out of it
stpeterso if we can have hackfests, interop, code sprints, or something other than bloviating I'd be all in favor :P
stpeter(and I'm the bloviator-in-chief so it's mostly my fault)
FritzyThe last one? Didn't you have some of that in Belgium?
Kevstpeter: you're welcome to get everyone coding with Swiften :)
stpeterFritzy: I missed that first day
FritzyN900 day?
ralphmI'm not sure I'm going to make it
KevThe thing about the summits, I find, is that the value is mostly in all the out-of-band stuff.
FritzyI'll save a seat for you, Ralph.
KevThat can only happen because there's a summit.
ralphmbut I sure would have enjoyed people staying around longer
stpeterralphm: do you know about the microblogging summit the day before?
ralphmeh, no
stpeterplus this Summit is happening right before I need to fly to Europe for IETF 78
ralphmI'm a bit out of touch with stuff :-(
KevAnyway, I think we're treading out of 'Needs to be in Council' now.
stpetermaybe we could have an informal get-together in Maastricht
stpeterKev: yepper
KevAnything else that needs doing before gavel-banging time?
ralphmstpeter: very much so
stpeterralphm: I could request a room for an XMPP hackfest on Sunday before the IETF meeting really gets going
ralphmcool
KevRight, sounds like we're done with Council.
FritzyKev: I think so.
KevThanks all - I'll send around minutes tomorrow.
Kevbangs the gavel.
ralphmFritzy: seat from .nl?
MattJThanks Kev
stpeteris working through http://matthewwild.co.uk/uploads/3920bis_wglc_feedback.html today
ralphmwow
MattJhas been working through http://blog.prosody.im/prosody-0-7-0-released/ and is now going to take the week off :)
KevA week off sounds lovely, and I only just had one :)
stpeterheh
ralphmPersonal stuff and work has kept me from doing proper reviews :-(
KevThree betas in a fortnight has been hard work :)
stpetermy vacation time is piling up, no time to take it
ralphmI had to promise to take time off
stpeter:)
ralphmtime to watch some soccer
stpeterheh
stpeterworld cup time yet again
ralphmindeed
ralphm.nl vs .dk 2-0
ralphmtoday
stpeteryep
stpeterhet oranje!
ralphmMattJ: hope the freebsd port gets an update soon
MattJI'm going to install FreeBSD myself if needs be
MattJIt *shall* be fixed :)
ralphmhaha
ralphmI've been thinking about sift a bit, for clients that don't support it directly, maybe having some kind of server setting for enabling it based on resource or some other means would be nice
ralphm(like my N900, presence seems to hammer the battery quite a bit)
FritzyMattJ: You found the BOSH leak then?
MattJFritzy, yep, that was quite amazing :)
Fritzyralphm: interesting.
MattJIt was about 4 issues combined to cause the same symptoms
Fritzylove those!
Kevralphm: tried compiling Swift for it yet? :)
MattJ1 only occured when the user used Firefox, one only occured when Apache was used to proxy
ralphmKev: I expected a package from you ;-)
MattJ1 was essentially random
KevI don't have a shiny n900 to test with :)
KevThose nasty Nokia people made me give it back.
FritzyMattJ: crazy... well, I'll run 0.7 through it's paces in production starting today.
MattJGood luck :)
ralphmKev: don't you need it for work?
MattJIt's made a record for having 1 minor bug during a 2+ week RC
Kevralphm: heh, that might be a hard sell :)
FritzyKev: is Swift getting SCRAM?
KevFritzy: Getting?
Fritzyah, it has it? very nice.
KevNovember 21st, says git log
Kevcommit 2c8bfd7c49bd16bebbf0b89c01fce7817afab74f
Author: Remko Tronçon <git@el-tramo.be>
Date: Sat Nov 21 01:59:21 2009 +0100
Implemented SCRAM-SHA-1 for real now.
MattJAlso of interest: http://www.nödåtgärd.se/non-scientific-jabber-client-test/
KevYes.
ralphmhas left
ralphmhas joined
stpeterheh, http://xmpp.org:5290/muc_log/muc.xmpp.org/council/100614/ doesn't think that URL is legit :)
XMPP Council - 2010-06-14