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stpeter
hiya
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Kev
Evening.
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stpeter
how goes it?
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Kev
43minutes by my watch :)
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stpeter
time check verified, sir!
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Kev
I've actually read the protoXEPs in advance, it must be a Monday :)
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Fritzy
:)
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Kev
stpeter: I gave waqas r/o access to the repo, btw, when he asked earlier. Said he didn't need r/w yet.
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stpeter
ok
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stpeter
WFM
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Tobias
what's r/o?
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Kev
read/only
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Tobias
ahh :)
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MattJ
Doesn't everyone have read access?
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Kev
Not through ssh.
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Kev
And we've not set up a public mirror yet afaik.
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Tobias
Kev: gitosis only manages access to the repo, right?
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Kev
Yes.
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Kev
Why or what were you wondering about?
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Tobias
since we seem to have no git savvy email post commit hook notification expert around i'm making myself one :)
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Kev
Does such a thing not exist already?
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Tobias
it does
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Tobias
it just needs to be activated by someone :)
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Tobias
k..i wonder if that work
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Tobias
*works
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stpeter
of the Council members, I see Ralph and Remko online, with Matthew being awat
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stpeter
away even
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Fritzy
I'm here too
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Kev
Yep, got 15mins though.
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stpeter
just noting :)
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Kev
Mine was a week.
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Kev
Well, 4 days away.
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ralphm
yeah, mine was 7 workingdays
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ralphm
including today
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ralphm
but we had a colo outage over the weekend
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ralphm
so...
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MattJ
Timed dinner just right :)
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stpeter
heh
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Kev
Just enough time for me to brb before 7.
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Kev
And we're on.
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MattJ
Has anyone poked Remko?
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Kev
I've reminded him at 14 minutes and 0 minutes.
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MattJ
Fair enough
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Kev
I expect he'll be along, he acked the 14minute reminder.
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remko
howdy
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Kev
There.
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MattJ
Yay :)
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Kev
1) Roll call.
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Kev
Sausage bap.
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Fritzy
here
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Kev
Also: all here.
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Fritzy
<presence />
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Kev
2) Agenda bashing.
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ralphm
woot!
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MattJ
None
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Fritzy
current agenda is ok
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remko
none
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Kev
3) ProtoXEP - Spim Markers and Reports: http://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/spim.html
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Kev
Accept as a XEP?
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Kev
I had various comments to make about this, but nothing to stop us throwing it up as Experimental.
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Fritzy
I have a lot of problems with it
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ralphm
oh, the evil bit
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ralphm
I thought we already had a spec for that
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Kev
ralphm: Yes.
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Fritzy
I'm going to vote -1 and email to the list my comments
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Kev
Ok - this is substantial stuff that can't be sorted out while it's on the vine, then?
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Fritzy
Well, sure -- let me go stream of thought
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ralphm
http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0076.html
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stpeter
heh
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Kev
I'd rather we had something we could put in the minutes as a reason for rejecting it :)
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ralphm
I see many things wrong with this spec even at a glance
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Fritzy
I don't like the filters extending the presence stanza
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ralphm
like abusing presence for pubsub
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MattJ
ralphm, eh?
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ralphm
Fritzy: fools seldom differ
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Fritzy
?
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ralphm
MattJ: like example 3
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ralphm
this is clearly a horrible way to do things
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MattJ
ralphm, I don't see why... it's not abusing presence for pubsub
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MattJ
Those tags could be on a message stanza too
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Fritzy
Also, I don't see how a complaint actually associates itself with what it is complaining about -- maybe I'm missing something here?
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ralphm
it is, it is soliciting a subscription for stuff through presence
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MattJ
Fritzy, the "key" attribute
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stpeter
OT hmph, did we not add this meeting to the calendar?
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MattJ
stpeter, if you didn't and I didn't then I guess not
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stpeter
oops
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Fritzy
MattJ: the key is associated with the subscription to the filter -- not the stanza it is complaining about
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Fritzy
MattJ: or am I really missing something big here?
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MattJ
ralphm, no, you're missing it...
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MattJ
ralphm, that's a normal subscription request from one user to another user
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MattJ
The <report> elements are to tell the recipient where to report spim to
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waqas
stpeter: I'd also request notifications posted on identi.ca for council meetings. I always miss the meetings.
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MattJ
They are inserted by the filters as the stanza passes through
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ralphm
MattJ: I understand that
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Kev
waqas: I'm not opposed to that. Although I'd rather I didn't have to remember it.
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MattJ
Fritzy, subscription to the filter?
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Kev
Something for AOB.
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ralphm
anyway
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Fritzy
I don't see what the complaint is for since it only contains to the key to the filter subscription.
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MattJ
What filter subscription?
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Fritzy
example 3
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dwd
[log URI?]
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MattJ
Fritzy, Read what I said to ralphm above
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MattJ
You and he need to read the XEP again I suspect :)
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ralphm
I believe we once figured out a way to discover special addresses at servers
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ralphm
e.g. for reaching admins and what not
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Fritzy
ah
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Fritzy
ok
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Fritzy
I get that now
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ralphm
I think that should cover it
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MattJ
Fritzy, to be clear that stanza is just an example, it could also be a <message>
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Fritzy
so you're complaining about a specific jid
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MattJ
Obviously if 2 *council members* don't understand this then the XEP needs clarifying :)
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Kev
For what it's worth, I didn't think this was anything like as bad as you two do.
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Tobias
MattJ: or the xep needs to wait for a new council ;)
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MattJ
No, I like it... it's simple, and fits well with the other XEPs we have
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Fritzy
MattJ: or wait, you're complaining about the stanza that is marked with a key.
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MattJ
Fritzy, yes, now you're getting it :)
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ralphm
MattJ: maybe you are right. I am still unsure about the usefulness.
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Fritzy
sounds useful to me... if a bit noisy
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MattJ
For example, reports could lower entity reputation, they could automatically add to block lists, etc.
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Kev
I'll agree with it being noisy, but I think you need that if you want this level of control.
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MattJ
Fritzy, if you read further it says to only include these tags in certain stanzas
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Fritzy
right, I see that.
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MattJ
Like initial subscription requests, or messages from people not in your roster
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MattJ
So yes, it's "noisy", but only where it has to be
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Fritzy
There might also be a need to optionally have a form for complaints from specific filters to make it more useful.
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MattJ
The alternative would be to drop per-stanza reporting, but that has issues
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Fritzy
so you could explain what you're complaining about
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Fritzy
or suggest an action
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ralphm
I think the marking bit is ok, but I'm not very sure about soliciting reports on individual stanzas
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MattJ
Yes, I think Dave may have suggested something like that on the list
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Kev
Ok, so, cutting this short.
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Kev
Are Fritzy and/or Ralph still -1?
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stpeter
using <presence type='subscribe'/> seems odd for this purpose...
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MattJ
stpeter, not you too... :)
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Kev
I picked a good day to take time out to read the proposals at length, I think :)
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MattJ
stpeter, that is a normal subscription request from one user to another user
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MattJ
Kev, likewise :)
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stpeter
anyway I can post to the list about it
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Kev
So, the proposal clearly needs clarification.
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ralphm
MattJ: the problem is not in the fact that it is presence, it is the fact that every stanza is littered with lists of filters that you could report a stanza to as 'spim'.
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MattJ
stpeter, the "filters" inject these tags so that the recipient can know where to report the stanza to
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Fritzy
stpeter: it isn't using -- it's just marking that to show how to complain about
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dwd
FWIW, my general thought was that it's an interesting start, we need something like this, and this is a solidly documented proposal.
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Kev
The question is if Fritzy and Ralph are still vetoing it.
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MattJ
dwd, I agree
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Kev
There are much less well-written protoXEPs.
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ralphm
dwd: true
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Kev
Several are sitting in my outbox.
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dwd
The details could be a lot better, but it's a step in the right direction and a solid base.
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ralphm
dwd: would you implement something like this?
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stpeter
however, I am almost always in favor of publication to get discussion going, put the spec into source control, etc.
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ralphm
MattJ: ?
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Kev
ralphm: I'd strongly consider it (client)
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MattJ
ralphm, yes?
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stpeter
not that I have vote at the moment :)
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Kev
Ok, this item is going on much too long.
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ralphm
I am trying to get a feel of the demand for something like this
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Kev
Fritzy: Are you still -1?
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Kev
ralphm: Are you still -1?
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MattJ
ralphm, I'd implement it
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MattJ
For sure
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Fritzy
I'm no longer vetoing it for experimental, but I think it warrants some cleanup and discussion.
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dwd
I suspect some of our partners may be interested. I suspect we might be too. With some evolution, obviously.
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Kev
Spam filtering is something that would really interest me to implement server-side.
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ralphm
I'm 0
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dwd
Fritzy, Oh, for sure.
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MattJ
We've accepted far worse protoXEPs... :)
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Kev
Appeals to my past life as a labrat.
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Kev
Ok, excellent.
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MattJ
Yay
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dwd
Kev, Just *don't* mention it to David...
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Kev
The XEP Editor can publish, and we'll free-for-all on the standards list.
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Fritzy
yeah, so when will this be in M-link?
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Fritzy
;)
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Kev
dwd: Could get interesting.
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Kev
4) ProtoXEP - Bidirectional Server-to-Server Connections. http://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/bidi.html
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Kev
Accept?
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MattJ
+1
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ralphm
+1
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Kev
I object to the formatting of example 3 breaking the XML highlighter, but am in favour.
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MattJ
Only time has stopped me implementing this
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Kev
I've already complained to one of the authors about that :)
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ralphm
dwd: I'm curious about idleness and disconnects
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dwd
This is Fippo's write-up of my suggestion of resolving Justin's issue as raised in 2003 or something.
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Fritzy
Definitely +1
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Fritzy
we need to get somethign out there that solves this.
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Kev
remko:?
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remko
+1
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ralphm
dwd: did you think about that yet?
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dwd
ralphm, I believe that's unaffected. Indeed, I think it's much easier to manage idleness and 198 and things with bidi.
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Kev
5) New term applications reminder.
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dwd
ralphm, For a start, doing ping-checks across S2S is a PITA.
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MattJ
Reminded, thanks :)
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dwd
ralphm, (without bidi)
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Kev
Just a reminder to anyone thinking of reapplying or applying that the application period will close in a touch over a week.
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remko
ok
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Kev
stpeter: Kev is *always* in 30min meeting mode.
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Kev
Or ideall 20.
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MattJ
dwd, it's not when you have send_iq() :)
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Kev
6) Date of next meeting.
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Kev
Fritzy: Mondays are difficult for you - when is less difficult?
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dwd
MattJ, No, because the response still comes back over a different socket.
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MattJ
dwd, doesn't matter... it means the one you sent on is fine
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Fritzy
Tues-Fri any other time is less difficult
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Kev
Fritzy: Any *other* time?
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Kev
Implying this time is bad any day?
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dwd
MattJ, Track that over a cluster...
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MattJ
dwd, I shall do some day :)
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Fritzy
Monday afternoon or Tues-Fri any time.
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ralphm
Fritzy: UTC times, please
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Kev
Later than this is a nuisance for me, and I suspect other .eu people, although I could manage an hour later ok I think.
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Fritzy
+2 hrs than this or Tues-Fri
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Fritzy
I'm fine with next Monday same time though
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Fritzy
just as a tendency
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ralphm
:-)
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Fritzy
I often have meetings on Monday morning
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Kev
Ok.
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Fritzy
and other catch-up
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stpeter
is it worth working this out before the new Council is elected?
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Kev
Well, does anyone have difficulty with Tuesday, at the same time?
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ralphm
stpeter: my thought
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Fritzy
stpeter: yeah, I'm fine with working this out in the next council if I'm still on
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ralphm
lets just finish the term with this slot
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Kev
stpeter: There are enough weeks left that if 20% of Council can't make the meetings, it's probably worth sorting IMO.
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stpeter
(if there is a new Council considering that http://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Board_and_Council_Elections_2010 is empty!)
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ralphm
woops
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MattJ
:D
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Fritzy
haha
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Kev
stpeter: My app's written, but not linked.
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stpeter
darn, I was hoping to be elected the Council-of-One :)
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Fritzy
let's just do Monday next week for now
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Fritzy
same time same bat-channel
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Kev
Ok.
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remko
ok
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Kev
Any other business?
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ralphm
stpeter: you're running?
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Kev
Calendaring and microblogs from waqas.
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Fritzy
yay
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ralphm
oh
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ralphm
application for fosdem
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Kev
k.
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Kev
So, Matt - are you still (generally) doing the calendar entries?
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ralphm
we want the full shebang again?
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stpeter
ralphm: I was going to if no one else did, that way I could dispense with all this democratic-process nonsense :)
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Kev
ralphm: Let's do the other first.
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ralphm
Kev: ok
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MattJ
Kev, I was, then stpeter was... that got me out of the habit :)
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MattJ
I can start reminding myself again
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Kev
Ok.
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Kev
Who wants to announce on identi.ca?
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ralphm
wait what?
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Kev
Is there an XSF account?
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MattJ
stpeter is busy enough that we should ban him from trivial things like editing calendars
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Kev
Do we want to do this?
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stpeter
if it's in the calendar, people will tend to remember it
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MattJ
There is an XSF account
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stpeter
Kev: there is
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Fritzy
I believe there is an XSF account on identi.ca
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ralphm
do what?
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Kev
Announce meetings on identi.ca - it was waqas's suggestion earlier.
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ralphm
ah
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ralphm
sure
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ralphm
+1
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Kev
I'm happy to delay such changes to process until the new Council take over.
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stpeter
attendance goes up if we announce it 15 minutes before the meeting
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Fritzy
xmpp uris!
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ralphm
Kev: nah
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Kev
But we can start doing it now
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Kev
who wants to do it?
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ralphm
Kev: you!
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stpeter
I find myself not paying attention to identi.ca anymore :(
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Kev
I guess the Chair can do it, but he's likely to forget.
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MattJ
How about... I take it on, but I'll write a bot
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Kev
stpeter: I've disabled the XMPP bot now, too distracting.
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ralphm
MattJ: haha
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stpeter
+1 to bot
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Kev
MattJ: perfect, ta.
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Kev
Ok.
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Kev
FOSDEM:
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Kev
Ralph :)
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ralphm
right
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Kev
Your 2 minutes start now.
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stpeter
MattJ: poke me if you need the password for the XSF account
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ralphm
it's that time of year again to apply for a devroom and a booth
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MattJ
stpeter, I think I know it, thanks
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ralphm
at FOSDEM
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stpeter
k
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ralphm
5/6 feb 2011
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Kev
ralphm: I'm inclined to say we want the status quo.
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ralphm
ok
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Kev
devroom was overflowing last year.
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stpeter
yeah that was fun
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ralphm
Did I do the application this year?
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MattJ
Heh
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ralphm
I forgot
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ralphm
I can do it this time, again
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stpeter
yes you did
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stpeter
at least, I didn't :)
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ralphm
:-)
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Kev
I think this is probably Board, rather than Council, mind.
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MattJ
ralphm, you could always ask the assistance of the communications team if you need it :)
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stpeter
Board meeting on Tuesday of this week
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stpeter
we could discuss there
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Tobias
dwd: a little late, just had to add an A record, but here are the logs :P http://logs.xmpp.org/muc_log/muc.xmpp.org/council/100920/
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ralphm
Kev: nah, it has always been done by me, basically
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stpeter
xmpp:xsf@muc.xmpp.org?join
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stpeter
it's in the calendar, too
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ralphm
with no particular strong binding to the xsf
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Fritzy
Can bidi be extended to include dwd's multi-domain per s2s connection with signatures?
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Tobias
set the topic to
XMPP Council Room | http://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Radar | http://logs.xmpp.org/muc_log/muc.xmpp.org/council/
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stpeter
ralphm: right
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ralphm
although we always went as such
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stpeter
ralphm: and I'm fine with that!
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Tobias
set the topic to
XMPP Council Room | http://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Radaras
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MattJ
Tobias, sensible URLs for the logs? You deserve a bonus :)
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MattJ
Tobias, I couldn't get that working
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Tobias
MattJ: i didn't do nothing :)
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Tobias
just had the record added :D
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ralphm
just more of a reminder, and I'm wondering if we plan to do a summit again
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Kev
ralphm: Well, if we get a room, I'm happy.
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Tobias
MattJ: config and all was already there
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MattJ
We're doing a summit if we can get somewhere with windows, I think
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Kev
I'd hope we'd do a summit again, although that needs (probably Board) volunteers to arrange.
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ralphm
MattJ: +1
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Kev
Right, windows would be nice. Internets even nicer.
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MattJ
We've been underground far too long :)
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stpeter
I've heard that I can get a free meeting room at a Cisco location near the airport (not in the center)
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Kev
stpeter: I think that's worth strongly considering.
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stpeter
but I need to ask and get that organized
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stpeter
to see if it's doable
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Kev
Could someone ask Board to discuss this tomorrow, please?
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stpeter
yes
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Tobias
MattJ: but i guess it would be nice to eliminate the the mud_log/muc.xmpp.org parts..it blows the whole thing up and there aren't any other muc components running
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Kev
Ta.
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MattJ
Tobias, +1
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stpeter
Board meetings are open, BTW
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Kev
I think we're out of agenda items then, unless there's AOAOB.
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MattJ
I'm done
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Kev
stpeter: I'll be trying to remember to attend.
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Kev
I'll knock out the minutes tomorrow morning, probably.
- ralphm hands the gavel
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Kev
Ok, we're done then
- Kev bangs the gavel.
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Kev
Thanks all.
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MattJ
Thanks
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ralphm
hooray
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Fritzy
Kev/stpeter: has there been any progress made on multi-domain and single cert + signatures per s2s connection?
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remko
thanks
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stpeter
Kev: added to http://typewith.me/EyJg4G3XSr
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ralphm
oh, fosdem also requests ideas for main track speakers
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Kev
stpeter: ta.
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Fritzy
aka: the gtalk problem
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ralphm
not something I've done, but if anyone wants to speak...
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stpeter
Fritzy: see http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-barnes-xmpp-dna-00
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Fritzy
stpeter: thanks
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stpeter
Fritzy: there is also http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-xmpp-dna-00 (expired), but the doc from Richard Barnes incorporates discussion at the meeting in Maastricht in late July
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Fritzy
cool
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MattJ
ralphm, I'd likely forget to take my coat off ;)
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stpeter
Kev: will you have time to write up minutes for this meeting? any other volunteers?
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Kev
Isode are fairly kind people, I'll do it tomorrow morning.
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Kev
Unless someone else has a burning desire to get involved!
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stpeter
:)
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stpeter
I might find time to do it this evening (Mountain Time)
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stpeter
but not before then
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stpeter
brb
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Fritzy
stpeter: thanks!
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Kev
stpeter: If you want to beat me to it, feel free.
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Tobias
k..would be handy if one of those *admin folk* would add this to the topic line: http://logs.xmpp.org/council
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MattJ
set the topic to
XMPP Council Room | http://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Radar | Room logs: http://logs.xmpp.org/council
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MattJ
It's not happy with that... the URLs it directs to are wrong
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Tobias
works for me
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Kev
Not for me.
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Tobias
http://logs.xmpp.org/100714/ <-- this is wrong indeed :)
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Kev
You end up trying http://logs.xmpp.org/100920/council/council/council/council/council/council/
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Kev
Before deciding that no matter how many times you press it, it won't work.
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stpeter
heh
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Tobias
Kev: what did you do to get that?
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MattJ
I'll probably look at that, the person who wrote the code originally has gone AWOL :)
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Kev
Clicked today's tade, then clicked council
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Kev
then clicked council
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Kev
then clicked council
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Kev
etc.
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ralphm
FOSDEM this year marks a preference for 'encompassing topics'
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ralphm
shall I suggest related, open protocols as a possible grander theme?
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Kev
Isn't that always our grander theme?
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Tobias
Kev: the link seems to have to have a / at the end
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Tobias
mind changing that in the topic?
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ralphm
Kev: sure, but we've always 'marketed' the room as xmpp specific
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Kev
Ah, I see.
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ralphm
even though our community is clearly broader in interest
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Kev
Well, we could do extensible social stuff.
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Tobias
set the topic to
XMPP Council Room | http://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Radar | Room logs: http://logs.xmpp.org/council/
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ralphm
they might then opt to have a bigger room and hook us up with other open protocols people
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ralphm
which I think is nice
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ralphm
(and we do the summit, too)
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Kev
I think our tie to open social stuff is more useful than our tie to generic open protocols.
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Kev
open social protocols works.
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ralphm
nod
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ralphm
that'd be the thing
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ralphm
most of the talk on open protocols revolves around this topic anyway
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Kev
Well, they should all be using XMPP, so sure :D
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ralphm
oauth, openid, discovery thingies, etc.
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ralphm
haha
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Tobias
Kev: mind adding a / to the log url at top?
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ralphm
application done
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MattJ
set the topic to
XMPP Council Room | http://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Radar | Room logs: http://logs.xmpp.org/council/
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Tobias
thanks kev
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MattJ
np
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MattJ
Tobias, without '/' should probably redirect
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MattJ
I'll add that to the tracker
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MattJ
(prosody-modules tracker, that is)
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Tobias
ok :)
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Tobias
since i tried that and failed pretty fast and though i should give up pretty fast too
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Tobias
:P
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MattJ
:)
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Tobias
MattJ: do you have admin access to the MLs?
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Kev
I do.
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MattJ
No, thankfully
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Tobias
Kev: could you tell me if there's something in xmpp-commit moderation queue?
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Kev
Peter normally manages them, mind.
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Tobias
since i pushed something to the repo and it was supposed to send a mail to there
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Kev
what's the mailing list address?
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Kev
xmpp-commit@xmpp.org?
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Kev
Gottit, nevermind.
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Tobias
k
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Kev
Now, let's work out what the password is.
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Kev
I don't see any pending mails.
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Tobias
strange
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Tobias
i've added the mailinglist = foo stuff to the hook section of the repo config
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Tobias
and enabled the post-receive hook
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mlundblad
was there a council meeting tonight?
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remko
yes
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Tobias
remko: btw: did you get your prosody issues sorted out?
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remko
mattj is on it, as always
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remko
it's related to xep-198
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Tobias
ah.ok
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MattJ
remko, btw... I found no broken hashes in my contact list
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MattJ
Well, actually I found 2... let me send that email, I'm getting like waqas :)
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remko
you found no broken hashes, but actually 2?
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remko
that doesn't sound like 'no' to me :)
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Tobias
more noish :)
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remko
yes, my contact list is also clean, but the latest adium beta has a bug
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remko
and i suspect jabbim and jabber2jabber as well
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Tobias
latest? the one released yesterday?
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remko
oh darn, was there a release yesterday?
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Tobias
yup
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Tobias
1.4b19
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remko
ah yes, it was a beta
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remko
actually, i even tried the nightly, same problem
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Tobias
k
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remko
and jabber2jabber uses gloox i'm told
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remko
so that seems to be aligned with mattj's mail
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MattJ
Yes... Spectrum also uses gloox, and it's likely the same issue
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MattJ
since someone found that Spectrum contacts report as invalid also
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MattJ
It generates a correct hash, but doesn't add any features to the disco results when a node is included
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remko
jabber2jabber uses spectrum
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remko
right, adium has a similar problem
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remko
it hashes correctly, but doesn't update the hash if you add some features
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MattJ
Ah
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remko
that's the price you pay for caching ;-)
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remko
bugs
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remko
:)
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remko
anyway, i'm off, ttyl
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MattJ
Prosody caches it too, but it regenerates for every new feature added/removed :)
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MattJ
Heh
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