XMPP Council - 2010-10-25

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  15. Kev

    76 minutes until last Council of term.

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  23. Kev


  24. Kev

    I've chased Matt, who's the only person online.

  25. Kev

    But he's away.

  26. stpeter


  27. stpeter

    we need to elect a new council

  28. stpeter

    oh, we're doing that today :)

  29. stpeter

    throw da bums out!

  30. Kev

    Well, in past years everyone turning up 15mins late has been fairly common.

  31. Kev

    So we'll give them a few minutes. This year's Council have been slightly more dilligent and punctual than many have been :)

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  34. Kev

    I wanted to get my protoXEP approved :(

  35. stpeter

    were any objections raised?

  36. Kev

    No, but tonight's the start of the objection period.

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  38. Kev

    But only if there's a meeting, which there isn't unless two more people turn up.

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  41. stpeter

    I'm not seeing people online

  42. Kev

    Me neither.

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  44. Kev

    So that's 2/3 of quorum.

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  46. Kev

    I think we're fast approaching the point that we just give up.

  47. Kev

    Matt is online again now...

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  50. MattJ

    Sorry folks

  51. Kev

    1) Roll call.

  52. Kev

    Kevin, Remko and Matt.

  53. Kev

    2) Agenda bashing.

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  56. Kev

    We now have an 8 minute meeting instead of the usual 30 :)

  57. Kev

    3) XEP-0201 (Threads) http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0201.html Advance to Active?

  58. stpeter


  59. MattJ

    +1 :)

  60. stpeter

    I suppose the new Council might need to vote on this one anyway

  61. Kev

    I think this is something that needs to be updated as we get real deployment experience with threads, but I'm fine with it now anyway.

  62. stpeter

    if the old Council doesn't complete its voting :)

  63. Kev

    stpeter: I don't think so, we have quorum tonight.

  64. stpeter

    ah, true

  65. remko


  66. Kev

    So if Ralph and Fritzy don't -1 it in the next fortnight, their votes are +0, and it goes through with a majority.

  67. stpeter

    "DNV" baby!

  68. Kev

    4) XEP-xxxx: Federated MUC for constrained environments http://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/fmuc.html Accept as Experimental?

  69. remko


  70. MattJ

    +1 to accepting

  71. Kev

    I am, obviously, also in favour.

  72. Kev

    4) XEP-xxxx: Federated MUC for constrained environments http://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/fmuc.html Accept as Experimental?

  73. MattJ

    I haven't given it a thorough read, but it specs out roughly what I was already thinking was the best approach

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  75. Kev

    5) Procedure: Inviting authors to meetings. Philipp Hancke requests authors be invited, discuss.

  76. Kev

    MattJ: Right, rooms join rooms, with graceful degradation for slow links.

  77. MattJ

    First thought: Haven't we discussed this before?

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  79. Kev

    We discussed inviting people for accepting protoXEPs.

  80. MattJ

    Ah, I see

  81. Kev

    We roughly agreed, I tried it with the first few people who didn't normally turn up anyway, and they said they were too busy.

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  83. MattJ

    I think there are two things here

  84. stpeter

    I'm looking forward to (re-)reading all the fedmuc proposals

  85. Kev

    Philipp suggested inviting people every time their XEPs were on the agenda. I mostly put it here so it can be an action for next Council to discuss.

  86. MattJ

    One is whether we notify authors when their spec is on the agenda

  87. Kev

    As I don't think this Council needs to make a decision on it.

  88. MattJ

    This seems reasonable, though it could be argued they should follow their specs closer

  89. stpeter

    maybe we should invite Council members :)

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  91. Kev

    stpeter: Yes, that might be nice.

  92. MattJ

    The second is whether we /require/ them to be there, which was also discussed previously - I don't think we need go down that route :)

  93. MattJ

    stpeter, I'm working on a council bot, FWIW :)

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  95. MattJ

    which will include notifications, and updating the topic

  96. Kev

    Which will stand for Council 5 times in 2011, doing away with the need for the human factor.

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  99. paul

    The ability for arbitrary people to request reminders would be nice, MattJ :)

  100. MattJ

    +1 to everything

  101. MattJ

    paul, pubsub? :)

  102. Kev

    Right, so I'll look forward to this bot, and I'll write an action in the minutes for next Council to discuss.

  103. Kev

    6) Thanks all.

  104. paul

    Sure! :)

  105. MattJ

    What happened to AOB? :P

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  107. Kev

    So, I'd like to thank the current Council for all their hard work and turning up so diligently :)

  108. Kev

    7) Any other business.

  109. stpeter loves that ironic British sense of humour

  110. remko

    i'ld like to apoligize to the council chair for not turning up very diligently

  111. Kev

    remko: You are here at the moment...

  112. MattJ

    I don't /really/ have any AOB, other than my apologies for not turning up last week, which iirc is the only time I have not done so :)

  113. stpeter

    remko: don't worry, your lifetime pension payments are based on your salary on your final day of employment!

  114. MattJ

    there wasn't anything I needed to vote on, was there? I did read the logs and it didn't seem that way

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  116. MattJ

    Good :)

  117. Kev

    MattJ: No, we elected to last call dialback, and to schedule a vote on threads for this meeting.

  118. MattJ

    Yep, I'm going to give some feedback on dialback

  119. stpeter

    now that the bis drafts are done I'm going to get busy on XEPs again -- just warning you all!

  120. Kev

    So, I think we're all done, and we'll leave it to the next Council to decide when the next meeting is.

  121. MattJ

    stpeter, yay!

  122. MattJ

    We've been missing our editor, really

  123. stpeter

    the next Council will have lots to work on

  124. Kev

    Thanks, Council of 2009/2010!

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  127. MattJ

    Thanks chair!

  128. Kev

    I'll send out some minutes tomorrow.

  129. stpeter

    thanks, Kev

  130. remko

    thanks kev

  131. stpeter

    brb, and see you in the xsf@ room in little while...

  132. MattJ

    xsf@? or foundation@?

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  134. MattJ

    Changes changes :)

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  137. ralphm

    sorry I missed it

  138. ralphm

    thanks all for this term

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