XMPP Council - 2010-10-25


  1. Kev

    76 minutes until last Council of term.

  2. stpeter waves to Kev

  3. Kev

    *wave*

  4. Kev

    I've chased Matt, who's the only person online.

  5. Kev

    But he's away.

  6. stpeter

    losers

  7. stpeter

    we need to elect a new council

  8. stpeter

    oh, we're doing that today :)

  9. stpeter

    throw da bums out!

  10. Kev

    Well, in past years everyone turning up 15mins late has been fairly common.

  11. Kev

    So we'll give them a few minutes. This year's Council have been slightly more dilligent and punctual than many have been :)

  12. Kev

    IMHOYMMVIANAL

  13. Tobias

    heh

  14. Kev

    I wanted to get my protoXEP approved :(

  15. stpeter

    were any objections raised?

  16. Kev

    No, but tonight's the start of the objection period.

  17. stpeter

    ah!

  18. Kev

    But only if there's a meeting, which there isn't unless two more people turn up.

  19. stpeter

    hmph

  20. stpeter

    yeah

  21. stpeter

    I'm not seeing people online

  22. Kev

    Me neither.

  23. Kev

    So that's 2/3 of quorum.

  24. remko

    hidilyho

  25. Kev

    I think we're fast approaching the point that we just give up.

  26. Kev

    Matt is online again now...

  27. Kev

    Quorum!

  28. MattJ

    Sorry folks

  29. Kev

    1) Roll call.

  30. Kev

    Kevin, Remko and Matt.

  31. Kev

    2) Agenda bashing.

  32. MattJ

    None

  33. Kev

    We now have an 8 minute meeting instead of the usual 30 :)

  34. Kev

    3) XEP-0201 (Threads) http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0201.html Advance to Active?

  35. stpeter

    hehe

  36. MattJ

    +1 :)

  37. stpeter

    I suppose the new Council might need to vote on this one anyway

  38. Kev

    I think this is something that needs to be updated as we get real deployment experience with threads, but I'm fine with it now anyway.

  39. stpeter

    if the old Council doesn't complete its voting :)

  40. Kev

    stpeter: I don't think so, we have quorum tonight.

  41. stpeter

    ah, true

  42. remko

    +1

  43. Kev

    So if Ralph and Fritzy don't -1 it in the next fortnight, their votes are +0, and it goes through with a majority.

  44. stpeter

    "DNV" baby!

  45. Kev

    4) XEP-xxxx: Federated MUC for constrained environments http://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/fmuc.html Accept as Experimental?

  46. remko

    +1

  47. MattJ

    +1 to accepting

  48. Kev

    I am, obviously, also in favour.

  49. Kev

    4) XEP-xxxx: Federated MUC for constrained environments http://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/fmuc.html Accept as Experimental?

  50. MattJ

    I haven't given it a thorough read, but it specs out roughly what I was already thinking was the best approach

  51. Kev

    Uhm

  52. Kev

    5) Procedure: Inviting authors to meetings. Philipp Hancke requests authors be invited, discuss.

  53. Kev

    MattJ: Right, rooms join rooms, with graceful degradation for slow links.

  54. MattJ

    First thought: Haven't we discussed this before?

  55. Kev

    Almost.

  56. Kev

    We discussed inviting people for accepting protoXEPs.

  57. MattJ

    Ah, I see

  58. Kev

    We roughly agreed, I tried it with the first few people who didn't normally turn up anyway, and they said they were too busy.

  59. MattJ

    Heh

  60. MattJ

    I think there are two things here

  61. stpeter

    I'm looking forward to (re-)reading all the fedmuc proposals

  62. Kev

    Philipp suggested inviting people every time their XEPs were on the agenda. I mostly put it here so it can be an action for next Council to discuss.

  63. MattJ

    One is whether we notify authors when their spec is on the agenda

  64. Kev

    As I don't think this Council needs to make a decision on it.

  65. MattJ

    This seems reasonable, though it could be argued they should follow their specs closer

  66. stpeter

    maybe we should invite Council members :)

  67. Tobias

    heh

  68. Kev

    stpeter: Yes, that might be nice.

  69. MattJ

    The second is whether we /require/ them to be there, which was also discussed previously - I don't think we need go down that route :)

  70. MattJ

    stpeter, I'm working on a council bot, FWIW :)

  71. stpeter

    excellent!

  72. MattJ

    which will include notifications, and updating the topic

  73. Kev

    Which will stand for Council 5 times in 2011, doing away with the need for the human factor.

  74. stpeter

    :)

  75. MattJ

    :)

  76. paul

    The ability for arbitrary people to request reminders would be nice, MattJ :)

  77. MattJ

    +1 to everything

  78. MattJ

    paul, pubsub? :)

  79. Kev

    Right, so I'll look forward to this bot, and I'll write an action in the minutes for next Council to discuss.

  80. Kev

    6) Thanks all.

  81. paul

    Sure! :)

  82. MattJ

    What happened to AOB? :P

  83. remko

    welcome

  84. Kev

    So, I'd like to thank the current Council for all their hard work and turning up so diligently :)

  85. Kev

    7) Any other business.

  86. stpeter loves that ironic British sense of humour

  87. remko

    i'ld like to apoligize to the council chair for not turning up very diligently

  88. Kev

    remko: You are here at the moment...

  89. MattJ

    I don't /really/ have any AOB, other than my apologies for not turning up last week, which iirc is the only time I have not done so :)

  90. stpeter

    remko: don't worry, your lifetime pension payments are based on your salary on your final day of employment!

  91. MattJ

    there wasn't anything I needed to vote on, was there? I did read the logs and it didn't seem that way

  92. stpeter

    nope

  93. MattJ

    Good :)

  94. Kev

    MattJ: No, we elected to last call dialback, and to schedule a vote on threads for this meeting.

  95. MattJ

    Yep, I'm going to give some feedback on dialback

  96. stpeter

    now that the bis drafts are done I'm going to get busy on XEPs again -- just warning you all!

  97. Kev

    So, I think we're all done, and we'll leave it to the next Council to decide when the next meeting is.

  98. MattJ

    stpeter, yay!

  99. MattJ

    We've been missing our editor, really

  100. stpeter

    the next Council will have lots to work on

  101. Kev

    Thanks, Council of 2009/2010!

  102. Kev bangs the gavel.

  103. remko

    yaaay

  104. MattJ

    Thanks chair!

  105. Kev

    I'll send out some minutes tomorrow.

  106. stpeter

    thanks, Kev

  107. remko

    thanks kev

  108. stpeter

    brb, and see you in the xsf@ room in little while...

  109. MattJ

    xsf@? or foundation@?

  110. MattJ

    xsf

  111. MattJ

    Changes changes :)

  112. Kev

    xsf@

  113. ralphm

    sorry I missed it

  114. ralphm

    thanks all for this term