XMPP Council - 2011-01-12

we're scheduled to have a meeting soon, right?

9mins, yeah.

My alarm should go off in about 5.

:)

Mind's all over the place today, unusual for me to set an alarm.

my mind's been all over the place since the first of the year, it seems

ditto

but maybe it's this spell of vertigo I've got... ;-)

today I'm going to start reviews of open issues related to various topics for the Summit

then post summary messages to standards@

first up will be XEP-0198

I'll start updating http://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Radar too

*ding*

Righty.

*dong*

1) Baps

Matt and Matt seem to be here, missing Ralph and Nathan.

2) Agenda Bashing.

None

none here

I might have some AOB items at the end

3) Encapsulated Digital Signatures in XMPP http://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/encapsulated-signatures.html Accept as XEP?

I don't see a reason not to.

This is Kurt's alternative to the Encapsulating signatures XEP.

+1

I'm much more keen on encapsulated signatures.

so this is intended to replace XEP-0285?

stpeter: not immediately.

I mean: Publishing this doesn't deprecate 285

sure

Kev, but is that the intention in the long run?

The intention is that this is going to prove to be much better and 285 would be retracted.

but in general Kurt prefers this new approach to the older one

ok

super

I love it when authors do some rethinking

(-:

Kurt would have updated the old one, but I suggested that as it was a completely different approach it deserved a new XEP.

makes sense to me

And it's partly down to a misunderstanding with me that Kurt did 285 in the first place - this was always his preference, I believe.

Ok, +1 then :)

4) Service Delegation http://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/service-delegation.html Accept as XEP?

There are issues that I have with this, but they're not core.

So I'd rather publish and address.

always my preference :)

same here

+1

Someone (in jdev?) suggested PEP would be better, I think it's worth thinking about

Right.

It's something that is worth addressing, though, I'm happy for this XEP to evolve to it.

Agreed

This is going to be interesting to ST and co too, I expect.

/nod

now if gmail.com would support PEP...

hrm yeah

Right, was that not objecting from both Matts?

sì

It was

Great.

Next meeting - next Wednesday?

I'm going to have problems with several weeks after that, for assorted reasons.

WFM

+1

Some insurmountable some not :)

+1

wow…I've got time to get to my next meeting!

Righty, what was your 6) AOB Then, Peter?

rightio

I chatted with Emil Ivov of SIP Communicator (soon to be Jitsi) and we think that the ZRTP spec is ready for Last Call (XEP-0262)

they have an implementation

and feedback has been incorporated

however, he and his team will be at FOSDEM

very nice

so we could chat with him there and then issue the Last Call

no real preference here

Let's chat at FOSDEM with people we can chat with at FOSDEM.

the ZRTP spec was approved at the IETF last year but still doesn't have an RFC number

sure, WFM

same goes for Jingle Early Media (XEP-0269)

I need to poke Justin Uberti about that one, too

http://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Radar needs serious attention, but I've started that this morning

I hope 3920bis gets an RFC number before the year is out :)

this will result in lots of experimental XEPs going dormant etc.

MattJ: I hold the record for addressing and approving RFC Editor feedback, I hope to break that record this time ;-)

:)

stpeter: Radar was originally for my benefit, I think, and I'm not in need of that any more.

Kev: I think it will help me stay more organized :)

But if you have other reasons for updating it, feel free :)

So will MaybeLater, I'm sure :)

heh

true

ok, that's my AOB item

Great, anyone else?

Not here

not today

Fab.

not here, not today, not right now!

oh, other than I have tickets and hotel accommodations for FOSDEM

woot!

Yay!

that was the fastest I've ever had travel booked and approved

literally 20 minutes

Fab.

Let's get multi-resource sorted :)

definitely

.o0( ouch )

stpeter: Move them all to another folder, and just move them back 50 at a time or so.

Hoorah for mind tricks.

Anyway.

:)

Thanks all, tune in next week, same bat time, same bat channel.

excellent

Thanks Kev

And for making me feel far too old - http://superuser.com/questions/231273/what-are-the-windows-a-and-b-drives-used-for

oh wow

I just found my first HDD … a whole whopping 40MB

alright … adios amigos

heh

mine was 20

Thanks Peter.

http://xmpp.org/extensions/ is nice if you allow googleapis.com to run scripts :)

:)

hey Remko!

hey peter

i thought i'ld drop in to see how the meeting went :)

hehe

yeah, Kev is quick about meetings

(i did see your microblog announcement in time, though. Good initiative ;-))

Kev just has a very short atte

yeah the infrastructure team needs to automate that!

:)

true