XMPP Council - 2011-01-12

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  10. stpeter we're scheduled to have a meeting soon, right?
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  12. Kev 9mins, yeah.
  13. Kev My alarm should go off in about 5.
  14. stpeter :)
  15. Kev Mind's all over the place today, unusual for me to set an alarm.
  16. stpeter my mind's been all over the place since the first of the year, it seems
  17. linuxwolf ditto
  18. stpeter but maybe it's this spell of vertigo I've got... ;-)
  19. linuxwolf goes to refill coffee before meeting
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  21. stpeter today I'm going to start reviews of open issues related to various topics for the Summit
  22. stpeter then post summary messages to standards@
  23. stpeter first up will be XEP-0198
  24. stpeter I'll start updating http://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Radar too
  25. MattJ *ding*
  26. Kev Righty.
  27. linuxwolf *dong*
  28. Kev 1) Baps
  29. Kev Matt and Matt seem to be here, missing Ralph and Nathan.
  30. Kev 2) Agenda Bashing.
  31. MattJ None
  32. linuxwolf none here
  33. stpeter I might have some AOB items at the end
  34. Kev 3) Encapsulated Digital Signatures in XMPP http://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/encapsulated-signatures.html Accept as XEP?
  35. Kev I don't see a reason not to.
  36. Kev This is Kurt's alternative to the Encapsulating signatures XEP.
  37. linuxwolf +1
  38. Kev I'm much more keen on encapsulated signatures.
  39. stpeter so this is intended to replace XEP-0285?
  40. Kev stpeter: not immediately.
  41. Kev I mean: Publishing this doesn't deprecate 285
  42. stpeter sure
  43. MattJ Kev, but is that the intention in the long run?
  44. Kev The intention is that this is going to prove to be much better and 285 would be retracted.
  45. stpeter but in general Kurt prefers this new approach to the older one
  46. stpeter ok
  47. stpeter super
  48. stpeter I love it when authors do some rethinking
  49. linuxwolf (-:
  50. Kev Kurt would have updated the old one, but I suggested that as it was a completely different approach it deserved a new XEP.
  51. stpeter nods
  52. stpeter makes sense to me
  53. Kev And it's partly down to a misunderstanding with me that Kurt did 285 in the first place - this was always his preference, I believe.
  54. MattJ Ok, +1 then :)
  55. Kev 4) Service Delegation http://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/service-delegation.html Accept as XEP?
  56. Kev There are issues that I have with this, but they're not core.
  57. Kev So I'd rather publish and address.
  58. stpeter always my preference :)
  59. linuxwolf same here
  60. MattJ +1
  61. MattJ Someone (in jdev?) suggested PEP would be better, I think it's worth thinking about
  62. Kev Right.
  63. Kev It's something that is worth addressing, though, I'm happy for this XEP to evolve to it.
  64. MattJ Agreed
  65. Kev This is going to be interesting to ST and co too, I expect.
  66. linuxwolf /nod
  67. linuxwolf now if gmail.com would support PEP...
  68. stpeter hrm yeah
  69. Kev Right, was that not objecting from both Matts?
  70. linuxwolf
  71. MattJ It was
  72. Kev Great.
  73. Kev Next meeting - next Wednesday?
  74. Kev I'm going to have problems with several weeks after that, for assorted reasons.
  75. stpeter WFM
  76. MattJ +1
  77. Kev Some insurmountable some not :)
  78. linuxwolf +1
  79. linuxwolf wow…I've got time to get to my next meeting!
  80. Kev Righty, what was your 6) AOB Then, Peter?
  81. stpeter rightio
  82. stpeter I chatted with Emil Ivov of SIP Communicator (soon to be Jitsi) and we think that the ZRTP spec is ready for Last Call (XEP-0262)
  83. stpeter they have an implementation
  84. stpeter and feedback has been incorporated
  85. stpeter however, he and his team will be at FOSDEM
  86. linuxwolf very nice
  87. stpeter so we could chat with him there and then issue the Last Call
  88. stpeter no real preference here
  89. Kev Let's chat at FOSDEM with people we can chat with at FOSDEM.
  90. stpeter the ZRTP spec was approved at the IETF last year but still doesn't have an RFC number
  91. stpeter sure, WFM
  92. stpeter same goes for Jingle Early Media (XEP-0269)
  93. stpeter I need to poke Justin Uberti about that one, too
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  95. stpeter http://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Radar needs serious attention, but I've started that this morning
  96. MattJ I hope 3920bis gets an RFC number before the year is out :)
  97. stpeter this will result in lots of experimental XEPs going dormant etc.
  98. stpeter MattJ: I hold the record for addressing and approving RFC Editor feedback, I hope to break that record this time ;-)
  99. MattJ :)
  100. Kev stpeter: Radar was originally for my benefit, I think, and I'm not in need of that any more.
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  102. stpeter Kev: I think it will help me stay more organized :)
  103. Kev But if you have other reasons for updating it, feel free :)
  104. Kev So will MaybeLater, I'm sure :)
  105. stpeter heh
  106. stpeter true
  107. stpeter ok, that's my AOB item
  108. Kev Great, anyone else?
  109. MattJ Not here
  110. linuxwolf not today
  111. Kev Fab.
  112. stpeter not here, not today, not right now!
  113. linuxwolf oh, other than I have tickets and hotel accommodations for FOSDEM
  114. stpeter woot!
  115. Kev Yay!
  116. linuxwolf that was the fastest I've ever had travel booked and approved
  117. linuxwolf literally 20 minutes
  118. Kev Fab.
  119. Kev Let's get multi-resource sorted :)
  120. linuxwolf definitely
  121. stpeter looks at the 7170 messages in his inbox and blanches
  122. vt100 .o0( ouch )
  123. Kev stpeter: Move them all to another folder, and just move them back 50 at a time or so.
  124. Kev Hoorah for mind tricks.
  125. Kev Anyway.
  126. stpeter :)
  127. Kev Thanks all, tune in next week, same bat time, same bat channel.
  128. Kev bangs the gavel.
  129. stpeter excellent
  130. stpeter updates the calendar
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  132. MattJ Thanks Kev
  133. Kev And for making me feel far too old - http://superuser.com/questions/231273/what-are-the-windows-a-and-b-drives-used-for
  134. linuxwolf oh wow
  135. linuxwolf I just found my first HDD … a whole whopping 40MB
  136. linuxwolf alright … adios amigos
  137. stpeter heh
  138. stpeter mine was 20
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  140. stpeter runs calgen.py
  141. Kev Thanks Peter.
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  143. stpeter http://xmpp.org/extensions/ is nice if you allow googleapis.com to run scripts :)
  144. MattJ :)
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  146. stpeter hey Remko!
  147. remko hey peter
  148. remko i thought i'ld drop in to see how the meeting went :)
  149. stpeter hehe
  150. stpeter yeah, Kev is quick about meetings
  151. remko (i did see your microblog announcement in time, though. Good initiative ;-))
  152. Kev Kev just has a very short atte
  153. stpeter yeah the infrastructure team needs to automate that!
  154. stpeter :)
  155. remko true
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