ralphmWe might shoot for one main-track speaker next year, instead of wanting a bigger room
ralphmstpeter: many thanks for that
ralphmFor next year we'll probably do some things better/different
stpeteroh yes
ralphmsee stpeter's notes
stpeteryes
ralphmalso, we might want to think about moving the 'monday' to thursday instead
ralphmi.e. 2 days before FOSDEM
stpeterthose are notes from the piratepad, but I did the majority of the scribing, I think
ralphmthat leaves us less tired and late on monday
MattJralphm, what's the logic behind that?
stpeterralphm: we talked about that on Monday night
MattJOk
stpeter(at the "meating")
ralphmstpeter: yeah, intosi mentioned this
stpeterI think it's a good idea
linuxwolfalmost sorry I missed out
stpeterheh
KevUrgh.
ralphmI mean, we effectively used about 4 hours on monday
linuxwolfwell, no, I am sorry I missed out
ralphmwhich could be done better
stpeterso we'd have the Summit on Thursday and Friday
linuxwolf(Kev appears)
KevSorry, was out and couldn't get away.
linuxwolfno worries … we started without you (-:
ralphmstpeter: nod
KevRight.
Kev1) Here, late.
2) Yes, get rid of it.
linuxwolfhands gavel back to Kev
Kev3) Thu/Fri seems better than Fri/Mon.
Kevlinuxwolf: Happy for you to finish up with it :)
linuxwolfok then (-:
ralphmI assume most of the improvement notes will come up in board soonish
linuxwolfanything else on FOSDEM
ralphmthanks everyone!
KevIs anyone writing up technical notes?
MattJ+1 :)
stpeterlinuxwolf: not really, see the notes I posted
linuxwolfyes
MattJand next year I'd really like to at least audio-record the talks
ralphmMattJ: nod
MattJI know it takes someone to step up and do that, but I think I can
KevI can write up a summary if no-one else is.
linuxwolfKev: I'm working on council notes as we speak, stpeter posted Summit notes on list
KevAnd yes, thanks to everyone who arranged stuff.
KevAh, great.
linuxwolfok, moving on
ralphmMaybe we should put up a wiki page on this
linuxwolf3.2) Obsolete 190
ralphmso that improvements can be added there
linuxwolfnot a bad idea, anyone willing to take that on?
ralphm+1 on deprecating and deleting 190
Kev190 is covered by 6120 now, is it?
stpeterKev: yes
linuxwolfIt's more or less replaced by 6120
ralphmeh, obsoleting, hehe
linuxwolf+1 on deprecating and obsoleting
KevI should probably check 6120 before I vote on this, will do on list.
linuxwolfnotes
linuxwolfnoted even
stpeteras mentioned above, when the new RFCs were published we deprecated 192 and 193, but neglected to deprecate 190 and 237
linuxwolfTobias?
Tobiasyeah?
Tobias+1 on obsoleting
linuxwolfgrazie!
linuxwolfMattJ?
linuxwolfon list, or do you have a position now?
MattJI'm +1
linuxwolfgrazie
linuxwolf3.3) Obsolete 192
ralphm+1
linuxwolfagain, replaced by RFC 6120
Kev+1
linuxwolfI'm +1 also
MattJ+1
linuxwolfTobias: your vote?
Tobiasü1
Tobias+1
linuxwolf(-:
linuxwolf3.4) Obsolete 193
Kev+1
ralphm+1
linuxwolfyet again, replaced by RFC 6120
linuxwolf+1 also
MattJ+1
Tobias+1
linuxwolfok
linuxwolfand one last item ...
linuxwolfI finally put my vote on XEP-0045, so I believe it's good to be updated now
linuxwolfpublish 1.25 rather
ralphmnod
KevYep, saw that, thanks.
stpeteryay
linuxwolffinally
stpeteris too tired to cheer enthusiastically :)
ralphmFor next time, maybe we should discuss if we want to do something about the lenght of XEP-0060 (and maybe other specs)
linuxwolflet's try not to let that happen again (-:
KevYou're not alone. I'm hoping to be human again tomorrow.
ralphmthis came up at FOSDEM
linuxwolfalthough I'm afraid there's a large backlog for 60
stpeterralphm: right
linuxwolf/nod
stpeterI think we could move lots of the management stuff to separate specs for both 45 and 60
ralphmright
ralphmSo I'd like to put that on the agenda
ralphmfor next week or so
linuxwolfnoted in minutes
Kevralphm: Put what on the agenda, particularly?
ralphmKev: the discussion on that
KevJust a discussion, ok.
linuxwolf4) DateTime of next meeting
linuxwolfunless there was more AOB?
linuxwolfit didn't read like it, though
KevAOB: Thanks linuxwolf for chairing in my lateness.
KevDateTime: +1week.
linuxwolf(-:
stpeterI'll bring up more AOB stuff next week
linuxwolfworks for me
MattJ+1
Tobiaswfm
linuxwolfso next meeting 2012-02-15T16:00Z
ralphmstpeter: if you have agenda points, that's not quite AOB :-D
linuxwolfI think you all need to recover first
linuxwolfand we're at the bell now
ralphmright
KevRight.
linuxwolfif nothing crucial ...
KevNot here.
stpeterralphm: right, agenda items
ralphmlinuxwolf: bang it
linuxwolfbangs gavel
Tobiasso are we done?
Tobiasyay
linuxwolf(-:
KevThanks all, thanks linuxwolf.
ralphmthanks all!
linuxwolfno problem
stpeterMattJ and Kev: would you like to review my updates to XEP-0300 before I push it out?
Tobiasthx
linuxwolfI'll have the notes out after I get through my meetings
Kevlinuxwolf: Are you ok with sending out minutes?
KevGreat, thanks.
linuxwolfwhich I'm already late for!
Kevstpeter: Happy to do so, but don't think it's necessary. I'll shout if I object to them :)
stpeterok! :)
Tobiascya
MattJstpeter, sure
MattJstpeter, btw, when you get around to XEP-0060... I have a bit of feedback I've been collecting, and probably will have more as I flesh out the pubsub support in Prosody
stpeterMattJ: I have a lot of feedback to incorporate :)
stpeterMattJ: we didn't discuss "other uses of message forwarding" in Brussels, but it seems to me that http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0297.html might be ready for a last call (will ask for agenda time next week)
MattJSure
ralphmMattJ: could you send that to the pubsub ml?
MattJSure
Tobiashas joined
stpeterprocesses various summit and council related items