XMPP Council - 2012-03-21

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  16. linuxwolf we are meeting today, yes?
  17. Kev Yes, in one hour.
  18. MattJ Hi + Bye, and not HyBi
  19. Kev Although we've nothing to discuss, I think.
  20. linuxwolf grumbles some more about DST
  21. Kev Although I heard some rumours that MattJ was going to submit MAM today ...
  22. linuxwolf just in time to not be read (-:
  23. MattJ You never can tell with rumours
  24. Kev I'm listening to Rumours at the moment. Fantastic album.
  25. MattJ +1
  26. Kev turns Songbird up.
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  28. linuxwolf now I want a peach
  29. linuxwolf but it's not the right season … /sigh
  30. stpeter Rumours? A bit too much of 70s over produced pop in my opinion, but perhaps I heard it all too many times on the radio back in my youth :P
  31. MattJ Probably
  32. linuxwolf hmm … how objectionable would it be for "message forwarding" to be "stanza forwarding" ?
  33. linuxwolf wants to use it for e2e
  34. MattJ Not objectionable
  35. Kev I don't see why that's a problem.
  36. Kev It'll need careful handling to not break iq rules if you want to use it for iqs, but hey ho.
  37. linuxwolf sure
  38. linuxwolf but if you're, say, encryping an <iq/>, it would be nice to have a container
  39. linuxwolf the (non-normative) schema allows for it, but the (normative) text doesn't say you can
  40. linuxwolf doesn't say you can't, but the implications are all in the title d-:
  41. Kev My colour scheme and one of my plugins don't seem to be working for my vim on Windows :(
  42. Kev I've fallen in love with the ctrlp plugin, I don't want to do without it now.
  43. MattJ There's a lot more than the title to change
  44. linuxwolf yeah
  45. MattJ If you're convinced you want it, I'll work on it
  46. linuxwolf http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-miller-xmpp-e2e-00
  47. linuxwolf I'm convinced
  48. MattJ I was about to ask for an example :)
  49. linuxwolf (-:
  50. linuxwolf hrm
  51. linuxwolf I never got around to "Example Securing an IQ"
  52. linuxwolf let me know if you need help with text .. and I'll try to get to in two weeks (-"
  53. MattJ Fixed in my working copy
  54. linuxwolf s/message/stanza?
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  56. MattJ Yes, mostly
  57. Tobias Kev, you use Songbird for your music?
  58. Kev No.
  59. Kev Songbird is a track off Rumours, by Fleetwood Mac.
  60. Tobias ahhh :)
  61. Tobias then i've just misread it
  62. stpeter heh
  63. Tobias stpeter, any news on my mailing issue?
  64. stpeter I tried Songbird ages ago, even met with the team in SF to convince them to do some social music stuff using XMPP
  65. stpeter Tobias: can you please try to send a test message and I will see what happens?
  66. Tobias is using Clementine for music since a couple weeks
  67. Tobias sure
  68. Tobias stpeter, done
  69. Kev I use iTunes, which does the job mostly, but lacks one thing that I really want (and which I get via Alfred) - random album.
  70. Tobias switched to Clementine for FLAC support but it has other nicies too...although it could improve in the podcast area
  71. linuxwolf music is overrated
  72. stpeter Tobias: I think I found the problem
  73. stpeter Tobias: please try again
  74. Tobias stpeter, done
  75. stpeter Tobias: you are subscribed as tmarkmann@gmail.com but you were sending as tmarkmann@googlemail.com -- I have added the latter address to the "always allow" list
  76. Tobias this works
  77. stpeter "Another Test Message" received
  78. Tobias doesn't the @gmail.com doesn't land in some kind of moderation queue?
  79. linuxwolf also received here
  80. Tobias -doesn't :)
  81. stpeter Tobias: if you would like to volunteer to be a list admin, we can enable moderation queues for non-subscribed entities :)
  82. Tobias no thanks :)
  83. stpeter ok then :)
  84. stpeter Tobias: I've noted your +1 on XEP-0172, will update that now
  85. Tobias thx
  86. stpeter no, thank you!
  87. stpeter creates a quick post about GSoC while he's at it
  88. Tobias just hung up a couple of GSoC flyers at university
  89. stpeter nice
  90. stpeter heh, that <interim/> flag does the job, I just need to remember to remove it when a XEP version is approved ;-)
  91. Tobias :)
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  93. linuxwolf (-:
  94. stpeter http://xmpp.org/2012/03/another-summer-of-code/
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  96. linuxwolf T - 5
  97. Kev Yes!
  98. Kev stpeter: Thanks.
  99. linuxwolf puts down the slides
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  101. Kev Righty.
  102. Kev Ralph poked, although the purpose is limited.
  103. Kev 1) Roll call
  104. Kev I'm here.
  105. linuxwolf presente
  106. Tobias here
  107. Kev MattJ: Yoohoo
  108. stpeter :)
  109. linuxwolf ETIMEOUT
  110. Kev Gragh, what did I set the PIN to on these silly smartcards?
  111. stpeter heh
  112. MattJ Present
  113. Kev Ah, that, obviously.
  114. linuxwolf moving on?
  115. Kev 2) Date of next meeting
  116. Kev 1500GMT next week?
  117. linuxwolf next week might be difficult next week
  118. linuxwolf gah
  119. Kev Right.
  120. Kev 1500GMT the week after?
  121. linuxwolf that should work
  122. MattJ wfm
  123. Kev I think everyone should be on DST by then.
  124. Tobias fine with me
  125. stpeter I have jury duty on Wednesday, April 4
  126. stpeter so I won't be here
  127. Kev Ok.
  128. stpeter but do proceed without me
  129. stpeter sending my regrets ahead of time :)
  130. linuxwolf Life after IESG™
  131. stpeter heh
  132. stpeter starting off with a bang, too
  133. stpeter not that I'll ever get chosen to serve on a jury ;-)
  134. Kev 3) Any other business.
  135. linuxwolf none from me
  136. stpeter not here
  137. Tobias neither here
  138. Kev JFYI, I'm working on updates to FMUC.
  139. Zash mumbles something about a stick with "MAM" written on it
  140. linuxwolf now that I've made my fwd suggestions (-:
  141. Kev Ok, I think we're done then.
  142. Kev Thanks all!
  143. Tobias Kev, which one of them?
  144. stpeter :)
  145. Kev bangs the five-minute gavel.
  146. Kev Tobias: Which one?
  147. Kev There's only one FMUC :)
  148. Tobias they all seem so alike
  149. linuxwolf one is FMUC, and the others are DMUC-*
  150. Tobias ahh
  151. linuxwolf otherwise, yeah, lots of similarities (-:
  152. stpeter is looking forward to an updated FMUC spec at some point
  153. Kev I was reviewing Curtis's code the other day. It's possible to implement FMUC in surprisingly little code.
  154. Kev At least in M-Link.
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  158. ralphm hi bye
  159. linuxwolf not spdy enough
  160. Kev No, that's a different working group.
  161. stpeter heh
  162. Zash SCTP, nevar forget!
  163. linuxwolf BEEP!
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