XMPP Council - 2012-03-21

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  16. linuxwolf

    we are meeting today, yes?

  17. Kev

    Yes, in one hour.

  18. MattJ

    Hi + Bye, and not HyBi

  19. Kev

    Although we've nothing to discuss, I think.

  20. linuxwolf grumbles some more about DST

  21. Kev

    Although I heard some rumours that MattJ was going to submit MAM today ...

  22. linuxwolf

    just in time to not be read (-:

  23. MattJ

    You never can tell with rumours

  24. Kev

    I'm listening to Rumours at the moment. Fantastic album.

  25. MattJ


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  28. linuxwolf

    now I want a peach

  29. linuxwolf

    but it's not the right season … /sigh

  30. stpeter

    Rumours? A bit too much of 70s over produced pop in my opinion, but perhaps I heard it all too many times on the radio back in my youth :P

  31. MattJ


  32. linuxwolf

    hmm … how objectionable would it be for "message forwarding" to be "stanza forwarding" ?

  33. linuxwolf wants to use it for e2e

  34. MattJ

    Not objectionable

  35. Kev

    I don't see why that's a problem.

  36. Kev

    It'll need careful handling to not break iq rules if you want to use it for iqs, but hey ho.

  37. linuxwolf


  38. linuxwolf

    but if you're, say, encryping an <iq/>, it would be nice to have a container

  39. linuxwolf

    the (non-normative) schema allows for it, but the (normative) text doesn't say you can

  40. linuxwolf

    doesn't say you can't, but the implications are all in the title d-:

  41. Kev

    My colour scheme and one of my plugins don't seem to be working for my vim on Windows :(

  42. Kev

    I've fallen in love with the ctrlp plugin, I don't want to do without it now.

  43. MattJ

    There's a lot more than the title to change

  44. linuxwolf


  45. MattJ

    If you're convinced you want it, I'll work on it

  46. linuxwolf


  47. linuxwolf

    I'm convinced

  48. MattJ

    I was about to ask for an example :)

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  51. linuxwolf

    I never got around to "Example Securing an IQ"

  52. linuxwolf

    let me know if you need help with text .. and I'll try to get to in two weeks (-"

  53. MattJ

    Fixed in my working copy

  54. linuxwolf


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  56. MattJ

    Yes, mostly

  57. Tobias

    Kev, you use Songbird for your music?

  58. Kev


  59. Kev

    Songbird is a track off Rumours, by Fleetwood Mac.

  60. Tobias

    ahhh :)

  61. Tobias

    then i've just misread it

  62. stpeter


  63. Tobias

    stpeter, any news on my mailing issue?

  64. stpeter

    I tried Songbird ages ago, even met with the team in SF to convince them to do some social music stuff using XMPP

  65. stpeter

    Tobias: can you please try to send a test message and I will see what happens?

  66. Tobias is using Clementine for music since a couple weeks

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  68. Tobias

    stpeter, done

  69. Kev

    I use iTunes, which does the job mostly, but lacks one thing that I really want (and which I get via Alfred) - random album.

  70. Tobias

    switched to Clementine for FLAC support but it has other nicies too...although it could improve in the podcast area

  71. linuxwolf

    music is overrated

  72. stpeter

    Tobias: I think I found the problem

  73. stpeter

    Tobias: please try again

  74. Tobias

    stpeter, done

  75. stpeter

    Tobias: you are subscribed as tmarkmann@gmail.com but you were sending as tmarkmann@googlemail.com -- I have added the latter address to the "always allow" list

  76. Tobias

    this works

  77. stpeter

    "Another Test Message" received

  78. Tobias

    doesn't the @gmail.com doesn't land in some kind of moderation queue?

  79. linuxwolf

    also received here

  80. Tobias

    -doesn't :)

  81. stpeter

    Tobias: if you would like to volunteer to be a list admin, we can enable moderation queues for non-subscribed entities :)

  82. Tobias

    no thanks :)

  83. stpeter

    ok then :)

  84. stpeter

    Tobias: I've noted your +1 on XEP-0172, will update that now

  85. Tobias


  86. stpeter

    no, thank you!

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  88. Tobias just hung up a couple of GSoC flyers at university

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  90. stpeter

    heh, that <interim/> flag does the job, I just need to remember to remove it when a XEP version is approved ;-)

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  96. linuxwolf

    T - 5

  97. Kev


  98. Kev

    stpeter: Thanks.

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  102. Kev

    Ralph poked, although the purpose is limited.

  103. Kev

    1) Roll call

  104. Kev

    I'm here.

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  107. Kev

    MattJ: Yoohoo

  108. stpeter


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  110. Kev

    Gragh, what did I set the PIN to on these silly smartcards?

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  113. Kev

    Ah, that, obviously.

  114. linuxwolf

    moving on?

  115. Kev

    2) Date of next meeting

  116. Kev

    1500GMT next week?

  117. linuxwolf

    next week might be difficult next week

  118. linuxwolf


  119. Kev


  120. Kev

    1500GMT the week after?

  121. linuxwolf

    that should work

  122. MattJ


  123. Kev

    I think everyone should be on DST by then.

  124. Tobias

    fine with me

  125. stpeter

    I have jury duty on Wednesday, April 4

  126. stpeter

    so I won't be here

  127. Kev


  128. stpeter

    but do proceed without me

  129. stpeter

    sending my regrets ahead of time :)

  130. linuxwolf

    Life after IESG™

  131. stpeter


  132. stpeter

    starting off with a bang, too

  133. stpeter

    not that I'll ever get chosen to serve on a jury ;-)

  134. Kev

    3) Any other business.

  135. linuxwolf

    none from me

  136. stpeter

    not here

  137. Tobias

    neither here

  138. Kev

    JFYI, I'm working on updates to FMUC.

  139. Zash mumbles something about a stick with "MAM" written on it

  140. linuxwolf

    now that I've made my fwd suggestions (-:

  141. Kev

    Ok, I think we're done then.

  142. Kev

    Thanks all!

  143. Tobias

    Kev, which one of them?

  144. stpeter


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  146. Kev

    Tobias: Which one?

  147. Kev

    There's only one FMUC :)

  148. Tobias

    they all seem so alike

  149. linuxwolf

    one is FMUC, and the others are DMUC-*

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  151. linuxwolf

    otherwise, yeah, lots of similarities (-:

  152. stpeter is looking forward to an updated FMUC spec at some point

  153. Kev

    I was reviewing Curtis's code the other day. It's possible to implement FMUC in surprisingly little code.

  154. Kev

    At least in M-Link.

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  158. ralphm

    hi bye

  159. linuxwolf

    not spdy enough

  160. Kev

    No, that's a different working group.

  161. stpeter


  162. Zash

    SCTP, nevar forget!

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